jenfly00

Hell I am thinking they have done litte to really stop that sort of thing.. perhaps so an attack CAN occur.. then they can declare MARTIAL LAW... like they have been planning to do for a while... ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY not just in the place where it will occur.... that gets rid of silly little details like the Bill of Rights that they have fought so hard against since January of 2000 When people rate Lincoln and Roosevelt as great presidents, civil liberties are not mentioned. Wilson, a champion of womens rights was probably worse in civil liberties. All three served in time of war. You only have to read history to compare how President Bush is doing compared to other presidents. I believe the majority of Americans think he is doing fine. A majority of Americans (87%) believe wishes come true. Fifty-five percent believe they will not come true if they tell someone about it. Your point? http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4188/is_20051016/ai_n15711160 ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

I don't believe simple to be causative of stupid ...but, you know, they seem to hang out together quite a bit. It's your god given right to be simple and/or stupid. It's your views and comments about being the tip of the spear shaping the interpretation of the constitution. It does seem you are markedly myopic about being willing to destroy your house (allegorically speaking) to combat those who oppose it. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

I feel all warm and fuzzy knowing there are right minded people like you out there enforcing the law. Out of curiosity, what fascinating and rewarding career path did you abandon to become a cop? ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

There will aways be those, in a world of uncertainty, who lack the strength to stand on their own. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Wow! I agree with you!! It's not sacrificing liberty for safety. It's sacrificing liberty for the appearance of safety. Yeah, well, the problem with common sense is it ain't all that common ...apparently. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

I've seen nothing in your consistent and prolific posts to warrant calling you a bleeding-heart pacifist. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

In mental health settings, it's recommended that at least three trained individuals are required to safely contain and restrain someone out of control. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

I agree. I must also add that this is an extremely sad case for everyone involved and does nothing to help the image of the police. Also, my nephew is a police officer in the Kansas City area so I am not at all against the police but do frown on those who abuse the power entrusted to them. They are suppose to be professional and should conduct themselves in that manner. Not like a gunslinging sheriff of the wild west. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1967136;search_string=police;#1967136 "Come on, everybody knows that since 911 all cops have been given a get out of jail free card so they can be the biggest asshats out there! Just ask jenfly00....." -Rushmc ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

I seriously doubt this. Cite please. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

What's your point? That people shouldn't form opinions about matters, unless they have first hand knowledge? First hand? No. Knowledge, yes. I'll wait for more information. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

There are any number of minorities who run around with a chip on their shoulder, and look for opportunities to get it knocked off. If you can't see that, then you are wearing rose colored glasses. I'm looking, and what I see is any number of facist neo-cons who use any weak excuse they can come up with to further justify their one-flag, one religion, one sexual orientation, one race, no Bill of Rights America. If you can't see that ... ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

What do you do? Send them a postcard from time to time? That's messed up. Playstation2 has a much larger number of games. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Howdy girlfriend! ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Bull crap. My dad was an eigth grade drop out in rural KY. After WW2 he got his GED, then college degree. He was home builder. he was home most of the time. I too put myself through college, working 2-3 sometimes 4 jobs. I was home more than the average dad. Coached all the kids sports and took them camping, skiing, etc. I taught them you can make something of your life without others giving it to you. I'm just talking about time. You say you had 3-4 jobs and plenty of time for your kids. I'm saying that is not possible. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Which would you prefer: 1. Support your family even though you don't get as much quality time with them. 2. Live on assistance from the Gov, but have plenty of time for your family? I choose #1. By showing children that you have to be responsible and productive you are doing more for them than letting them think that it is OK for the Gov to take care of you. . Bingo! Just what my dad taught me. Ahh, the cycle of emotional abandonment of children continues? ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Somehow I can envision your toliet training ...sitting at the business end of an assault rifle, with Mom saying, "you will make dooty now, boy!" Lighten up Francis. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Under arrest ...no. In police custody ...definitely! If you are not free to leave, you are in police custody. What do you think would happen if the officer said she was going to write you a ticket and you said, "OK, I'm gonna go now" and start to drive off? ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

What about the women who posted it is objectionable? ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

This is my understanding: Whenever an officer stops you, whether for a traffic infraction or whatever, at that point, you are technically under some measure of arrest and you have to do what they say, or else, you're obstructing their ability to do their job. Once the officer determines there is nothing more to do, you're released from that custody. The kid, if he had any idea how to maintain composure, could have said, "officer, I'm cooperating, do you really need to physically escort me out of the lab?" The fact that the officer felt the need to "handle" him probably means the kid started spouting off at the hole beneath his nose from the get-go. Can cops be dicks...hell-f**king-yeah! But if you cover your side of the street and show basic respect, you won't have a problem, even with the asshats. And here I thought that fully complying with the requests of the officer would be sufficient to avoid being tasered ...go figure. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

The constitution we once loved and cherished, doesn't really exist anymore. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

No, but I once watch two rhinos mate at Metro Zoo ....AMAZING!!! Think two gargabe trucks trying to slam eachother to death. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

You redefine my statement, make it a personal attack and take offense ...not my problem. Politically, you support those who have moved our country a couple of giant steps toward fascism. Dude, I don't know you from Adam. I do, however, greatly resent those who have harmed my country ...and those that support them. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Hopefully, your nazi-boys will no longer be able to wipe their asses with the U.S. Constitution. Anything beyond that is gravy. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

That's what they used to say in the old USSR. Saying their isn't a bias in the media, particularly "false but accurate" CBS, NPR and CNN, is likie saying their is no bias among college professors, especially those in the Humanities. Any reasonable person (find one and ask her ) knows there is a bias with all media outlets. It's an economic bias. They tailor their products for what they think will sell. It's pretty much that simple, dude. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Irony score 10.0 On a scale of 1 to 8! Progress will not be seen on NBC, CBS, ABC, NCC, NPR, PMSNBC ect ect ect. Why? they have opinion to slant and an election to affect so, I choose to loose other places and read and I have come to another conclusion. I am told constantly by "progessives" they my ideas, thoughts and opinions are handed to me by others because I can't possibly think for myself because, lets be honest, no inteligent educated engaged opinion could be contrary to all knowing left libs. And I am told the right is the intolerant among us Not quite. I think you have your own ideas and opinions ...and just pay attention to those sources that reinforce them. You back the guys who wipe their asses with the U. S. Constitution, and listen to the news sources that make that sound like a good idea. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".