jenfly00

With the change above, the same could be said for you... Here ya go: http://reality.edu/ ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Could you provide a link. On this issue, the link you need is to reality. In other words - you got nothing. Ditch the dogma and people will (eventually) overlook your rigid, straight line support of a president who defiles his country. It's much like you continue to rant that the earth is flat, then feign a triumphant laugh when others do not respond to your disconnect from reality as if you had said something remotely reasonable. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Could you provide a link. On this issue, the link you need is to reality. Really? Let me refresh your memory of reality... I suspect if your right wing ideology was turned to religion, you would be speaking in tongues and spontaneously bleeding from your hands and feet. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

For those with a history of defending Dubya wiping his ass on the Bill of Rights, their continued oblique defense of Foley probably seems quite reasonable to them. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Could you provide a link. On this issue, the link you need is to reality. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Getting certification in another state can be a PITA. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

It is absolutely amazing that you don't realize you've done exactly what you're complaining about now. What is amazing is the number of uber rights who have been driven by political ideology (or perhaps, more personal demons) to defend (albiet obliquely) a man who's sexual prey is children!!! At this point, just about any reasonable man would re-examine where they have arrived and who they are. Lesser men will search for, and find, rationalization. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

That's some GOOD candor. you betcha wonder if there's any parallels in today's world.... You betcha. They're politicians ...all of them. A big difference is the current social climate. Relative to the 70's and 80's we, as a society, tolerate less deviation from the accepted norms. So, less tolerance of deviation from the norms and norms that are much more conservative. In this instance, it's pretty much a case of Republicans reeping what they sowed. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Just quoting a very wise woman. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Wait til she gets going! (that was a great movie, btw) Is this a kissing book? ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

I live here and my children go to an extremely left winged school. Yes you may be if you are putting all texas schools in that catagory and blindly stating the above. Blindly? My comments were based on a wealth of news reports and law suits on the actions of the Texas school board. I'm curious as to your definition of "extremely left winged school". They certainly aren't reading left wing text books in the state of Texas where the school board banned a text book because it had pictures of a woman in a business suit, carrying a briefcase because it was contrary to "the traditional conservative values of the state of Texas". ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

When talking about a culture, one must refer to the characteristics of the culture, not each individual in it. Put another way, what is statistically true for a given population is not necessarily true for any individual within that population. Another way to say it might be: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1542646;search_string=it%27s%20not%20about%20you;#1542646

Like I said, keep em believing they will kill you, your family and your dog, and they keep voting Republican. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Much ado about nothing. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Once again ...IT'S TEXAS! Book banning, book burning, right wing, bible thumping, jesus loving TEXAS! Prejudicial? Perhaps, but if a wager were proposed, it's where the smart money goes. http://wrt-howard.syr.edu/stepaside/archives/2005/04/wills_case_agai.html http://www.wacotrib.com/opin/content/shared/news/nation/stories/2006/02/YOUNG_COLUMN_0203_COX.html http://www.tfn.org/publiceducation/textbooks/timeline/index.php http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2003/11/05/textbooks/index_np.html The rest of the nation that might actually value learning and (gasp!) thinking have a hard time getting good textbooks because they have to be passed by the lowest common denominator of ...TEXAS. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

It's Texas. What do you expect? ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Neocon can and does mean many things. For some, it describes former liberals new to conservative politics. Others use it as a way to distinguish the ultra conservative from those more moderately conservative. For me, it is those that have lost track of what America stands for. Either their ideology or lust for power and profit have obfuscated the principles of freedom and liberty that made this country like no other. Perhaps they sincerely believe essential freedoms and liberty must be abridged (temporarily???) in order for us, as a people, to survive. Perhaps they just don't give two shits as long as it serves their purposes. As far as history showing governments using fear to control it's citizens and increase govt powers over those citizens ...dude, I don't know what to say. Have you ever taken any sort of history class? ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

The 'left' not having their shit together (they don't) has nothing to do with what any clear headed observer can see the neo-cons doing ..selling fear and raking in the votes. The message always boils down to 'Terrorists will kill you, your family, your dog and destroy our country if you do not vote for us'. Historically proven to be very effective. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

A most thoughtful reply. Thank you. I take exception with: Feeding and maintaining fear is what Republican victory is all about. It's really not so much an issue as the issue for the Reps. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

It's not just a matter of the alti being a snag point. If you have lines around your wrist/hand, the alti presents a lump that could easily prevent you from freeing your hand. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Some people who wrap their lives around their god/religion have, indeed, substituted god for their substance of choice. Whatever the origin of the addictive personality, it's a smoother path for them to be hooked on ...something, than see the possibility of the scary uncertainty to be in control of their lives. Some are addicts (not "in some way") but addicts in the full sense of the word. Others of faith? Early indoctrination? Societal reward? Community pressures? Personal decisions based on their own values? I have no idea, for these are not the people of faith I was referring to. Guess what... ready for a shocker? I agree with you! Be still, my fluttering heart!

Some people who wrap their lives around their god/religion have, indeed, substituted god for their substance of choice. Whatever the origin of the addictive personality, it's a smoother path for them to be hooked on ...something, than see the possibility of the scary uncertainty to be in control of their lives. Some are addicts (not "in some way") but addicts in the full sense of the word. Others of faith? Early indoctrination? Societal reward? Community pressures? Personal decisions based on their own values? I have no idea, for these are not the people of faith I was referring to. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Jeez, girl. By all means disagree with me, but when you change what I wrote and disagree with your own interpretation ...a bit strange, eh what? ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Excellent!! It's nice to read a response that isn't guided by a narrow moralistic view, a one size fits all diagnostic/therapeutic viewpoint or one driven by the responder's own addiction (to substances, behaviors, or deities). ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Perhaps, "medically": but understanding it is an important, almost crucial part of drug education and psychological/social intervention. I'll admit the "permanent fuck-your-brain-up psychosis." comment was a bit overdramatic (I blame the dramatization on PMS), to prove a point. It stems from another popular theory that I am not getting into, as it is not relevant and will probably be anbother 10 pages of debate wasting my time. Also, in reply to Yep. In fact good research often asks more questions than it answers and spawns more studies. Critically analyzing research is different than dismissing it completely when it concludes something you disagree with (ie "NO physical withdrawal or addiction to MJ"). Good critical analysis involves looking at several studies from both sides and how they were conducted to draw your own conclusions. All I have seen with you is a complete dismissal of any study I talk about, and nothing to add. ================================================ Like ...wow! I hope that rationalization has high tensile strength. OK, you're right. Since you insist on holding on to the validity (minus the convenient omission of your PMS induced, and perfectly acceptable dramatization, of course ) of your claim, there is physical withdrawal from MJ ...pretty much like sea level does rise every time someone gets in the water. I dismissed your cites as BS cause they were ...well, BS for any meaningful application. Crucial and medically insignificant ...go figure. Then you must believe people living near sea level should start evacuating their homes every tourist season at the beach. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".