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Everything posted by gowlerk
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Yeah, good luck with that. But in the spirit of it I can say that my favourite faith based organization is the Mennonite Central Committee. Known for good work all over the world.
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Biden-Trump In a speech the other day Biden gave a shout out to Trump over vaccine efforts. “Thanks to the prior administration and our scientific community, America was one of the first countries to get the vaccine,” Biden had said. Trump has expressed both surprise and appreciation for this on FOX. I'm sure that something like that is probably hard for a man like Trump to process. More than likely he will quickly see it as a sign of weakness in Biden. Biden also expressed thanks to Trump for getting a booster and speaking positively about it. https://nypost.com/2021/12/21/trump-very-appreciative-of-bidens-praise-for-operation-warp-speed/
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The next thing you know there will be a religious test for success in US politics. It may even get so bad that you will no longer have to at least claim to be Christian, and god forbid atheists may become acceptable. Who knows, maybe even the SCOTUS might one day have one. The poor Christians are just so persecuted, no wonder they feel powerless.
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I guess your tolerance and curiosity are both stronger than mine. I did not even consider clicking on it.
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I wonder how much of his day is spent thinking about it?
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Almost everything he posts can be looked at as a joke. A joke on him.
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Indeed. I'm not real sure why Coreece attacked your credibility. I can only assume that he has lumped you into a group that is "liberal" without really reading and considering your posting history. He is often very defensive about the subject of religion and seems to feel it is somehow endangered unfairly whenever any aspect of it is challenged. And now even when it gets any positive mention as well.
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Could we please have a thread on the wonderful charity works done by members of non Christian religions worldwide? Of course we could. But it would be meaningless because religious doctrine and charity have nothing to do with each other. They are merely different aspects of human behavior.
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Exactly, but no more right than any other religion. And they are far from the most annoying group. However they are the largest group in our corner of the world. I actually believe that eventually Islam will overcome that. Unfortunate as that is.
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Correct. Not only that but the Christian right is not monolithic. The really base of people calling for this are not doing primarily because the want more Christ in society. They are doing it because they are white nationalists. They fear losing the control that they believe is the source of all things good. They are a large part of the GoP, and they have outsize influence because they vote in primaries, but they are not as strong as they appear.
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Paying too much attention to this overstates the strength of this movement. It needs watching and we need to be aware for sure. It is more than a fringe group but less than a serious threat. For now.
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I agree. But the point is that there are powerful forces who want this to happen. Not only is it clearly against the constitution, it won't happen because any serious attempt to make it happen would result in whatever level of conflict is needed to stop it from happening.
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This is another example of bad behavior by a dominant religion within a society. It would seem that this kind of thing has been done over and over again by Christians, Hindus, Muslims, Jews and whoever against whatever tribe is smaller and less powerful. It has nothing to do with theology and everything to do with tribal power.
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Yes, it is a culture. And it is a culture that has a very long and successful tradition of suppressing by whatever means it can find any competing cultures. Liberals and atheists like Christians are not a monolithic culture. Believe it or not, there are liberal Christians. And conservative atheists. I know this for certain. I have already stated the way I believe all theologies should be treated and how I treat them. I can not answer for others. But I can state that Christians have very little to complain about in western society. The overall treatment they receive as a group is far better than how they treat others. I may note that their beliefs are ridiculous when asked, but I don't really care about those. I care about their actions. There is a movement within some US evangelical churches to make the USA a one religion state. What do you have to say about that?
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The reason it sounds too good to be true is that the headline is completely debunked within the article itself.
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No, it demonstrates that no one can do much except in their own backyard.
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All religious doctrines are ridiculous when you look at them logically. You may have a hard time accepting that. Christianity, Islam, Scientology, Mormonism, Buddhism, or what have you. They all require a belief in magic. That is why they get ridiculed. More to the point, they not only require a belief in magic they also demand that you believe that the others magic is ridiculous. Complaining about suppression of the religion you believe in while denying the legitimacy of a different belief is pretty much the height of hypocrisy. If you are someone who complains that Christians are mistreated but at the same time have no problem with the way Scientologists are treated I have very little to discuss with you.
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Yet that veteran of the Soviet system currently in power and trying to restore the glory of the empire is among the most ardent supporters of the orthodox church. The reality is that organized religions are about organization and power. Doctrine is just a tool.
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Many. I have a brother who announced to me a couple years ago that he had become Christian. He assumed I would give him a hard time about it. But I simply told him that everyone has to believe something and the only way it would matter to me is is he tried to convince me to convert. Personally I do not approve of atheists who feel a need to ridicule others beliefs just because they are ridiculous. It is pointless and harmful. The problems caused by various religions is not the fantastical doctrines that they all have. It is their tribal behaviors towards others. As mean as atheists can sometimes be their behavior always involves words, not weapons. I suppose a notable exception may be the violent suppression of religion by various secular communist regimes. That was a class power struggle against the power misused by the church for centuries.
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It is okay to hate that there are people who wish to impose there beliefs upon others. No matter what their colour or religion. It is also okay to explain your own beliefs to them as it is for them to try to convert you to theirs. Is it okay for someone to tell my children that their parents are going to be sent to hell to be tortured for eternity? Is it okay to protest outside of a funeral for a war casualty because god hates fags? Asking for a friend.
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It Is Engineers, Not Politicians, Who Can solve Climate Change
gowlerk replied to Phil1111's topic in Speakers Corner
The fence is there mostly because they charge admission to spectators. It makes bad spotting and landing out a bit of a pain sometimes. -
It Is Engineers, Not Politicians, Who Can solve Climate Change
gowlerk replied to Phil1111's topic in Speakers Corner
We have a 6800 ft. runway. Right beside it is what used to be a parallel runway that is now a .......dragstrip. A real dragstrip that sometimes has AA fuelers. But we used the runway because the dragstrip has a fence. -
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/12/20/sarah-palin-anti-vax-tpusa-tconference/ I know it's wrong to be smug about this. I'm trying not to. But Palin’s talk of dead bodies is on point. By discouraging vaccination, she and Tucker Carlson and the rest of the anti-science right are quite literally getting people killed. Studies show that those living in the most pro-Trump counties in the United States are dying from covid-19 at a rate more than five times higher than in the most anti-Trump counties.
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It Is Engineers, Not Politicians, Who Can solve Climate Change
gowlerk replied to Phil1111's topic in Speakers Corner
Drag racing 1000cc street bikes down the runway after dark with a bit of a glow on is always fun. -
And one thing I know for sure, you'll be dead before your time is due.