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Can this truly be? We now have Snow in a defense pact with Jo? Soon I will awake from this dream. Jo, get it in writing quickly, before Snow comes to his senses. Jo has toned down. Not certain if I can pinpoint the cause. It does coincide with Jerry and Shelly's warnings, but who knows? "Court" here is like "nuke" iwth Iran or N Korea. Often threatened, never launched. It does scare people though. Everyone knows Snow won't use a gun, but the threat of "court" seems plausible. Real court is so different from TV court. The litigants in real court too often become the indentured slaves of the greedy lawyers. Twenty page motions pulled right out of law library CDs somehow end up costing five figures. It is beyond absurd. TV court is better. There the good guy always wins. In real court the lawyers always win, both $ide$. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Jerry, You really know how to fight fire with sugar. No wonder you have stayed married so long! 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

If my IQ is below 30 surely that qualifies me for some stimulus or bailout money. Bring it on! As for the Patriot Act, read it sometime. Might as well drop of your house keys at the police station so they don't break your front door down when they feel like making a warrantless search. The framers of our Constitution would be aghast. I want one of those WMD analyst jobs. I could program a word processor to issue reports that capture the spirit of that pathetic interview. As for the FBI, they had a podium here and could prevent "misbranding." It is still unoccupied waiting for them to return. I want more hardware talk, NB6, NB8, C9, radar plots, transponder codes, SAGE, F 106s, T 33s, TTY transcripts... something tangible I can sink my teeth into. Been thinking more about whether Cooper could be prosecuted. The FBI must be pretty certain he could be or they'd just let the sleeping dog lie. I really wonder what ace they are holding that renders any lost or mishandled evidence irrelevant? 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Sub, Were you reading Snows repellant posts "for over a year" under a different name? Your current one has only been registered a few days. I like Snow because of the sometimes truly amazing information he brings to the forum. I have long theorized that he is friends with Sergey Brin and has access to special Google tools we cant use. I have learned to live with the sardonic, confrontational and sarcastic stuff, it really doesnt bother me at all. Maybe you could learn to take it the way I do and not be offended or repelled. Jerry has mastered the technique in a only few days. He is one of those sly fish who doesnt rise to the bait. Reconsider your departure Sub. We welcome newcomers, even those who have been lurking in silent pain or repulsion for more than a year. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

I am with you Snow, it is a hell of a mystery and fun to try and figure it out. I do think we might get lucky and solve it even if the FBI doesn't do much. It is a longshot but it's fun to dream about longshots. All the self confessed Coopers remind me of the problem that faces ballistic missile interception: ICBM launched decoys. They have many attributes of warheads. They drain resources often allowing (in simulations) the real MIRV warheads to hit the target. It just amazes me how many people confessed to being Cooper and have some Cooper attributes that dont let you rule them out immediately. A live Cooper could be prosecuted even with the missing cig butts IF the FBI had something else that unambiguously put him in the plane, like a solid fingerprint or something they havent talked about. If the FBI knew that there had been a spoliation of evidence fatal to an eventual prosecution, I doubt if they would have reopened the case in such a public manner. I bet they are holding something back. It would make sense. Ckret didnt get one bit flustered about the cig butts and it may be because he knows their loss is harmless error. It would be harmless if they get a suspect who matches something left on the plane that the FBI knows about, but we do not. On what basis did the FBI rule out Gossett? Whatever it was did not convince Galen Cook to abandon his theory. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Hiding information seems to have worked really well for Cooper. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

I prefer to think that Toms "clamps" are self imposed. The thought of the FBI muzzling science or any expression or publication really raises my blood pressure. There is no FBI bypass switch on the First Amendment, although the courts and Congress have just about given them one on the Fourth Amendment with the ironically named Patriot Act. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Although I have been jumping since 68 (still active) I know zero about CRW or high altitude openings so please forgive what may seem like ignorant questions. I want to do some ham radio long range communications from under canopy so I want a lot of time under canopy and a high antenna altitude. I weigh 214 and jump a Triathlon 210. I'd like to do a hop and pop from 18K. What do I need to know/learn etc to make it safe? Is O2 advisable if flying a canopy that high? Any special precautions/techniques on deploying that high? I jumped from 18K last weekend, no big deal, but it was a normal jump not a hop and pop. I have also done a couple of jumps from Mullins King Air at WFFC from about 23K. I figure the CRW dogs know all about this stuff so that's why I am posting here. Thanks for any help and advice. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

McCoy was a perfect Cooper. It would have been so easy for the FBI to close both cases on McCoy's death, but they didn't take the easy way out. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

McCoy was out standing in his field too, literally. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

says Snow. So what would it take Snow? The bending over might be too risky, especially since some of the FBI diversity program new hire SAs will misinterpret your naked backside avatar, but what is your price for worshiping the FBI? Would a Cooper twenty suffice? More you say? How about Carr making a night jump over the Washougal from the Perris DC 9 using an NB8 harness container and 28 ft C9 assembled and packed by Nitro, with an exit point selected by Jerry, would that turn you? Come on, asking Tina to come out of the convent, put on a stew uniform and light Carr's cigarettes is downright unreasonable. Have a heart. The girl has been through enough. 377 (edit) Snow just contacted me. He will drop Tina but the rig has to be a non extended NB6 with a 32 foot T 10 canopy. He also wants to push Larry out. 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Snow, Go to plan B, the one the Scientologists used to infiltrate the IRS. Get gorgeous women to apply for FBI file clerk jobs. They are always hired, trust me. Back in the late 60s I had a girlfriend who got a job at the FBI. She was not the best typist applicant but I am sure she was the best looking one. She would talk freely during evening about the wiretap tapes she had transcribed earlier that day. Fascinating stuff. So we hire a model or maybe even an aspiring pornstar. The FBI hires her and we resume the operation. If she flirts enough with Ckret, who knows what will develop? You in? 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

I have been trying to read up on cellulose digesting animals, but my lack of life sciences schooling is badly impairing my ability to understand what I read. Microorganisms can digest cellulose, but it is not localized in narrow bordered holes from what I can see. I seem to be finding that the bore holes we see in wood, money etc are made by more complex animals, often worms or the larvae of insects. Marine worms bore holes as they tunnel into and eat cellulose (wood) and so do many other animals. Certain marine worms will almost never cross hard grain boundaries and only tunnel along the grain eating the soft wood between the hard parts. The currency is fairly isotropic so we cant use that info to identify the animal. I'll bet there are specialists who could take one look at those money photos and narrow down the list of suspect boring animals to just a few if they knew the area. Who are they and how can we get them intererested? Tom is probably on this already but since he has entered the cone of silence on his work, we don't know for sure. Surely it wont compromise his paper to answer, so I will ask: Tom, do you have any help from specialists on analysing the holes? Ex wives eat money, but mine could never make holes that small with her mouth. Take her off the suspect list. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

I recall a saying about a lawyer who always acted like every detail of a case was hush hush super confidential. This lawyer spilled his guts to reporters who asked the same questions he rebuffed from his pals. One pal summed it up perfectly: "he has never seen a microphone or a camera that he didn't like." 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Snow, When you figure out how to eliminate Moire patterns in scanned images would you please design a chip to do that and put it in my HDTV? I know you actually could do that chip design if you cared to. Trust me on this one folks. Has Tom opined on the holes in the money? Were they made by aquatic beasties or their land cousins or can we tell? 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Gonna read your page later but I had to smile cos I can imagine one of your kids looking at skydiving in a decade or two and saying Oh, forget it. That is just 377's anti-authoritarian genes talking. He was a skydiver. One of the reasons he liked jumping was the lack of stupid rules and enforcers. Back then the USPA mainly licensed people and weren't an aviation enforcer of hundreds of BSRs. He'd ...... if he knew how overregulated things are now in his sport. I love the folks on this forum. Smart, funny and irreverant. My kind of people. Yes, even those who occasionally irritate me. I am sure I irritate them too so it all balances out. Skydiving really is one of the last bastions where we are in in highly regulated activity (aviation) yet somehow escape the massive financial and emotional burdens of federal regulation. The feds dictate a few things about my reserve, but that's about it. Everything else in jumping is amazingly free of regulatory BS. Without federal rules on reserves, riggers couldn't make a living. Having survived two cutaways, I deeply respect riggers. I literally owe my life to their care and skill. I look at them as parachute surgeons, they just get paid a lot less. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

What journal will Tom be publishing in? I'd like to see the flavor of already published papers. Why does anyone take don't talk or don't publish orders from the FBI? They can't order you to do anything other than: "step back folks, this is a crime scene, please move on now..." Oh, forget it. That is just my late Dad's anti-authoritarian genes talking. He was a commercial fisherman. One of the reasons he liked working at sea was the lack of stupid rules and police. Back then the Coast Guard mainly rescued people and weren't an aquatic SWAT team. He'd turn over in his grave (which is an illegal one at the Farallon Islands) if he knew how overregulated things are now in his trade. http://tiny.cc/Ge0oj 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

That eBay one looks Navy to me because of the way the chest connect webbing and snap is arranged, two V's on either side instead of a single straight across strap like the USAF rigs have. Nitro will know, I am just guessing. That eBay rig is touted as new. Did they come new in the box with those crude numbers put on the back with a felt marker? Nitro? That eBay rig is sure pricey. I sold an identical one for $150 a couple of years ago and was glad to get it. It was used in the Navy A3D Whales that Hughes Aircraft had borrowed for radar tests and never returned. They got rid of bailout chutes when they reached a certain age regardless of condition. The Navy A3D ("all three dead") had no ejection seats, just a single tunnel slide out the bottom. Can you imagine trying to escape from a spinning plane that way? Hence the nickname. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Naah. You are too quick to assign a psych diagnosis to what could be normal behavior in a subset of the population. That behavior just means Cooper was likely a skydiver. Jumpers will use ANY excuse to get an attractive flight attendant to interact with them. I wouldn't put it past some of them to fake a heart attack if the stew was as cute as Tina and they had slammed down a few shots. If you had ever been on a scheduled airline flight with a bunch a skydivers, like a flight to Quincy Illinois back in the peak of the WFFC years, you'd know exactly what I mean. Guru, Nitrochute, any other old timers... can I get an "AMEN" ? 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Me too Georger. The rubber band condition appears to argue against the expert's conclusions about how and when the money got to Tena Bar. Am I missing something? I STILL smell a rat in the money find, just a hunch. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

You have nailed it Snow. That was the whole point of the CIA sponsored NORJACK experiment: to see if they could create obsessive behavior in otherwise normal people. What has astounded the designers of the experiment is the duration of the "DBC effect." 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

We want more of that excellent Photoshop humor Snow. What's next? 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

I wish we could get Dan Poynter to post here once in a while about the gear. You just never know what he might see that we mortals miss. The riggers here know all about the practical aspects of NB6s and surplus canopies, but Poynter could tell you which batch of Navy harness snaps were substandard due to improper heat treatment, how the color standard for sage green is calibrated and which manuafacturers' springs held their characteristics the longest in MA1 pilot chutes. As far as personality disorders go, read a few entries from this DSM IV (shrink bible) summary and see if you can recognize any of your friends or spouses described therein: http://www.psychnet-uk.com/dsm_iv/_misc/complete_tables.htm 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

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You crack me up sometimes Snow. I can handle rejection in the interest of preserving the cell's ultimate mission. Carry on. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.