BIGUN

Hey, fully 50% of Americans have IQ < 100 As would be the case in any country. It's a median score; not an average. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

You know.. whoever wrote that for her knows nothing of trade deficits/surplus. EDIT: I'm sorry - I forgot it was Jimmy Kimmel. Its not supposed to be fact-based; it's entertainment. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Bigun, I think I owe you an apology. We are much more in alignment than I previously thought. Joe Well, thank you for that, Joe. However, I will admit that my views have changed over the years, so we may not have been aligned in previous conversations. I don't know if its age, or dead children, or... but I do know we; as a nation need to do something different. I don't think my viewpoints were wrong in the past. But, I do know we have to change for the better and as the population grows - we have to grow into the future with it. Keith Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

We are in agreement. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

That's just stupid. They're a company and can do what they want but that's stupid. So, let me see if I got this right... Bans are good. Self-imposed corporate bans are stupid. Sorry, what? I'm not sure what statements of mine you're linking together or what youtube has to do with gun bans which is what I assume you're getting at. My apologies. I went back and re-read your February post. You clarified in a later post - not bans; but restrictions (regulations). Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

That's just stupid. They're a company and can do what they want but that's stupid. So, let me see if I got this right... Bans are good. Self-imposed corporate bans are stupid. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

As long as people salivate for "likes," retweets and "going viral" we will not want for the endless stream of silliness. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Gotta admit.. seen my share of skydivers with a broken leg/arm/sumpin leaving the plane. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Billvon Quote (I know because I always start counting when I pull just in case.) +1 Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

So you have maybe what... 3-5 minutes of experience in skydiving? How many performance-oriented sports do you think one can master in that period of time. Trivia: You know how many people flunked more than one dive in their AFF and went on to become champions in many types of disciplines? Bunches. Don't overthink it. Relax. Have fun. Do as your Instructor recommends. That is all. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Yeah, Joe. I listened to her and read what she said. I don't see where anything she said was any different than some of the things we've discussed here. As for her father coming from Cuba in '68... sounds like he made something of himself. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

There's a meme running around and it said something about taking her serious with a communist flag on her sleeve. The flag was Puerto Rico. No, it was a Cuban flag. Her father was born there. Snopes I stand corrected. Forgive my "quick look" and thinking Puerto Rico and not Cuba. Must be some kind of senile thing to invert the colors. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

There's a meme running around and it said something about taking her serious with a communist flag on her sleeve. The flag was Puerto Rico. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Do you really believe that attacking with whatever is on hand is all that "active shooter drills" encompass? Have you ever taken an active shooter class? Yes, working in a college - its mandatory. Being a soldier for half my life; consider it an ineffective pseudo security policy. We can disagree, but you're never going to convince me that ASD is some kind of great response when we can focus on prevention. Please don't spend any time trying to persuade me of the great tenets of ASD. It's not worth my time. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Morning, Bob. No vote. IMO; it's up to the people of Elizabeth to decide what they want to do. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Well, after they're done throwing rocks. You know; I just got into a pissing contest with someone influential in the community. His solution? More "Active Shooter" training. I may be one of the few that think the Active Shooter Scenario is a dumb-shit plan. You want unarmed teachers and kids to attack a man with a gun using fire extinguishers. chairs, etc. Kids can't deal "with these situations." I better stop now that I'm angry. Someone tell Santorum to sit down and STFU, please. EDIT: No wait!!! Let's send the kids into combat with these magnificent new skills in active shooter. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

I can only speak to the middle class and below. Minorities: Mostly being in a lower income bracket - they had a family shotgun. It was used for hunting and someone may have to wait for their Dad or Uncle to get back with "the" gun. Women: Very much so. It wasn't unusual to see women driving pickups and they too; had a gun rack in the back. Remember that we're only two generations back from the land rush and the phrase, "that's a hard woman" meant that she would shoot the first one who she thought would cause her family harm. To this day, "going to the range" or "goin shootin" is a form of bonding (male or female). Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

I agree. There was a time when we used to run around with a gun rack in the back of our pickups - including high school kids. Back then, it wasn't unusual to go hunting after school. Nobody was even concerned with school shootings. Even 25 years ago when I was in Grad School I used to commute about two hours three days a week. The highway patrol pulled me over on a couple of occasions and they would walk up to the vehicle and just ask, "Where's the gun." You told them cause you weren't breaking any laws. And, the joke was, "You don't pull yours and I won't pull mine." Some idle chit-chat as they ran your license (they'd have you come back to the car) and then they'd send you on your way with a warning or the occasional ticket (depending on your attitude). People were a lot more decent towards each other. But, times have changed and we need to do something more than one feel-good legislation. We need a complete overhaul. I don't remember which thread it was, but I mentioned something about everyone gets locked on that part of the 2nd amendment that gives us the right to bear arms and they skip over the part about "Well-regulated." So, you'll understand if I'm more about the well-regulated than the term, "restrictions." Part of that is due to that need for an overhaul. I just think/know that if the gubmint starts talking restrictions - The NRA will have a foothold on their chant of "See, they're coming to take your guns." And, we'll be right back here again. Unfortunately, we have a government that is run by which lobbyist shouts the loudest. We may be on separate sides of the spectrum on a lot of issues, but we agree on this one. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Morning, Bob. I'm going to suggest contacting username IrishRigger If he can't directly help you; then perhaps he can help get you one level of separation closer. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

I'm all for that. Mass Shootings Proposal Thread. In fact, the entire first line in the proposal was a direct theft from your Canadian Model. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

I'm one of those "bad boy" types. I have a tendency to wash down my HBP meds with coffee in the mornings. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Yeh, but if it calms people down and settles that knee jerk "we have to do something, anything" urge without arming even more people it's a bargain. I was looking at it more as a "Palestinians vs. Guns" proposition. Bringing rocks to a gun fight isn't a good long-term plan (ask the numerous Palestinian children that have been shot with that plan). Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

>>"Are you willing to give up any of your access to the toys of war..." "Give up your" sounds more like a ban than "restricting your" Perhaps if you enunciated your "restrictions" in the context of furthering this discussion and taking my testicles off the table; it would help. Are you talking about restrictions as in "Smoking is prohibited in this building" Like the "Gun-free zone restriction" which has worked really well OR restricting my ability to own the guns I choose? Cause, that's a ban. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

My first instinct to this kind of comment is - they don't have to. We have a 2nd Amendment that's been upheld by SCOTUS - The same SCOTUS you revere when they find on the side of numerous personal and equal rights. The second instinct is to ask - How are you defining "toys of war?" And who gets to make that decision? One of the greatest "toys of war" was developed in the early 20th century and manufactured in the UK (British Enfield) and is responsible for the deaths of many. It is now considered a low-end early entry hunting rifle. And, it can be cut down, put on a polymer stock and made to look like current assault rifle or "a toy of war." Bans don't work. Just ask the 420 crowd. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

That's only one item of several the superintendent has laid out: Efforts include limiting visitors to a single entry point (We do this with primary and secondary security buzz ins... A buzz to unlock the front door, a second after you've scanned your DL, had your picture taken, is cross-referenced in the database and a badge is printed out as being authorized to be on the school property to be allowed in the student section of the school (LobbyGuard). Providing a minimum of one school resource officer at every campus (we have this. EDIT: Well, we actually have campus police) Conducting risk assessments for all district schools by the beginning of the next school year (we do this). Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.