GQ_jumper

They claim to not even know who the girl is that made the call! They do not even know who to arrest!!!!!!!!!!! This such a crock of shit reason! Not to mention, they have taken these people's children and wrecked their houses and lives on the claim of one caller who they cannot even locate?????????? Am I the only one who thinks these actions by this government too much? You Suckers!!!!!!! Quote Do you read anything, or just what supports your position?? The authorities were collecting evidence against these people for quite a while before this phone call came in, they didn't just suddenly get turned onto this whole thing by one phone call. They had been waiting for the reason to take everything they had before judge to seek a search warrant for quite a while, this call for help was the green light they needed. When you have tons of information and want to go after someone and anonymous cry for help is the trigger you need to get the ball rolling. And apart from the one phone call, they have found more than enough evidence to justify their actions. Do you think those girls should still be held by the men that were forcing them into marriages? History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

The question isn't why this raid took place; the question is why didn't it occur sooner.Quote That's a very good question, and from the looks of whats been reported so far the raid didn't happen sooner because the authorities were trying to make sure that they had all their ducks in a row before they made a move. Anyone with any amount of common sense would have known a raid like this would cause the media to have a feeding frenzy so they wanted to make sure they went by the book so that nobody would be getting out of trouble because they had a lawyer who found a loophole in the warrant. History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

Now I know what you guys are talking about, this was going on last time I was there, and it was quite effective in some areas. Ever heard the saying "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"? We have a mutual enemy with the sunni militias and made a deal with them so they would chase down certain AQ targets for us so we don't have to lose more American soldiers. We aren't just handing them free cash and sayin "sick 'em boys", in order to keep their support they have to sign agreements stating their left and right limits when they are operating against AQ and what will cause them to lose their support and find their way back on our target list. Tell me, would you rather see more Americans killed, or see the Iraqis pushed to step up and take charge of their own fate? History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

How appropriate that there is a General in the Whitehouse named Lt. General Lute [pronounced LOOT] Seem he fits right in with the policies of the Administration to do just that for 7 years now.*** I'm failing to see the question in that post of yours for Gen. Petraeus. Did you even bother to read my post? History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

Some more information on this story for those who are complaining about officials stealing people's rights. There was an informant inside the compound for 4 years feeding evidence to authorities so there was no lack of evidence prior to getting a warrant to raid the compound. It also appears that authorities were wanting to enter the compound for quite a while but held off because they didn't have sufficient evidence to acquire the warrants and didn't want to risk allowing the suspects to get off on technicalities because the investigation wasn't thorough enough. I don't have an internet link for it at the moment I just caught the end of the story on the news a few minutes ago. Seems like the authorities did all the right things in this case. History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

I never said I didn't agree with you that thre's a bunch of people profiting from this war, but to come into the thread, make no mention of the topic at hand and just post your mindless Bush bashing while completely ignoring the conversation going on in this thread seems about on the same level as a bunch of college students throwing protest bumper stickers on random cars. History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

Source please History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

I would like to know that too. Quote The areas I was in where the Iraqis were largely responsible for their own security it seemed that their hearts were in the right place they just needed a little extra guidance and support. After a few short months of working with them and setting out some requirements for them to meet in order to keep our support they were hangin tough without us. The only time they asked for help was when they were going after a target known for having a fair share of armed cronies at their disposal, they wanted us to go so they had the big guns if things went south. It was just a lack of confidence honestly, they were more than capable of handling those situations, and everytime we rolled through one of them they got a little bit more confidence in their own abilities. They've got all the tools and are moving in the right direction, some parts of the country are just tougher than others. IMO History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

How appropriate that you shoud come out of left field with a Bush bashing comment and completely ignore the debate at hand. History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

Am I the only one who sees the irony in Mexico's complaints about a bunch of Mexicans flooding their country?? How bout anytime we deport someone we send a bill to the Mexican government for the cost of deportation, how long do you think it would take after that for them to do something about the situation? History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

She made a statement yesterday I believe it was that she has absolutely no intention of taking the VP slot. I think it's just the media drummin up stories. History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

Agreed I think against Obama he has head start, Hillary is trying to pick Obama apart in her campaign and Obama is losing some of his "Golden Boy" luster in his counter-attacks against Hillary. Not to mention hw many times he's taken shots directly at McCain and then issued a quick politicians apology. Meanwhile McCain is sitting on the sidelines watching those two drag each other down and coming out on top every time they take pop shots at each other or him. The Dems are beating themselves in this election. History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

For the record, England is not safe from ninjas it's safe from samuri attacks, god you people are dumb, don't you know your swords I'm stationed with a couple guys who were previously stationed over there and they said that since there are no guns there attacks and murders are committed in all kinds of crazy ways. They talk about hearing stories of people being hacked apart with chainsaws and being stabbed to death on a regular basis. If people don't have guns they will find something else to use, its just up to how far the government will go to save us from each other. History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

I LOVE THAT LINE Unfortunately according to all those armchair quarterbacks whom you would assume were retired generals by the way they talk despite having never served themselves, combat is a simple equation. It's sad really. As for what I would ask Gen Patraeus, how well is security holding up in the areas where responsibility has been trasnfered completely to the iraqis. History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

PERFECT. I wonder what it will be when the democrats finally have a candidate. Quote It won't matter who's picked, by the time those two finish ripping each other apart nobody will have any respect left for either of them and McCain will just cruise down easy street on his way to a win The Dems are turning into their own worst enemies at this point. History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

That's dead on the mark! History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

Gore didn't get away with anything, the creators of South Park saw right through him, he got slammed straight off the top rope History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

I used to weigh 215 without gear, and believe me dropping down into the 180's helped me immensely. I was still able to fly with anyone at 215 but I had to work a lot harder and fall rate was always a concern. Like others have said though fallrate is everyones responsibility, not just the heavy guys. The little ones have a tendency to think that their natural fall rate should just be what everyone has to deal with, if they don't want to find a fallrate that works for everyone while youare trying to lose weight and learn to fly better than find some new jumping buddies that will work to help you. History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

Look we totally blew it. I mean WTF.. we had a perfectly good policy of Manifest Destiny...there should not even BE a Mexico or Canada now I'll agree with you on the mexico part, but I kinda like the canooks History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

...or the Gulf of Mexico... Or Disneyworld! History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

If we gave back everything ever won in war we wouldn't have the east coast. Just throwing that out there History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

Good reading, thanksfor posting that one. History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

And unfortunately just leaving isnt going to fix it. I wish it did because pakistan is going to explode before too much longer and we will have a whole other crisis and not enough resources or man power to take it on. Quote agreed 100% History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

Ignition at both ends, compress the nasty bits in the middle, and stand back. Quote If you're carrying it in a suitcase how do you stand back?? Maybe you can just hold it at arms length I'm honestly not too worried about this stuff falling into the wrong hands, didn't you see that movie with Nicholas Cage, we'll know where it is before it is ever stolen. History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

I was responding to how well each and every warhead is completely under control and in a known location at all times. Clearly the Minot incident proves that theory wrong. Quote I've talked to people who have been stationed at the facilities where they store em, and the level of security and control measures they have are insane, I don't think one incident is indicitive of how ALL nukes are handled. History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower