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Deny THIS! http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=12782&page=R1

Just completed it ... the results should be interesting

Silly you! ALL of them are in on the great conspiracy. The fact that they all agree about AGW proves it Case closed.

THIS guy is a Nazi and a Republican. He is definitely not a communist nor a democrat.

Fixed it for you. Conservatives are very good at changing the subject ;) That's how they can fool 80% of the people most of the time. so democrat politician's are never power hungry money grubbing assholes? Is that what you're asserting? No, that is not what I am asserting. Here is exactly what I said:

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Avoiding obesity and diabetes (type II being very directly linked to the first) would help as well. Those are details for this person not included in the short version. Shouldn't all obese people with diabetes be treated equally? Are you suggesting that it's ethical to let the poor one die while the rich one gets treatment? Or are you saying that all obese people with diabetes shouldn't be treated regardless? After all, it's their own damned fault. Is that what you are saying?

That seems to ignore the substantial debt associated with it. Taxpayers pay for this regardless. And when revenues get further into the red, more will pay direct taxes for it. We don't ignore it. We accept it. It's going to cost more no matter what we do. Without a public option, the insurance companies will get too big to fail, and when they do, our health care system (or lack thereof) will destroy us. Taxpayers will pay dearly. Then we will finally join the rest of the developed world and have a single payer system. That's besides the point. It may be true, but the statement being addressed was Bill's claim that you only have to pay for this new plan if you didn't have your own insurance. I think the math says that those people are the ones paying the least additional amount in this. Taxpayers (those who pay income taxes and therefore the debt payments) get a load. So the benefit versus the cost is quite germane, even if you already have a plan. It isn't fair to claim that we ignore the substantial debt associated with one feature of the plan while ignoring the substantial debt associated with not implementing the plan at all. Anyway, if what you say is really true, that those who stubbornly refuse to buy any insurance at all will end up paying the least into this, then their tax should be much higher than what is being proposed in order to balance things out.

That seems to ignore the substantial debt associated with it. Taxpayers pay for this regardless. And when revenues get further into the red, more will pay direct taxes for it. We don't ignore it. We accept it. It's going to cost more no matter what we do. Without a public option, the insurance companies will get too big to fail, and when they do, our health care system (or lack thereof) will destroy us. Taxpayers will pay dearly. Then we will finally join the rest of the developed world and have a single payer system.

except... if you opt out of the government "option" you still have to pay for it. helluvan option... Seems to work for schools and colleges. Plenty of people choose private. ... and if you opt out of private schools, you still have to pay property taxes to make up for what they don't pay ;)

Fixed it for you. Conservatives are very good at changing the subject ;) That's how they can fool 80% of the people most of the time. Does it hurt to be that clueless? There you go again!

DON'T GET SICK.

Fixed it for you. Conservatives are very good at changing the subject ;) That's how they can fool 80% of the people most of the time.

You're right - they ARE 20 percenters. 1) Love to see yoiur cite. I saw Gallup, but as usual, it would be too honest for you to provide a website addy. HERE That's a good question. They just wanted change, I guess ;) The graph does, however, fully explain why the U.S. is in such serious trouble now. Conservatism has devastated our economy and our politics over the past 50 years and continues to do so.

She's basically a weak knockoff of Nixon in ways, but she isn't a good diplomat. This thread just ilustrates how much of an idiot she is; she can't even hire good ghost writers. She's a combination of Nixon, Reagan, and GWB. The idiots WILL vote for her.

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I would say there is a significant difference between a tree and a "birth of Jesus Christ" scene. Don't you think so? No he doesn't.

8 out of ten of the least educated states are red states, therefore Republicans are stupid. Are they Stupid Because They Vote That Way Or Voting That Way Because They Are Stupid?

That's only because the right wingers have more than one asshole apiece.

The ideal solution would be to send them all to Texas ... you know, the state with the best health care in the U.S. Then when they secede from the union we can surround them with land mines and give the whole mess back to Mexico.

lots of RW, "Real American" idiots do Rush needs to be taken seriously, notwithstanding the fact that he and his followers are utterly insane. He is advocating the overthrow of the U.S. government through unconstitutional means. His followers have guns.

You are more than welcome to start a new thread on those topics. This one is about Rush Limbaugh The Traitor.

—Richard Alan Nelson, A Chronology and Glossary of Propaganda in the United States, 1996

Finally there is proof

Be careful what you wish for I remember having the same attitude in the late seventies, when Ronald "guvment is the problem" Reagan was considering a run for President, after he had totally devastated California state government. I thought his running would ensure that the Democrats would win because Americans couldn't be so stupid as to elect the guy for President. Well, it turned out very badly, indeed. Palin/Beck need to be taken seriously. The strangest things can happen in politics, especially in times like these.