ChangoLanzao

Why not just require law enforcement officers to make pregnant women show their papers? No racial profiling necessary! That way, they can deport the illegal ones immediately before they give birth. Throw the baby out with the mother! Sterilize them while you're at it.

Yeah ... FALSE PRIDE.

THIS will help

Oh the irony. Your quote was from a dead man. What's even more lame is your method of argument, like this one, attacking the life status of the people who made the quotes, rather than the logic contained in them. For example, your argument seems to imply that all quotes from dead men are worthless, and that includes the large majority of well-respected, time-tested material, and leaves very little modern else to go on. It's quite obvious that you are an amateur in this game, both in your knowledge of guns, and in debate. You guys are brilliant. Thanks for the personal attack. Anyway ... I believe I used an aphorism rather than a quotation.

We'll see how well that works for you the next time a robber threatens you with a knife, or the government comes to take away your rights. "As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear arms." - Tench Coxe"...arms discourage and keep invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property... Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them." - Thomas Paine"One of the chief guarantees of freedom under any government, no matter how popular and respected, is the right of the citizens to keep and bear arms - just one guarantee against arbitrary government, one more safe-guard against the tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which historically has proven to be always possible." - Senator Hubert Humphrey, 1960 It's always easy to quote dead men to support your case.

What does literacy and gun rights have to do with each other? The opposite - yeah, there is a relationship. "The pen is mightier than the sword" is that the only thing you can find on quotefinder? Do you know what it means?

What does literacy and gun rights have to do with each other? The opposite - yeah, there is a relationship. "The pen is mightier than the sword"

As I mentioned, I'm not so thick as to think it will never happen. We do agree though, on the rest of your statement. However, I ask you, if we're disarmed then whats to prevent the govt from becoming the tyranny that the Constitution was designed to protect us from? I'll bet you Mahatma Ghandi, and Nelson Mandela, and Jesus could answer that for you. Agree... any fucking ideas as to how we go about doing that? Vote for people who don't think guns and violence are the answer. Your definition of a gun nut is my definition of a Patriot. Well, that is a big porblem. IF we were a nation of illiterate morons, then yes, arming every citizen might be the only answer.

We are in agreement!

That is definitely a probelm.

Your interpretation of my postings is simplistic and very wrong.

Seatbelt law-When enacted it was a secondary enforcement law-meaning you couldn't be stopped for it, but if stopped for something else you could be ticketed. Those of us that didn't like the law didn't fight too hard because, hey, if you drive like you have some sense, it's a non issue. Then in 05 my state turned it into a primary enforcement law. Now you CAN be stopped strictly for a sb violation. It's a lot easier to fly a law change under the radar than a new law-it can happen again. Having a gun collection won't help fight this.

It was served poorly. SKS rifle, if you're actually unaware. 10s of thousands affected by a redefinition that turned people who had made legal purchases into potential felons unless they gave their rifles back to the state. One of the more underhanded approaches of gun control fucks is to create as many potential felony violations as possible so that when people make innocent errors, they lose their rights. Where's the link? I would like to read the details. From what you said, it doesn't seem like wielding rifles helped the victims ward off the government.

He left out this part "While knowing the loss of surface area of the ice is important, Polyak says that this work can’t yet reveal an even more important fact: how the total volume of ice -- thickness as well as surface area -- has changed over time. “Underneath the surface, the ice can be thick or thin. The newest satellite techniques and field observations allow us to see that the volume of ice is shrinking much faster than its area today. The picture is very troubling. We are losing ice very fast,” he says. "

I made sure to get any gun I'd ever want. So, in the case you mentioned, how was justice served. Let me guess ... through the rule of law, right? I'm just guessing since you never cited the case you're referring to. Was there a shootout? Did the gun owner's gun come in handy to ward off the government? Or was it civil enforcement of the Constitution that prevailed?

Like many of your postings, very simplistic and very wrong. California has already had a confiscation after registration event, and it was only a decade ago. Wow! I didn't know that. I guess the war has begun. Did you grab your gun and go to the victim's defense?

I disagree [/laugh] You worry about guns, and a ridiculous scenario that will never happen. What IS happening is that we are being "disarmed" by having our ability to control our government and our lives usurped by the oil industry, the insurance industry, the banking industry, and the military-industrial complex. While we retain the right to have all the weapons we want, it's far more important to make sure that we have a strong, healthy government that we CAN trust. When the time comes that all the gun nuts decide to take matters into their own hands (the doomsday scenario that you seem so comfortably prepared for), they are not all going to necessarily be on your side

What kind of alternate reality are you living in? According to his bio, he lives in the "Real America" Is that right next Door to the idiot that thinks she can see Russia from Wassilly AK????? "...believe that the best of America is in these small towns that we get to visit, and in these wonderful little pockets of what I call the real America, being here with all of you hardworking, very patriotic, um, very, um, pro-America areas of this great nation." -- Sarah Palin

What kind of alternate reality are you living in? According to his bio, he lives in the "Real America"

I don't mind the thumb-sucking all that much, but in this case they are throwing turds.

""We don't have two systems of justice in this country – one for English-speakers and another for everyone else," said Azadeh Shahshahani, Director of the National Security/Immigrants' Rights Project at the ACLU of Georgia. "The constitutional guarantees of due process and equal protection apply to everyone in this country, not just to fluent English speakers." CLICKY

. . .and here is your tin foil hat . . . wear it with pride. It's less "tin foil" than the guy that said; Yes it is. Are you telling me that Obama is above that kind of political posturing? Sir, your answer speaks volumes and makes me smile to no end. Just remember, it's only the other people that are paranoid and wear tin foil hats. In hindsight, I think I could have just written "If a frog had wings, it wouldn't bump its ass a-hoppin'. But, I probably would have been accused of believing in winged frogs and been awarded the hypothetical tin-foil hat anyway

Excellent! But are you sure they wouldn't come after you if you posted the audio/video that you got of the incident? From the OP:

true, but then why would you suggest cameras be tacked onto the 2nd amendment? nice dodge by the way. you contradicted yourself. you got caught in it. Life is full of contradictions.