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I haven't added myself to the list yet, but I am now! Our group will of course be running the wind tunnel out past the swoop pond, so that's where you'll find me! So glad to see so many dz.com'ers making the trek to Rantoul, I haven't missed a WFFC in years, I anxiously count the days ever year like most! 9 days to go!!!!!!!!!!!!

1. Freedom a.k.a. DZ Life for 2 weeks 2. Seeing old friends, meeting new ones 3. Cutaway Cafe meals almost, daily 4. Flying until my arms are tired, daily. 5. Staying up all night 6. Cherry Jello Shots 7. Safety Meetings 8. And of course, the Wake-Up Song!!!!

I hear a large engine/motor and the first thing I do is look UP to see which plane it is! mostly its just a large truck passing by, or something.. Also, the backpack.. yeah, always trying to tighten my chest strap...

And so we must agree to disagree I can't wait to meet you some day....

Tunnelrat is like any other group, PMS, Muff, etc.. You earn it after you accumulate a variety of VWT's and fly in a prop jobbie with one from our original group, it's a fun way for us all to get together and learn from eachother. In fact we're taking a group with us to the WFFC to get their #'s.. (we're doing 4 tunnels in 4 days) Our organization leader, my husband, has been training flyers & skydivers since the early 80's, and if I remember correctly, while he opened SkyVenture for Bill in 98, Eliana was part of the original crew he trained and hired, so yes, I'm familiar with them, and I see Thomas regularly at the DZ, and they have amazing talent for sure!! (of course I could be wrong about Eliana's time frame @ skyventure, but I am sure she was there before John's contract was up and we left so I did know of her way back then) I won't defend my answer to the original question here.. we are certainly involved enough around the world to understand the dynamics of our market, and I offered a professional opinion that is absolutely relevant.

You stopped by the "tunnel"? Which one, we are involved with at least 9 in the states. Tunnelrats are a very small group..if there is a group of another tunnel rats, I haven't heard about them.. besides I'm the only one on DZ.com with that in my sig line, so you MUST be talking to me. I was simply verifying that no one in OUR group hates skydiving or skydivers. Still don't understand what was wrong with my posts from months ago that you keep bringing up... still doesn't seem like an assault on skydiving. My apologies to everyone else here for the thread drift... as you can see from my quote he posted, this is ongoing...

Thank you Sean..

That's odd, I asked around.. and no one knows who you are..??!!?? Besides your a skydiver, how can you "know" people who hate you? In fact I can only think of 1 of us who don't skydive, and they certainly don't hate skydivers (his mom & sister are both skydivers.. he also just took second place at the SkyVenture challenge with a bunch of skydivers) and any more personal shots... please spare everyone else the drama..send a pm.

I'm sorry, I didn't see the question about "Could a DZ survive on tunnel flyers alone?" I must've been mistaken, I though this thread was about Skydivers & VWTs...

It really depends on the group of skydivers. There are just some skydivers who are anti-tunnels. In the right situation, I believe it could. There is of course no reason to ever limit your potential customer base with only skydivers, but I think it can be done. I certainly wouldn't recommend it though..

I think perhaps, you and I are not so different coming from different sides of the issue. How are you on the whole death penalty thing.. against that too? Couldn't we have a thread where everyone in one paragraph listed most of their controversial opinions... I love studying human beliefs and how it correlates to the current development of humans as a society!!! I'm so curious if there are anti-abortionists who believe in the death penalty, republicans who want to vote for a democrat, liberal moms who don't believe in child care.. etc... wouldn't that be fascinating?? oh, and yes very sad when relating to our own personal convenience, I agree!

Hey goddess, this is an interesting one... I am in the "children are welcome at the dz anytime" group. of course that doesn't come without exception. I don't believe children should be left unattended at any time anywhere under any circumstances. PERIOD I think though, with enough exposure and education at whatever stage they are in, they won't be afraid. Of course each is different and some are more sensitive than others but the fear is of the unknown. I also would never expose my daughter to the typical DZ nightlife... not at her age anyway, but a couple more years.. 12 or so and I think she could and take it with a grain of salt.

It's simple, because I unlike the fetus in question can can continue living at this point without medical intervention.

I got pulled for FAR less than that type of offense... you'll find the reminder early on in the thread.

Ok, the reason I ask is this: I got the pox at 26, REALLY REALLY REALLY BAD This is a TYPICAL result to childhood vaccination against varicella, they took in that risk when they gave it to me anyway. I was utterly sick and in and out of the emergency clinic for 3 weeks. 3 years later, the scars are very much visible. For this very reason, I chose NOT to vaccinate my daughter, even though I had not had the pox yet, I KNEW the risks and weighed them carefully... moderate risk to her immediate health, huge risk to her adult health, preventing antibodies is never ok with me. We need them desperately!!!! This is important because, we base our knowlege, on what we have found, studied, unearthed and researched... science textbooks are only as good as the last decades great minds (if we're lucky). How can we rely heavily on anything that anyone tells us anymore? Since when are all doctors right? We always learn something new, frankly, we've only been at this "western medicine" thing for a short while... I went searching... every right to life organization gives the fetus more development at each stage than the scientific journals do. Post #5 would have us believe that an 8 week old fetus has fingers, toes, arms & legs, and fingernails.... when science clearly states, and intrauterine photos clearly show that arm and leg buds are BEGINNING to form at that same time and that the entire organisms is smaller than a dime??? There are so many conflicting opinions... how can that be? I know the two aren't directly related but what is that saying about our medical beliefs?

Umm, if that isn't a personal attack, I don't know what is. This has been going on long enough with you Rhino, you cannot insult every person that has a different viewpoint than you. Can we vote on whether Rhino should be permitted to continue with the condescending remarks and blatent disrespect for human dignity????

quick question there for ya... did you choose for your children to be vaccinated against any NON deadly diseases, like varicella (chicken pox for those who don't know)??? You know the ones that are not required prior to admission to Kindergarten and as late as 4th grade in some states? I mean since everyone else is off subject slightly I am taking the liberty too... I'll bring it back in I promise

Ok, just checking...I wanted to make sure I was following along. Personally, I don't think its a good idea to prevent my menstrual cycles, but I am well in touch with my body and hormone levels, and whenever I get it my bodies way of doing it's job, there are never good outcomes. That's bad

Hey, you know I got some respect for ya right? I find it hard to believe after all I have been through, abortion, pregnancy, childbirth, growing up with a RN/LPN for a mother as well as my sister the medical genious, that I have the wrong idea about ovulation. The only thing I know of that prevents ovulation is a hysterectomy, and that seasonal pill. If the OC prevented ovulation, we wouldn't have a menstrual cycle... right?

Oh, you get 2 hours each? That's better for sure!! Send pics if you can!! I can only speak for myself

A portable VWT budget for the 1st year of business should be approximately 1.5 million.. If you want to build an L1 or SkyVenture type, 5 million for the first year (including construction) should be enough. We've got lots of numbers if you'll make your way to the websites listed in my signature.

me thinks you're a little biased on that one... Of course I am, but hey what are wives for??!!?? Besides, his resume speaks for itself, as do his students, and noone else has over 20 years of their life dedicated to teaching people to fly like he does.

Thank you so much for the offer!! But I must politely decline

they are not here, nor have "they" voiced that opinion here. and There aren't enough qualified & anxious parents around.

I'm sorry, personally, I thought you were trying to have us hear your viewpoint. If you don't care what we think of you, then I don't care what you think about anything. That being said... It's a medical term, noone made it up to be disrespectful. Science should not be offensive to you in anyway, it is the very backbone of why you claim an baby can be delivered early.