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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction The fifth president of Iraq, Saddam Hussein,[1] was internationally condemned for his use of chemical weapons during the 1980s against Iranian and Kurdish civilians during and after the Iran–Iraq War. In the 1980s, Saddam pursued an extensive biological weapons program and a nuclear weapons program, though no nuclear bomb was built. After the Persian Gulf War, the United Nations located and destroyed large quantities of Iraqi chemical weapons and related equipment and materials throughout the early 1990s, with varying degrees of Iraqi cooperation and obstruction.[2] In response to diminishing Iraqi cooperation with UNSCOM, the United States called for withdrawal of all UN and IAEA inspectors in 1998, resulting in Operation Desert Fox. The United States and the UK asserted that Saddam Hussein still possessed large hidden stockpiles of WMD in 2003, and that he was clandestinely procuring and producing more. Inspections by the UN to resolve the status of unresolved disarmament questions restarted between November 2002 and March 2003,[3] under UN Security Council Resolution 1441, which demanded Saddam give "immediate, unconditional and active cooperation" with UN and IAEA inspections, shortly before his country was attacked.[4] During the lead-up to war in 2003, United Nations weapons inspector Hans Blix said that Iraq made significant progress toward resolving open issues of disarmament noting the "proactive" but not always "immediate" cooperation as called for by UN Security Council Resolution 1441. He concluded that it would take "but months" to resolve the key remaining disarmament tasks.[5] The United States asserted this was a breach of Resolution 1441, but failed to convince the UN Security Council to pass a new resolution authorizing the use of force due to lack of evidence.[6][7][8] Despite being unable to get a new resolution authorizing force and citing section 3 of the Joint Resolution passed by the U.S. Congress,[9] President George W. Bush asserted peaceful measures could not disarm Iraq of the weapons he alleged it to have and launched a second Gulf War. Later U.S.-led inspections found out that Iraq had earlier ceased active WMD production and stockpiling. The report also found that Iraq had worked to covertly maintain the intellectual and physical capacity to produce WMDs and intended to restart production once sanctions were lifted.[10]

It proves a lot, chicken little screams the sky is falling. Well chicken little has been saying that for 10 years and yet the troposphere remains in place.

The topic is stop and identify, not stop and let yourself be interrogated. I still have no issue providing my id. If it goes further than that, am I free to go officer, and if he says no, then I want my lawyer. No more words from me. Let me remind everyone again almost half the states in America already have this law, and your not seeing 1940's Germany as someone else alluded to earlier.

Yep on Father's Day I was pulled over and immediately read my rights in the parking lot of a restaurant. It seems a vehicle matching my truck and partial license plate was running people off the road about 10 miles away. We had just had dinner and I had the recipts to prove it wasn't me. As a kid living in a lower income subdivision we were fucked with by the police on a weekly basis and accused of throwing stuff in the road, and other general mischief. If I am ever actually involved in anything I will use that defense of not saying anything other than I want my lawyer in the future. In my Father's Day incident I had no clue what was going on, and was scared to death because he initiated a felony stop to include calling me out of the vehicle by microphone then reading me my rights so I wasn't even thinking straight. I have been abused by black state police officers before also. Nothing physical just general verbal battery.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=loud+cap A term for yelling in a derigatory manner.

If they took every threat on the Internet like that we couldnt build jails fast enough.

I appreciate your posts, I did not know we actually had anyone here that was on the inside and had actual in depth knowledge, and had done actual work on it. Not just posting links and copying opinions others wrote.

Some are. I'm willing to admit there are dick and stupid cops. Thank God they are only a fraction of cops as a whole. I hate the bad ones as much as you do, I just don't see some of the incidents presented here all the time as being that way. I have had run ins with both. One commanded me to get off the grass at the state Capitol, and loud capped me as I continued on my way knowing he had no authority to do anything but project his ego and authority.

Speaking of the useless TSA there was a recent report that showed something like 97% of weapons we able to be snuck past a check point. I'm on my phone now, but go look it up if you want.

I took it as inferring there were those among us. If not why make a general statement like that about a select few. Some people also benifit from being submerged and held under water until the problem goes away..........answer=people who were on fire. Same type of comment. Took to be taken as one until the answer is revealed. Ooh I'd diddnt mean that, you misunderstood me /winkseyesquickly. Get it.

Forgive me for using my common sense and looking at each incident instead of jumping on the anti cop hivemind train where if you hate cops no matter what your one of us. And your search fu is slipping there has been a few incidents brought up here in which I have agreed with you. I can't help it that you guys keep just serving up "omg this cop did this" threads.

Care to explain who here on this forum would benefit from a true "police state"?

If the U.S. military was let loose, and the citizens contributed like they did back in the day to the war effort I believe we could even knowing how much in debt we are. I never underestimate what Americans can do when the shit hits the fan and its really on. The only thing that would stop us is pussy footing around and hog tying by the left.

It is when your comparing a record of things that are similar but not the same norm lets be serious now. That would be like saying a football team sucks because they went undefeated all year, but lost 4 games post season when they were forced to play without using their hands every game...

The USA is 1 for 5 in wars since 1945. All we do is kill lots of people (including our own troops) and achieve very little. You can't compare world war victories to these police action wars where you had to fight with your hands tied. Given an open playbook I have no doubt the U.S. could win any war at this point. No saying that we should because an open playbook is a massacre for casualties. Throwing a 1/5 ratio out there is just stupid.

As long as it is a consensual encounter and the person agrees to give up that information it is fine. I personally don't interact with cops unless I am being detained. They have to have a legal reason to detain me. At that point I let them know I don't answer questions without an attorney. Heh, identity rape. Just because you diddnt identify doesn't mean you were asking for it? Lol

I see it like a bunch of childish kids playing a game exactly to the letter, and just because a stupid rule is the way it is they play that rule and stick their tongue out anytime they can at the player they despise(cops). Na na boo boo I don't have to show you my ID. Wow an emote that fits in perfectly lol!

Honestly tho if you put into perspective all the invasiveand costly things our governemnt makes us do having the rare chance of being stopped and asked to see my ID for me personally is a no big deal thing. I understand others millage may vary.

Check the post again, there was a hidden message.

"papers" really.... I guess you walk or ride a bike everywhere? What about voting? GOT YOU!!!! LOL

January 24th, 32841973 BC Holy shit your on a roll this morning!!

23 states already have mandatory identify laws, does that mean that almost half the U.S is already turned into 1940's Germany? It already exists, and isnt some massive issue, the only reason your hearing about this is the only thing in the news was the pregnant woman a cop threw down, and a dude that became an ugly woman.

I do find it ok if I were walking down the street, and they were looking for someone with my characteristics named John Smith, and I were asked for my ID. As far as I know under the "dont ask me any questions bro" laws it would be legal for me to say no. I dont find it one bit an invasion of privacy to know my name address, and social, the government already has that info, its not like its a secret code word for some magical door in Lord of the Rings or anything.

Whooa...careful counselor, you're dancing on the margins with that race card again. Life is one big race. Here's my card. Ah, the Bill Engval card, I see. /Thread! LMFAO

Illegal fishing for what??? Your name? Honestly who cares what your name is, and if the cops know it. If you have warrants take care of your shit, don't come up with some unreasonable argument as to why you shouldn't be asked for your name.