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You do realize that 500K is play money, even to a near bankrupt shit-hole country like Iran, right? And as a bail amount, it's not that uncommon around the world, right? Iran just seems to think the crime of being an American is about how the rest of us consider armed robbery or attempted murder. As far as putting an embargo on them, you're the progressive left wong socialist. Take it up with the UN. Oh wait, that's right, the UN sanctions are in place and not worth a damn. They're also bordered by six or seven countries with seriously rugged terrain as well as the Caspian Sea and the Persian Gulf. I'm sure that would be an easy embargo to set up. Nah, no way the other Islamic countries in the UN would have a problem, or Russia, you know the close neighbor and longtime ally to to Iran. The one with veto power. No trouble getting the resolution passed. Any more bright ideas? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

...live in peace and not under foreign occupation Don't attack and invade a more powerful neighbor, and maybe they won't take the land they feel if necessary to defend themselves. Don't have a terrorist organization as your ruling party. Dot launch rockets a civilian centers. Maybe them folks will think youbwant to live in peace. Hey, at least you got the "not under foreign occupation" part right. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

That would be the "Hannity and Fox Liers" thread. There are several examples given thy show left leaning media fabricating stories just the same way right leaning ones are accused of doing. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Even midgets can stand on the shoulders of giants. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Congratulations, you've disovered that a lot of rich people know each other, use their money to stay rich, and they run powerful corporations. The rest of your conclusions are the normal nutbag drivel that we are sick of hearing. Yes, I read your entire post, no you haven't shown anything new, and yes you still look like a fucking nutjob. Get off it. Or at least, in the realm of your nasty little conspiracies-are-everywhere world, accept that everyone here is too brainwashed, or stupid, or whatever you want to call us, to every accept your secret truths. [/feeding the troll] witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

I was just distinguishing between media publishing the lies forgeries and deception of others and the lies forgeries and deception they create themselves. Was trying to keep it on point for Darius and anyone else who doubted or questioned my assertion that media outlets regularly create and publish fiction and portray it as fact. However, in a more general sense, I completely agree with you that both types completely undermine any claim to equity or integrity. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

I wasn't going to count that, or the photo of "burning Gaza" that another one published, or even the cropped flotilla picture that excluded the knife. Yes, obviously they should have been checked and discarded, but the same thought process that leads to outright lies and fabrication can also lead to accepting questionable sources because they support the story you WANT to tell. But ultimately those are forgeries of others. Publishing media can claim incompetance instead of malicious intent. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

I'm thinking anywhere from 5-4 against to 6-3 in favor of allowing it (5-4 in favor being middle ground). I think it's unfortunate, but I think you're right. I'm going to hope for a 5-4 against, thereby requiring a warrant. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

OK, so long as we're clear that you didn't like turtle's example, not that you didn't think other outlets did the exact same thing on a daily basis. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Nothing to say about the example I put up? Edit to add: Or Mike's? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

CNN. May 2003. Assault Weapons Ban story. A complete fabrication. Proven deception. Involved a Broward county law enforcement officer who has no problem playing fast and loose with the facts. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

If you were a criminal the law concerning legal purchases at a licensed gun shop wouldn't affect you. Criminal break the law, so prior restraint type gun laws only affect people who follow the law. Punishing the actual bad act involving a gun is something we can all get behind. I wonder the same thing myself. Personally I think firearms purchases and gambling should be 18, and drinking should be legal much younger (think Europe). witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

It all comes down to the definition of "seizure" and how invasive the black robes think constant tracking is. All fourth amendmet issues are a matter of how signifcant the law enforcement intrusion is (including into areas LEOs can't follow otherwise). From use of force to searches to tracking and observation, it all gets balanced out against the right to be secure and free. Talking needs less than detaining needs less than frisking needs less than a search or arrest. Same thing with observation. The Kelo v New London case said officers couldn't use infrared imaging (possibly indicative of drug operations) to obtain warrants. But now some areas let you track folks anywhere they go without a warrant. I don't think either decision would be legislating from the bench as both arguments have some relation to established written law and legal precident, unlike say creating the "right to privacy and have medical procedures" out of thin air. I do hope they choose to require warrants, but we'll see. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

I'm hoping this issue will be addressed when the supreme court addresses the gps installed on a car issue,which already has appellate decisions that contradict each other. The gps is is more invasive because they have to attach it to your car, but the phone is more invasive because most folks take their phones a lot more places than their vehicles. I'm against both actions being legal without a warrant but am not sure how the court will split over this. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Which can be said of just about all the 24 hour news channels. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Five boxes: soap box mail box ballot box jury box ammo box Use the other four first, and maybe you won't need the last one to affect policy or protect liberty. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Court allows warrantless cell location tracking witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

http://www.nraila.org/News/Read/NewsReleases.aspx?ID=14212 http://www.kcbd.com/global/Story.asp?s=13130052 http://www.kltv.com/Global/story.asp?S=13120824 http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-washington-dc/nra-lawsuit-to-secure-right-of-18-year-olds-to-buy-handguns-from-dealers-makes-sense witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

No, it's YES WE CAN!!! I am America and so can you! witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

I accept Visa, MC, AmEx, and Discover. So in other words, the support wasn't there and because democrats wanted to cram the bill through into law, they had to take changes. Yeah, that whole democratic republic and the people choosing their elected representatives is so damned inconvenient when you want to force your point of view. RIIIIIIIIIIIGHT. The media has a huge conservative right wing slant. Uh huh. I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell, and some ocean front property in Arizona. Yup. those nasty republicans who have owned the house and senate and white house and judiciary for decades..... Keep on going, don't let a little thing like the facts get in the way of a good propaganda rant. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Lots of other groups have tried it. Everyone from Nazis to Jews, commies to Muslims, even Catholics and Protestants at times. Somehow it's still here. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

And in that thread you were spanked. You just decided youbdidnt want to hear the critiques, an you never answered the tough post. Par for the course with a with a true believer of any religion yours happens to be socialism, or being "progressive." Then again, that's probably why you think alternet is a reliable, reasonable, and unbiased source. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Bill, do you disagree with Mike's charaterization of what Clinton and GWBush signed concerning stem cell research? If you don't, I don't see how this last post from you makes sense. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

I particularly like how he focused on the fact that the judge is sitting in Texas. It's not a Texas court. It's federal. He also just happened to leave out the fact that the three appellate judges who disagreed with the lower court were all appointed by the Bush presidents. Damn, Lucky, don't you just hate it when facts get in the way of a good propaganda rant? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Yeah! Fuck the laws that congress passed! We don't need no stinking laws! We should all just do whatever Lucky feels is right at any given moment![/sarcasm] And before you go off on another rant about neo cons and fascist and whatever other nasty names you can come up with, I happen to support stem cell research. The reason you won't like my position is that I don't think laws should be thrown aside just because someone doesn't like them. Use the legal process. It's there for a reason. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*