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But that's exactly what you want to stop. You don't want people being judged by the quality of their work. You want affirmative action, which judges people solely on their race. That is racism. Really? Should I tell you that I dream of a day where people are judged not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character? I support it for obvious reasons... most of which I have stated throughout the thread. You support racism. Doesn't that make you a racist? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

The original essay can be found at http://passionbomb.com/words/push_roost.htm ps - sorry for the four posts, but I kept finding better stuff witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/state/ny-bc-ny--speakerprotest0128jan28,0,3081633.story?coll=ny-region-apnewyork witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apus_story.asp?category=1110&slug=Speaker%20Protest witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=16812 witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

You know, when even you, Bill, and I can agree on something, it should be obvious to jus about anyone. Too bad politicians don't get it. An example from yesterday's news. So since we all agree CCW permit holders are not dangerous folks, why is this politician flipping out? I don't remember which state it was, but after some lunatic attacked the state legislature's securty folks, one senator proposed allowing guns in the building to prevent another attack. It's the Reagan vs Brady mindset. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Isn't that kind of demeaning to tell someone they can't get by without the government giving them a leg up? I shouldn't be given a job just because I'm white, and you shouldn't be given a job just because you're black. Why were race-based-admissions considered bad racism when whites were benefiting, but race-based-admissions are good and not racism when blacks are benefiting? Really, why should someone suffer or benefit solely because of their race? Isn't that what we're supposed to be fighting AGAINST ?!? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

What, no more devil's advocate? I've got two or three other "pyschology of gun control" articles. I'll post them a bit later. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Funny thing is, enforcing a law against car ownership would be a lot easier. First, it's kind of hard to use a car and not seen. They're not exactly inconspicuous when in use. Second, they need work a ot more often than a firearm. Cars break down and wear out on a regular basis. Guns can last hundred of years. Third, just about everyone has registered their car, so confiscating them and destroying them would be a great deal easier than going after everyone's guns. Hey, there's a law that they might actually be able to enforce. Maybe they should pass that law. After all, if it saves just one child.... edit: spelling witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

You sure need a license to be in command of one, and a medical exam too. And I'm sure those regulations exist specifically to prevent murders committed with airplanes. That just shows how ridiculous that particular analogy was. Or do you think people should need a license and medical exam to purchase anything that is potentially lethal? The plain truth is Mike had it backwards. Guns are not easier to get and less restricted. They are harder to get than anything else and more restricted (even though those restrictions haven't been shown to reduce crime). Do you have anything to say about the general truth that one can own just about anything he wants, and do as he pleases on his own property? Do you have a reason why guns should be different from everything else? Any comments on the other analogies he offered up that I answered? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

My neighbor painted th inside of his house fluorescent pink to keep the aliens away. So far he says they haven't visited, so I guess it worked. I know a guy who puts salt on his shirt to keep elephants away, and he hasn't seen any, so I guess it worked, right? So you think John is inventing the idea that banning guns enacted to reduce crime? Boy, I guess you don't watch or read the news much, huh? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Everytime I hear that "guns are made for killing people" line, I just htink to myself "Really? Wow, then they're doing a very poor job of it." Sometimes it's "Really? So what am I doing wrong with mine?" Some people just can't understand that guns are tools like any other. Their purpose is defined only by the user. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Only if you want to use it on public roads. It is perfectly legal to collect cars without having a license. You can transport them from one spot to another with a wrecker. You can even drive it as long as you stay on private property. It's the same with guns. You can buy them, use them on private land, transport them unloaded, and collect them. If you want to carry them in public, then you need a license. (in most places). Same thing with an aircraft, I don't need a license to own one. With a parachute, you don't need a license to own it or use it. It's just hard finding someplace to jump when you don't have a license. You can legally do it without the license. "Posses" and "use in public" are two very different things, actually. Actually, that idiotic 5 day waiting period has been scrapped in most places. Now they run your name through the NICS and you can walk out that very day. Why should there be a five day wait? I can tell you why there shouldn't. Ask a female staff sergeant who used to live in South Carolina. Also, do you want this so called vetting before you buy any "potentially lethal item?" Well, since I've blown your story out of the water, from there nothing much is self-evident, other than that private property and civil rights are still somewhat in existence. So you want a Police State, then? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

And people wonder why I love this girl. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

I do. So what? That shows that the stats on Russia are useless, not that all statistics reported are bunk. You should take your own advice here and not speak of what you don't know. Most of our population is in urban centers as well. THe vast majority of our country is empty. (just ask billvon about his "if only dirt could vote" comment) I didn't see John or anyone else do that in this thread. Could you point me to the post where it did happen? So what. You are 600 times more likely to be killed with a sword in Japan than in America. What difference does the implement of death make? Would you rather be murdered with a blade than a firearm? I don't think it would make much difference to me. Besides, if you want to talk about unflattering crimes stats, lets talk about the fact that the UK has a violent crime victimization rate of 26% while in the US it is around 4%. We've both got crime problems. John just likes to point out that their little gun ban isn't doing a damned thing in helping crime. National gun ownership rates have no correlation with crime rates, let alone any causation. Now if only people would stop calling for gun bans in the name of fighting crime... Using violent massacres to set national crime policy is like using a tsunami to set beach lifeguarding rules. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

I like pie. I wonder what the fine is for eating pie. I wouldn't fine her if she brought me pie. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

What about people who aren't in the group supported by affirmative action but whose family arrived in the country after the end of slavery? Why should people who had nothing to do with it pay/suffer? Why should someone suffer or benefit solely because of their race? Isn't that what we're supposed to be fighting AGAINST ?!? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Between the name, the lust for power, the issues with projection, and the list of irrational fears, I really have to wonder if that guy has relatives in Chicago. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

I might give them a "Freeze!" and a half a second to realize I'm pointing a gun at them. Then they decide whether or not they get shot. I have to go with Ron and others that "presenting fisticuffs" is not the best way to wake up tomorow. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

100%, utterly, completely, absotively possilutely frickin sick of it. Then again, I spent three years in school with a couple of guys who owned the t shirt, the sweat shirt, ended emails with is, and generally were obsessed with it. Oh yeah, plus we had twenty or thirty new jumpers each semester (most tandems) who loved that saying for the entire 48 hours I knew them. I wouldn't say let it die because it's 100 years old. I'd say let it die because it's more overdone than Tommy Petty songs at a dropzone. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Once again proving your own maxim: witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Well they are by definition since they have to pass that test before they get the license......... So then you understand that the Bradys, VPC, and other gun banners are incapable of hearing or dealing with the truth? You understand that they've made up their minds and we shouldn't "confuse them with the facts?" witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

And people wonder why I'm applying to Wayne, NJ police department. They start rookies out around $55K/year before overtime and odd jobs. Not bad eh? As if anyone cares, it looks like this Jersey boy is going to be one of New York's Finest. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

I lived in Birmingham for a little over a year. I generally drove up to Cullamn, AL (beware the natives). You absolutely can't miss the Mardi Gras Boogie put on by the folks down at Gold Coast/Moss Point. It's a drive, but for a three day it's totally worth it. (for MGB info, talk to Kreg, aka n2skdvn) witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Somehwere in Texas (I think) there is a steak house that serves up something like a quarter of a cow. If I make a hoop with my arms, it's about that big, and fairly thick. Also, if you finish it, it's free. Kinda scary. However, a little roadtrip down to Clearfield, PA may be in order. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*