ramon

A wingover is a paragliding maneuver. where they dive pull out of it, gain altitude and turn a 180 or so back into a dive before they stall. ramon

It is a piece of cake actually (the actual dock that is, flying to it is a little harder). if you are both flying the same direction and the top man (the guy who is going to be pinned is a little slower (1/4 brakes) or doing slight sashays, the bottom aster guy can fly his canopy into the top guys butt. really what happens is it just grazes you (feels sort of like a ballon) and you reach down and grab an end cell). You can do a pretty violent reach and grab to and it won't hurt anything. As soon as you can grab this canopy fabric, do so and then look down at the bottom guys lines, pull the canopy over till you are centered (if he has crew liines, the 2 center lines will be red) and wrap your feet inside and around the two center lines then letgo with your hands and grab your toggles. Now you have a two stack...piece of cake. This is how violently you can grab. My friend Wane and I have done a two stack with small cross braced canopies (99FX and 109 FX). they are very twitchy and tend to zoom everywhere while he is trying to fly to my legs. The first time he got his canopy close enough for me to grab, I was late and he was out of reach in one second. the 2nd try I saw him coming and reached and barely grabed a nose cell. I held on, we twitch a little and I grabbed with both hands, dragged myself to his center and made the stack. It sort of got violent after I grabbed because they are so small, but we pulled it off. Doing this with larger canopies is really easy. You just have to convince your self that it is ok to let go of your toggles and grab your partners nose really quickly. Once you have it hold on tight until you can position your feet. You won't wrpa, or collapse anything just trying a 2-stack....5 stack or larger things can get a little twitchy...2 -stacks are stable.

that I don't know. ramon

I would probably go to a cloth store and look at patterns for a clown suit. For you...baggy. Pick strong material add reinforced stiches, strong zipper and velcro on sleeves and cuffs and some sort of velcro or snap to keep it zipped up and Oila!!! If you have a grandmother that sews, it would be convenient. a good taylor might cost more than buying one from say Michigan suits, hahahahahaha. A cheap seamstress shop, like maybe the ones next to the nail salons, they might cut you a dgood deal. ramon

My frined Wane just got his 80. Was lemon yellow instead of neon, but that was his mistake. Bottom skin was supposed to be blue and it wasn't. He doesn't care he loves it. Seems to flat turn a hell of a lot better than an FX. good luck ramon

I was the last guy to dock. I can flat track. Scotty always goes into a really steep track for some reason, but he pulls super low anyway.

The Pallbearer..yawn...ZZzzzzzzz

on a really highly loaded canopy you can initiate a spiral with just shifting your weight in the harness. r

Some of us on this group need a little discipline SMACK ramon

All the newer seven cells are about the same except for the diablo (most severly tapered in the rear edge). they all open good, tri is easiest to pack, and they all fly about the same (people that say they land bad, can't land 7 cells, people that love their particular 7 cell know how to land them) (I don't care what anyone says, the difference between a spectre and omega,and a tri is pretty much like two of the same cars next to each other, but one has different headlights and a non functional spoiler ) If I were buying a seven cell, personally would buy a triathlon as they are the least expensive ( maybe a used spectre). As a plus you can get Crew lines on it (just in case you decide to try

I second the 270 comment from Dan. If you have a big landing area you can do 90s and 180s with outs. I would add that you might try carving 90s the first time you want to feel some speed, it will be more forgiving at flare time because you wont be stabing to get out of an un-intentional low tunr and you can set up so that you have plenty of outs. PLUS!!! you get to see how quickly the riser pressure builds up on those bad boys. try and jump an FX afterwards and let us know if the riser pressure on the Xaos really was less, because it is pretty light on a cobalt. ramon

Nothing like walking to the East landing area above the septic tank when the sprinklers are on...mmmmmmm ramon

just kidding..sort of. at least you guys have a freaking club, we tried to make one at LSU twice...yeah rite....... gig em aggies r

If you are going to pay money right now this winter go to sebastian. Rook Swanson, Brown, can't beat the lineup. If you are going to wait go to any of the places mentioned by tthe others. bloo skies ramon

The skydiver "500 jump" comment was not meant as anything in reference to this board either, but just for...I dunno DZ protocol etc..

I knew that before you posted it. no offence ever taken..ever. The internet does not relay sarcasm well, so it can be misinterpreted, I've been in my own share of fights on rec.martial.arts (1994..I'm old skool brazilian jiujitsu) and rec.skydiving (I beleive I was called a "snivelling pussy" by 'Mr.Mom"..whose ass I could kick in reality see jiujitsu above..but that is inconsequential, I stopped there and ended his troll and...well..it is gone in posterity". friends are made and lost overnight in the internet and well....friends you can see are better anyway

Pretty much my exact experience jumping a 135 at 1.7 versus a vengeance. the cobalt was floaty and easy to land (though I'd like longer brake lines on a demo ), vengeance was divey and easy to swoop far and it flies sort of big compared to a stilleto. After I jumped the CBLT 135 I felt it was a good safe canopy for Zennie (downsizing from 150). bloo skies ramon I might have to order a 120 or smaller demo one of these days.

When you get to SDH on Saturday I wil have a blue and black freefly suit with black and whit "first school of Modern skyflying " patch on the left leg. Come claim your coach jump and bring a video tape ramon

Peanut is a great guy. I've been knowing him since I had 5 jumps. Very nice in person and fun to party with.Obviously doesn't have to work hard at his day job though. r

I still suck. We're always trying to improve on something .. r

I'm there dude. r

My bad. Did not intend a Roger Nelson discussion. Just meant to use him as an example of a powerful DZO. As long as Peanut stays away.... ramon

I like SDC (was there for summerfest) and I like Rook alot, you just haven't been around the block. and if you don't know anything about skydving politics you need to ask some older jumpers about Roger Nelson . LOL Politics kept you from jumping after Sept 11th. Politics got Class B airspace given over to skydiving operations. whatever. ramon

Anyone who has gotten involved in more than a handful of DZs has probably dealt with some pretty crooked individuals. I can think of several I have been to and I have only been jumping 2 and a half years . bloo skies ramon

Yeah The original idea was that we were self governing (as up jumpers that is). I am afraid that BOD members will wind up making votes in their interests and not the interests of the skydiving community. Oh well bloo skies ramon