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skycutie and alana definitely belong in this thread ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

hmm, pub... liquor...mmm ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

Finding a job as of late has been a rough task. It would be nice if the economy would pick up some! ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

Are you bragging???? Hmmmm ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

I think it has a lot to do with being able to carry yourself, both in atitude and physically. Plus some of the other things that people have already listed

I think that I'm trying or something like that I can't claim to be as good at it as any of the other famous PWs around here but at least there are ppl to look up to ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

haha, nice rig... ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

Postwhore??? I think I know I have a problem because im reading and posting to the forums from one of my classes with my wireless + laptop. Sure helps the stuck inside blues ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

Congrats, I live in wisconsin myself, but much farther south in the state. I jump at Sky Knights, were open all winter (just weekends in winter) so after you get your A, and it gets cold if there isn't a DZ jumping near you, there is us down south. Have fun, welcome to the fourms, and Blue Skies! ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

As a newbie when I was on student gear the thing that they taught me was to hold onto the last handle that I pulled, be it main ripcord, or reserve ripcord. On BOC now, i don't hold the boc (obv.) but I would still try to hang onto the reserve, unless i had further complications, then it would get dropped. ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

I'll preface this with the fact that im a newbie to jumping, i have 20 jumps, but I'm not stupid, and have read a lot on this forum and other places. Last weekend one of the students jumping at my DZ on jump #1 or 2 was comming into the landing area, and apparently not listening to radio because at 150 feet he decided he was facing the wrong way into the wind (which he wasn't) and hooks a 180, now... he got supper ass lucky that he didn't kill himself and only got scraped up/bruised etc. The fact that he was on a big manta sure made his life a whole lot longer/less painfull. I don't see how telling new jumpers that have almost no skill level at all that low turns kill, doesn't make sense. When I had only 1 jump, I didn't know what a flat turn, braked turn, etc was. To me a turn was pull the toggle down. Now I understand the more finer points of canopy control, how the canopy that I have been using reacts to riser input, flares, flat turns, spirals, etc. So to me it seems that for someone totaly new a nice low turn would kill, once you develop some skill doing the right turns etc at the right altitude then makes sense. As for the topic of the thread, me as a really low time jumper would make sure as shit I wasn't jumping the wrong thing, but if for some reason (act of god, whatever) I ended up under a tiny canopy, I don't think I would chop it and risk the mal over taking a long straight in approach to a large landing area, being ready to PLF and taking some practice manuvers when I'm up high. Maybe this isn't the right course of action, but I think its hard to weigh the risk of the two. If somone is at least an OK canopy pilot then a cautious approach etc would seem like the better idea even if its a bit smaller of a canopy than the reserve, if the person can't fly worth a damn, then they need all the help they get. *Again, just my newbie opinion* ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

I think this means that a new jumper experiences sensory overload just after leaving the plane and thier brain is thinking "what the fuck have you just done!?" It takes a little while to actually sink in. Yeah, my understanding is the same, it refers to when you come out of sensory overload and realize where the hell you are ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

whuffo you jump outta dem airplanes? or something along that line. a wuffo is a non-jumper that just doesn't get it, there should be many a thread about this if you look towards the top for the search button Welcome to the forums. edit: bah, im gettin slow :( ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

yeah, cool pic ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

wow, I would think they would shut it down if it was raining to keep the fans from getting messed up. Intersting, would be an odd experience for sure ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

Yeah, my week has sucked, going from doing nothing at all except screwing around on the internet and going to the DZ to having a schedual of classes to follow and being stuck inside all day sucks, so i hear ya. ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

Was on perc long time ago, been taking ibu pretty regularly since i was 15 for a back injury. I know its not super powerfull or anything, but i been taking it for like 6-7 years regularly ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

Congrats and welcome to the fourms! ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

haha, nice! There are so many good lookers in this thread

Furthermore, from section 6-1.b of the sim: 1. Before training for group freefall, each student should complete all the training and advancement criteria through Category F(Level 6) of the USPA Integrated Student Program, Section 4. 2. Initial training for group freefall skills should begin as soon as the student completes Category F of the ISP- a. to maintain interest in skydiving b. to encourage relaxation in the air c. to develop coordination d. to establish participation in group activities e. to encourage the development of safe attitudes and procedures 3. Initial training should begin with no more than two jumpers-the trainee and a USPA Coach or higher rating holder. 4. A recommended training outline for beginning group freefall skills is included in Categories G and H of the ISP. {Italics added by me, and the only reason that I saw this is because I was reading the SIM today studying to get my A, so if for some reason I am mis-interpretting this feel free to let me know} edit: i meant to include that though it seems obvious, it is a confusing statement. Though im pretty sure it means only the coach and student. Not that everyone follows this rule ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

As a new jumper I ahve made most of my jumps with someone (coach/affi) and for the most part they are letting me know ehen to get out, how long to wait etc., however I have made it a habbit to talk to somone be it one of the really experienced affis, or someone about what the wind is like at altitude, and how the spots have been for the loads that have already went up. Even though somone has been keeping track of me, its giving me some practical experience about what to look for on jump run, rather than just getting out the door because people don't want to wait, or get a long spot. One time one of our affIs actually stood in the door a good 30 seconds because he knew that the spots had been short all day. We were right in the middle of the load, everyone looked at him a little wierd for standing in the door of the otter so long, but people trust him because of the experience he has and realize there is a reason he is waiting. Sure enough, it was the best spot of the day. ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

I have very little experience in this area, however the things that reading this thread that come into my mind are, Do jump planes get checked for saftey related issues often enough, compared to other planes. What I mean is does the average jump pilot check a plane out for any maintnence issues just once at the begining of the day, then fly 20+ loads? Or is there some standard of looking at a plane more often. This by no means adresses the problem of planes running into each other. My guess is that the student pilots, flying with trained instructors, or more comercial based flying operations are looking at thier planes more often to see the little things that might prevent a blown out engine, or some other problem in flight that is not related to human error. Again, I don't know much about flying planes, or all the things that are done on a regular basis, but this is just something that came into mind. ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

I agree, as long as you are having fun it doesn't really matter that much. Sure it sucks to be new and a student, in the respect that there are things you can't participate in, but well... you have the rest of your life to jump... so just have fun! My first tandem was 7/2, started aff 7/13 and hope to have my A in the next few weeks. Blue Skies ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

You mean it opened once!!!! Hw could that EVER happen again!!! I'm a new jumper and I can tell ya I had the same thought for awhile, it starts to go away after time. One thing that I found helped was making sure I really drilled the emergency stuff into my head so that if, and when, something does go wrong I will know how to deal with it and get myself safely on the ground. Knowing what to do in the different situations really helps to give confidence that you will be ok, and that you are not 'tempting fate.' So no, your not alone, from everything that I have heard talking to the experienced jumpers at my DZ, most people go through the same stuff when they are just learning. ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

Thats my excuse for taking a vacation from the crappy winter weather in wisconsin!