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Hey goose... While we are at it, we will ban: Knives Axes Bows Chipper Shreaders Lawn Movers Ropes (strangling) Any type of Saw Baseball bats Golf Clubs Hammers Rocks Tall objects Steel toed boots Hands and fists and anything else that has been used as a murder weapon. Don't be stupid... ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

YES I own a gun, and guess what. To get a hunting license you need to pass a proficiency test. I think that you should have to take a test, or at the very least be competent to use it. That to me makes sense. If they can enforce an age limit on gun ownership, they can certainly enforce safety classes on ownership. Chris ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

Maybe Bill, but think about this... Don't you think if GWB really thought there wasn't WMD there, but used WMD as an excuse, that we WOULD have found/planted it there to find. Every day that goes by and we don't find strong evidence, it make me feel more confident that the President and his advisors and the Intel community were pretty sure there was something going on. In retrospect maybe what Bill Clinton bombed was just a pill factory, maybe there weren't WMD there then or now. Maybe the KAY report is right, and what there really was was an elaborate hoax by the scientist to lead SH to believe he had WMD when in fact there wasn't any. However, I don't Blame GWB Directly, because I think the evidence he was given he truely believed. I for one still feel no evidence is not proof that they don't exist. It is instead evidence they haven't been found yet. But that is just how I feel. Chris ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

What about the 14,000 that die from the FLU every year? 42,000 people died driving in the 2000 in the USA. Maybe we should get rid of cars too. Chris ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

My understanding is that nothing will change. The same thing happened in 4 other states, yet it is not legal or should I say recognized in any of the states yet. "One state, Vermont, allows same-sex civil unions. The key difference between civil unions and marriage is that benefits from civil unions would stop at the Massachusetts border while rights from marriage would extend across the country -- giving gay couples equality under federal laws for taxes, health and retirement benefits, among other areas." From: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&e=1&u=/nm/20031118/ts_nm/rights_gays_dc ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

I am not a religious man... Don't have a bible handy. ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

I know we supported him, but IMO it was something we had to do at the time. (I know that opens the debate for... UBL felt it was something he had to do etc) I don't think it would be a big deal. I think it would just confirm the suspicions a lot of people had. Hey, the way I see it, we didn't NEED UBL connections or even WMD to go after SH. The fact of the matter is, SH broke the cease Fire agreement after desert storm. And as per said cease fire, we were justified to attack. Chris PS- A UBL-SH connection would help shut up a lot of critics across the world. ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

So, why are the courts trying to say we need to Charge these people with something???? Why can't we just hold them in camps forever? ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

If a US citizen fights for another country or joins a forign legion, he/she looses all their US constitutional rights while in their service. So, if an enemy from a foriegn country is fighting the US why do they get the civil and constitutional rights of american? Just a question. ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

I had to pick some one to respond to, but I am not picking on you bill. I just hit respond... Anyway, I think Mich is on to something. If you read the article carefully, and the DoD's response, they are clearly implying the was Old news, and there is New news. I have heard, but will not back up because I need to find my sources that the "New" information is NOT nessesarily "Innacurate" but instead just unsubstanciated. Which means it isn't "Not true (sorry double negative) But instead it is not backed up. If it is at some time proven that there is a definate link between SH and UBL/AQ Does that mean then that people who watch Fox News are actually MORE informed thatn those who don't??? Bill, Kallend? Really though... I don't believe there is a 9/11 link to SH, but I do definately believe there is a UBL->SH link. "My Enemies enemies are my friends!" PS- I didn't spell Check... I refuse to. ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

Ok, so you complain about ebonics... I do too. But hey, even if I spell incorrectly, at least I don't pronounce incorrectly (In most cases) Yo! Chris ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

I sent a letter. Unfortunately one of them will go to Mrs. Clinton, which basically means she won't do shit about it. Since she hasn't done anything since she has been in office. Chris ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

LOL .... I especially like the "Astro Glide" comment. What's wrong with spelling incorrectly? No one complains about ebonics, but proper spelling and grammar in an online thread .... Jesus! ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

From a gallup poll in 2000. (Link To a web site below): Some Conclusions: 68% of republicans felt there was a media bias. 28% of republicans felt there was no bias. 40% Democrats felt there was a bias 49% democrats...No bias. "Democrats were much less likely to perceive Bias" Why??? (IMO) If the media is bias toward the left, and your views happen to be slightly left, it makes it difficult for you to realize there is a bias. Mainly because you and the media tend to agree more in ideology. "The researchers used telephone interviews with a randomly selected national sample of 1,012 adults, 18 years and older, conducted December 2-4, 2000. Gallup said that for results based on this sample, one could say with 95 percent confidence that the maximum error attributable to sampling and other random effects was plus or minus 4 percentage points. Gallup asked in 2000: "Which comes closer to your opinion: that the news media generally favor one political party over the other, or that the news media generally favor neither political party?" http://www.tvrundown.com/polbroka.htm ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

http://www.gallup.com/subscription/?m=f&c_id=13968 OK so I was wrong... 14% say it is to Conservative vs. 45% say it was too liberal. So, Majority rules. But Kallend will tell you you are an idiot if you believe it. But hey, Kallend is in the 14% bracket. I guess he isn't the one in the know. However, these liberal crazies I am sure will come up with some logic as to why this poll is wrong and why the media is actually right leaning... So, let it begin ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

Well, I see how it works now.... So when someone posted a poll taken on what Channels for news they watched, and then if they thought SH was connected to 9/11. That poll was OK. But when a poll which you don't agree with is taken, it must be bogus.... I get it. Chris ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

Really, I thought the average IQ was 110-115 ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

New Gallop poll is out Does the Media have a LIBERAL bias? 45% yes it has a liberal bias 36% it is right in the middle 15% unsure So, I will quote our good friend Kallend. Kallend is a proffesor, and I thought an itelligent guy until he made this statement a couple days ago. So, kallend I guess 45% of us are idiots, or ... let me guess GALLOP Polls are not accurate. ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

I found out the brother of my ex was arrested for an international drug ring (steriods) between Texas, Boston, and Korea . He is serving 15-20. That whole family was crazy...Serves them right!! ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

And to think... HALF of his money is going to the Scientology Whacko's... It's a shame he could give half to me. Chris ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

Well I do believe Iraq has WMD. They did before, they probably do now. Not finding any is no proof they are not there. I don't believe the Uranium deal w/Africa. I think the Intell there had a few holes, and there was a lot of speculation. So, why do capitalist support liberal media??? Because they're capitalist looking to make a profit! If sex sells, they will put that on the air too. Violence etc.... It doesn't matter what their ideology is, they are looking to make a buck. Jennings, Brokaw, Rather, Rose ... All media Elitists, all admittedly liberal. Theses guys run the evening news programs with little if any input from ownership. They all pretty much get what they want. That goes for righties like O'Reilly too. They are given pretty much full control over their programs due to their long tenure and political connections. You don't have to believe it my friend, but Show me a Big Bussiness Capitalist who is doing the right thing instead of Making a buck. (Not that I am saying being conservative is "the right thing" what I am saying is, do what they believe in vs. making money) Chris ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

You never fail. Kallend is a prime example of a major problem here people. He works at a University where pretty much everyone is a lefty. He surrounds himself with lefty people all day. So, what Kallend views as middle of the road, a middle of the road guys sees as a lefty radical. So the media, which slightly leans left he sees as middle of the road. And, Slightly leaning right media like fox to him seem as exremely right... THis happens all the time. Sorry, but your claim of it being a myth is, an Opinion and a biased one at that. Chris ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

I guess we know what clay's new job really is then!!! ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

Alright!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good Fuck'em all.

The ACLU are terrorists.... Oh, I didn't mean to highjack this thread. ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty