ltdiver

In battle there are indeed unknown risks that soldiers go in to, by order of their higher command. They don't question in, they trust and go. They, the soldiers, are not diminished by it. In a demo, work related or not, military or not, there are known risks that PRO rated skydivers are trained how to judge beforehand and make decisions for themselves and their safety. In war--go means GO! This is not the same thing. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

Have to watch us quiet ones, huh! ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

coodo's to redramdriver for successfully doing a search and reviving my 2 year old thread!

Maybe it's not the wing suit design changes so much as it is the conditions in which it will be flown. Like right now here in SoCal the winds are howling outside. About 40+ mph I'd guess. Now, we all know that to slow down the vertical speed the horizontal speed must increase. What if the successful WS pilot were to jump in gale force winds? He'd be able to slow down his vertical speed and his horizontal speed would be countered by the head wind he'd be facing. Hmmmmmm...... ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

Reading on the rec.skydiving threads I posted.... He chose to have his leg amputated because the knee was so damaged they had to fuse it straight. He believed that having a prosthesis that would flex at the knee would be better than his real leg with a straight knee. It was his decision to have it done. It was not a medical necessity...was not life threatening. Speaking as a physical therapist who works with amputees all the time, I'd have to speak with Nigel and read his medical records to find out if he made the right decision. Personally, I know quite a few awesome surgeons who possibly could have saved his leg -and- made it functional. Amputation is of LAST resort. An AKA (above knee amputation) is a very difficult malady to get around with. Just ask the members of POE. One prefers to have a fused shaft as a leg, rather than deal with an unstable knee situation that will flex sometimes without warning. The other has a "C-Leg" that is computerized and makes his life almost as normal as you and I. However, the "C-Leg" is extremely expensive and very few people have one. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

Even wuffo's come up to me and speak in awed tones about 'what they had heard is going to happen soon', when speaking about this stunt. Should I burst their bubble and state the facts I believe? Or just let them prattle on and nod? Depends on my mood at the time... ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

I have a similar set-up as quade's. Only I have one d-box anchored directly to the helmet and a Stroboframe beside it for either a 2nd video camera, or one of my still cameras. Works great and is easy to change set-up between quick turn-arounds for either team, school, or specialty flying. No extra strap needed except the one that holds the d-box closed. The Stroboframe holds it on tight enough. No problem. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

Jump Shack did its fair share of team sponsorship through the years. The Russian military teams all had Racers just a few years ago, for example. Think SunPath stepped up to the plate and is now the top sponsor of teams these days. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

How 'bout "Slot Perfect"... ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

Are we still talking about shopping? ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

Ever see the movie, "Supersize Me"? Yes, you'll feel sick...at least by the 3rd day. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

I know Jeb. Was there his first year of learning to fly. Jeb is just crazy enough to try and do this stunt. However, don't think he'll walk away from it. Sorry my friend. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

Some more interesting reading on rec.skydiving back in 1999, after the incident. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

and And he couldn't make that decision for himself? Stay in the fucking plane, or land out. Asshat. To add to that...he was the director of that jump! The one leading the way! Shouldn't he, then, be sueing himself? ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

Thanks for the picture! Sure alot better than the one that came with the original article. Wonder if Jump Shack knows they have a bit of free publicity there!

Posting this in the Speakers Corner because I believe this will be getting some heat with the replies. I'm sure that there is more first hand information on this incident, for we all know that the news wire can get things -really- out of context. However it appears that this lawsuit is real. IMO, a PRO skydiver (one who is PRO rated and has demonstrated the judgement to have properly been awarded this distinction) should take complete responsibility for his/her actions. NOT blame someone else for their screw up. As it appears to be the case, if this article is correct in its perception. http://icbirmingham.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/mail/tm_objectid=14925372&method=full&siteid=50002&headline=skydiver-to-sue-over-leg-horror-name_page.html "Skydiver to sue over leg horror Nov 29 2004 By Tony Collins, Evening Mail An RAF skydiver who lost a leg after a charity parachute jump at Villa Park went disastrously wrong has launched a compensation bid. Ex-Flt Sgt Nigel Rogoff had his left leg amputated above the knee after crashing into the Trinity Road stand and plunging 80ft to the ground in 1998. The gruesome collision at half-time in an Aston Villa vs. Arsenal game was witnessed by 40,000 spectators in the ground - and millions of television viewers. Mr Rogoff, who was dressed as Father Christmas for the fateful jump, is suing the Ministry of Defence for negligence. But the MoD is strongly contesting the claim, which will now be heard at the Royal Courts of Justice in London. It is understood that the former RAF officer, who moved to live in South Africa last year, is seeking compensation of more than £50,000 for personal injury. The basis of his claim is that the jump should never have taken place because winds at the stadium were gusting at between 20 and 25mph, well above the safety limit for parachuting. Mr Rogoff had to be given more than 170 pints of blood in a city hospital. An MoD spokeswoman said today: "Mr Rogoff is suing the Ministry of Defence for a claim of negligence, but we consider claims for compensation on the basis of legal liability. "In this case, following investigations, we do not believe we have a liability. Therefore, the case is proceeding to trial." Mr Rogoff, a veteran of nearly 6,000 jumps, was leading the RAF Hawks Display Team on the jump into the Aston Villa ground when a gust of wind seemed to push him on to the stand. As well as losing his leg, his pelvis was smashed, both hips were shattered and several ribs were broken. The claim will be heard within the next few weeks. tony_collins@mrn.co.uk" ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

How nice that the land down under's sister brings us a first...a postage stamp that boasts skydiving! http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/BU0412/S00033.htm ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

Tennis shoes and ace wrap the ankle. As some people have already posted, they used to wear boots with rounds to protect the ankle. What they didn't tell you was that with hard landings that had forward speed (think squares here) the high stiff boots were more likely to break the tib/fib just above the boot instead of just give you a sprained ankle. That, along with the metal open loops that could snag lines, were the reasons that boots were replaced when sport skydiving was born. You want the flexibility that softer shoes have, but the support that an ace wrap, or high lace tennis shoes, can give. Better to have the stretch than the break. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

Really?!? It was beautiful (COLD) blue skies overhead at my house this morning. Dark clouds rolled in by the afternoon, making me wonder if I should climb down off my roof where I was hanging Christmas lights, before the rain started. Luckily it isn't raining (yet), but the clouds sure look foreboding. Think it might snow again tonight! This winter sure is weird around here this year... ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

I hadn't eaten at a Subway for a couple of years...until this week. Went by one near where I work and was surprised at their menu addition. A "veggie patty" sandwich! It was really good!! And this coming from a life-long vegetarian who KNOWS how to cook (just doesn't like to, much). Oh, and about the beer being vegetarian...I gained at least 10 pounds over the past 3 years since I started drinking the stuff on weekends. So, beer = weight gain! ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

Hemet closed down. Parachutes over Palm Springs (POPS) is actually in Palm Desert at the Bermuda Dunes Airport. It was taken over by another operator after Jamey Woodward left. Not sure exactly what the status is there now, but last I heard Albert Champagne was running it by appointment only (tandem operation). ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

Before I had a digital camera that is exactly how I imported images to my computer. Then I did THIS to clean them up for viewing. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

Do your angels have wings, mounted there? ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

Now that's pretty funny. TI's need a few laughs now and then!

Exactly what I was getting at. They make a profit, thus are able to keep their doors open. There are some people on this forum who believe that tunnel owners make a HOARD of money (and actually hate the owners for it...wanting them to drop prices and 'play nice'). Yet, you and I know that their profit margin is not that large and they really -can't- do that or they'd go under. That is what my original post is all about when I replied to Zoter. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon