Ron

I bet you think its a good idea to teach flying in a Pitts also... Like I said...You don't even HAVE a rating. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Well to use the same tricks you do...#1 he is NOT Kerry. I would not trust Kerry to be my dog catcher. But I LIKE Bush because he did what he thought was right based on the intel he had at the time. I think he is a trustworthy person, who says what he thinks, and does not play to the polls like Kerry. He has ONE side to his choices. He thinks about the issue and makes a choice. And lives with that choice. (Unlike Kerry who changes his mind to whatever is popular at the time). You don't know what he listend to...You only can guess. I am willing to bet he listend to both sides and went with the one he thought was best for the country. I am sure he head comentary that opposed the opinion he made. I like that a guy makes choices rather than sits around doing nothing about a situation for eight years. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

And Im not willing to sit around and do nothing when a proven bad guy continues to do bad things while ignoring the conditions of his probation. Because he does not flop around like Kerry...Ya know the For war/Against war guy? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Why did you say no? But vote yes? I am asking in General. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Well sittinga round for 12 years didn't do anything did it? I mean you seem to forget that if Saddam had actually COMPLIED then we had no issue. And yeah, you guys were possibly right in hindsight. I can get someone to flip a coin, I can call heads...You can call tails....If one of us gets it right it only means that was the way it went. If you claim no WMD's and I claim that they had enough intel to make a good guess, so I thought they were correct.... Well in both cases one of us will be right and one wrong. So its not like you had any special powers or knowledge. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Vote unlike what Saddam's people could do. If enough people agree with you then you win. Easy and fair huh? In Iraq Saddam would have killed you if you made that suggestion. Thats because you are not willing to have an open mind. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

OK booties for students. For the sake of argument, student will be anyone still under supervision such as still doing AFF or in the Static line program. NOT under the coaching program yet...Still under Instructors. As always there way be the few cases where a guy with tunnel, or just a natural comes along, but I am talking in GENERAL. Edit please give a reason like SM1 did. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

For a FJS its a bad idea. It will make the leg inputs much more critical. Like learning to fly ina pitts special. No but his reasoning was quite bad...Because they will fly with them anyway: 1. Not everyone uses booties. 2. Then I guess we should start them all off on HP canopies then huh? No, but: 1. I AM a skydiving instructor, which you are not. 2. I have been told, "Oh God, Oh God...Yes" by many females. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

And the inspectors in 95 United Nations Special Commission, or UNSCOM found WMD's.... So what did he do with them? They told Charles Duelfer the head of that group that they had them. Where did they go? It weas SH job to tell us what he did with them...He didn't. You need to look up "liar". If you say something and you think it is the truth it is not a lie, but a mistake. I will grant you it looks like the Admin thinking Iraq had WMD was a mistake. But for it to be a lie they had to know that there were not WMD there. So I can say it looks like they were wrong, but you can't prove they lied. And there is a big difference between being wrong and being a lair. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I still have not seen any PROOF. So nice try yourself. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Yep, but no one has to care. And you KNOW this based on your secret clearence and having looked at all the data yourself? Fact is you don't, that you have grabed on to a mindset and refuse to consider anything else. Like I said before, Sad "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I have not see you provide one bit of PROOF anything has changed. Definitions very rarely change anyway. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

None of this changes the fact that you were wrong at your own game. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

It is not different it is an enhancement. Well if thats your thinking then you should put Velocities in your student rigs also. I mean they will eventually get the also right? There is a large number of jumpers that will never need booties. But feel free to do as you please. It will do nothing but make leg inputs more effective and that includes that bad leg inputs.... I hope your students enjoy the Velocities. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

How did this involve you at all...Oh thats right it DIDN'T. you just felt like jumping in (Again) and throwing some of your old retoric around (Again). Sad John, sad. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Try adjusting for winds, or lead her a bit more. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Booties is the worst thing you can do to a student. They already don't know what their legs are doing, so you want to make it THAT much more critical? And THAT is the difference. Without that tunnel time it would have been stupid to use booties. Thats due to your time in the tuunel, NOT the booties. Tunnel again...You DO have more than double the FF time than someone with your jumps. That does NOT mean that everyone is going to be prepared. That is silly, but I would not let a student use them till they were around 20 jumps or so. Big Fucking Deal...Does not mean you know squat about SKYDIVING. Number of jumps is a GREAT indicator of skill...Not the end all be all. But about the best we got. You think an E3 knows as much as an E7? Same thing. The fact you took Martia Arts does say that you should have less problems with what your legs are doing than an average guy... It is the Tunnel time and your training that made the difference (Tunnel more than MA)..But that DOES NOT mean that its a good idea to jump with booties as a student. Gee so a guy tries to help, but you know more than him (Or so you think) so you are gonna beat him? Remind me never to help you. Your 120 SL jumps does not mean anything when it comes to freefall. I know cause I have 32 of them myself, and 3300 SKYDIVES, Skydiving Instructor ratings, Placed in the top ten in Open twice, Won Intermediate 8way, PRO rated, was on a Military Demo team...In fact I used to teach for the 82d team, helped SF soldiers prepare for the Challenge course in Yuma...ect. Just cause you may have been top shit in the 82d does NOT transfer to skydiving. Like I said if you are the type of guy that tends to threaten folks that try to help you...Don't ask me for any help...I don't need that stupid shit. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Oh snap....Got him at his own game....Thats gotta smart. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Thank you...I a both a competitor and a regional judge (well I have all the paperwork done for the rating...I just have to stop being lazy and have a picture taken). I have judged meets before in both 4 and 8way. So I DO know some of the sub standard issues that judges have to deal with. For the most part I don't complain about judges...However this 12 issue has gotten out of hand. At different meets the judges want different things. I don't have a problem with the technique used by Majic or the other top teams. I base this off of: 1. The vidiot is now a Member of the team. So he should be allowed to help show it to the judges. 2. Center point infractions are based off of video angle. Angle can make a good 12 look bad, or a bad 12 look good. The easiest fix is to throw the damn block out...And I know several people that have sent that request up the chain to see if anyone listens. However I think the judges are missing some very basic part of their duties...They need to tell us what they want then hold us accountable. Saying things like SHOW it to me, and INTENT. Are not good enough with problem blocks like this. Again the best thing is to ditch the block. It is fun, but a pain to prove. I am shocked that a FF team would be allowed a Camera rejump.... Equipment malfunctions are not grounds for a rejump...Otherwise the US CF team should have been allowed a rejump on the round they scored a zero due to a member having a mal. Again, I don't have the facts...But several questions have been rasied (as always happens at these meets) Some of the answers we have been given thus far have fallen way short. But I thank the judges for their time and effort....I just want to see better communication BOTH ways. This is the main reason I am working on my judging ratings. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Well my doppelganger was in the same place as me at the same time...And I was somehow caught in the same place wearing the same clothes at the same time...Well I guess. Well then that would not meet all the criteria like I had said now would it? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Which means if it was from pre 91 that someon had to process it...Again we gave it to Iraq...So... Well never mind no point in pointing out stuff to you taht does not fitinto your thoughts....Kinda exactly what you claim Bush did... Now thats funny. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

How is it irrelevant? You claimed that Bush was not taking care of the Average person? I counter claimed that Kerry does not either, and he would not know an Average American if they hit him in the head. Edison took 1,000 tries to make a light bulb...You consider him a failure also? And I find that the bleading heart left are more than willing to give other peoples money away. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Well if the critera he laid out was met. 30 witnesess on video...Hell I don't see to much of a problem. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

see you would rather hold to your thougths no matter what...so whats the point in talking to you? Does Woodward have a secret clearance? Keep guessing Bill. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

So you are guessing....Thanks I thought you had a crystal ball or something. But they are working for right now right? Gee last I checked an obect in motion tends to stay in motion...So an economy that is headed down (Like the one old Georgie was handed by Clinton) needs to head up to get moving.....Given the Clinton downtrend,9/11 ect I think "W" is doing pretty good. Of course you will not agree. And how do you know that this is the wrong thing? How do you know that this is not the right course? You don't. I personally like the idea of not getting taxed to death by Kerry and his buddies. His 20 year voting record has shown him to one of the biggest tax raisers around. Also his extreme left voting has shown me that all he wants to do is give the money he takes from me away. Add in the fact that he is willing to basicly give control of the US armed forces to the UN... That spells "dangerous asshole" to me. And Kerry does not want to help the "average" American either. He is not a man of the people with his 26,000 worth of ties and him not even knowing about Wendy's... Most Average Americans would eat at Wendy's, not throw the food away. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334