Ron

Did I say that? Nope. No I am saying he says he supports the troops, but then thinks that it is more important to stop the tax breaks than to support the troops. So what I am saying is that he makes bad choices that are not in line with what he says he will do. He would rather kill a tax cut and let our troops die...Thats fucked up. He would rather kill a bill that will make it so you can't sue a gun compnay out of business than allow off duty cops to carry, punish criminals more for using certain types of bullets, and extend the Assault weapons bill. So he claims to support our troops, but he put our troops in danger to raise taxes. Not the guy I want leading the troops if he puts money over their safety. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Does not matter once you make a choice you are either for or against it. And thats what you and I were discussing. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Who said that? I said you are either for or against something, and you are, unless you are Kerry). Sure and once you make that choice you will be either for or against it. Simple as that. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

If her family wanted to end her life and she had wanted to not live like that I am OK with that. Im not saying we should just pull the plug on everyone. But I think people deserve the right to die if they wish. Funny you would think a group that suports abortion would also support the wishes of a woman to die. Different situations. Kerry has voted both ways on the same things. And ya know even if you want to call me a flip/floper...I don't care. Its a good thing I am not running for President then huh? Kerry has shown time after time that he puts his advancement in politics over everything else. Troop saftey and not supporting police are two biggies. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Nice try bill, but no dice. I didn't vote to kill the woman, then vote to stop the same act which is what Kerry does. Like I said: "Go fish!" "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

You just can't admit that Kerry says one thing and votes another based on small things You just cant accept the simple fact that Kerry would rather kill tax cuts than support the military. You can't accept the fact that Kerry would rather not extend the AWB, not punish criminals more for using certain types of bullets and would rather police not be allowed to carry, just so he an sue gun companies out of business. Really stupid choices, and the people are starting to see that. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Thats your right, but it does not change the simple fact that you are wrong. For living. Against in that situation. See for or against. Not both. None of this changes the FACT that unless you are John Kerry you are for or against a subject. For people living. Against people living as a vegtable if they don't want. Two seperate situations. Two different views on them. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

In the mean time screwing the troops...Good choice. No coments on the original bill I posted? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

New Hurricane forcasted for US That is NOT funny. Well ok maybe a little. Next time warm a brother its a damn joke though "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I put the whole bill recap on there. He voted No on it. No to allowing Gun companies the same protection as he is saying he wants to give Dr's and Hospitals. No to putting the Assault weapons ban back in for 10 years. No to hitting criminals who use armor rounds harder. No to allowing off duty cops to carry weapons. So in this case you can say that he would rather allow gun companies to get sued than outlaw assault weapons, punish criminals more, and allow police to carry off duty. It is along the lines of his famous "I voted for the 87 billion...Before I voted against it." thing. Where it was more important for him to vote against tax cuts that to protect our troops. The really interesting thing is what will cause a Senator to vote against a bill that has all kinds of good things in it. In the 87 Billion case it was he hated tax cuts so much that he would rather our troops go without body armor... On this one he wants Gun companies to be unable to file banckruptcy without paying suits, than ban assault weapons for 10 years, punich criminals more, and allow off duty police to carry. That says TONS to me. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

In your opinon only. Fact is simple, you are either for or against anything. (Unless you are Kerry, then you can be for and against) And again it is just your opinion anyway. It seems most of the US is not on your side. You don't know me at all. You only think you know me based off of a personal situation between us. I do support force when it is needed, and served in the Army to be a part of that force if need be. I consider my Army time as a selfless service to the country, you don't agree..Thats your right. Still you have not shown how politics alone without the threat of force does anything in a global perspective. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

No, he was to busy being GOV of Texas and PRESIDENT. Maybe he AGREES with Congress? Oh the horror! You only veto things you don't like. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

We should let history decide. He was in doubt at the time also... Like I said I will wait for history to make the final call. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Oh I have an idea........ Thundering Mojo? Mojo Thunder? It IS all about the name after all. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

You sir, are no Dana Carvey "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

It was unnecessary for the NAZI's to attack. But it was VERY necessary to defend and fight back. No amount for love would have gotten Hitler to stop killing Jews and invading other countries. Or do you think a "love fest" would have stopped him? Funny you bring up Ghandi, a guy that did what he though was right even when others thought he was wrong. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I liked Lieberman. But Kerry...It adds fuel to the rumor that the DNC wants Kerry to lose so that Hillary has a chance in 2008 "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery. What can I say, I have a job that pays really well, that I do really well, and have a lot of free time at. Sorry. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

So without the force, nothing would have happend right? WOW, I didn't know you could read minds!!!! "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

So he is for suing gun the gun industry...But against suing the medical industry for the same thing? He voted NO to extending the assault weapons ban? And NO on backgroung checks? He voted NO on higher penalties from criminals? And he will not let officers concealed carry? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I could not hear you John...The sound of flip/flops coming from your candidate drowned you out "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Don't be stupid...I don't tell them that. Just like you don't go around saying Kerry Flip/Flops. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Everyone I have shown this to is AMAZED at the fact that anyone does not think Kerry flip/flops. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Not to mention that he will claim that it is not a flip/flop and that while he said he does not boink he supports the rights of others to boink. He will also ignore that the fact he has kids is proof of him boinking. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Damn dude did you just cut and paste my earlier post? http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1273041#1273041 Sep 29, 2004, 2:16 AM You spend WAY to much time reading my posts....You have them on a quick reference file or something? I feel like I have my own stalker "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334