Ron

Its your opinion that it is the wrong place. It is mine that while not perfect he has a better plan than Kerry. Kerry wishes to give our military to the UN. Saying that he will not use our military unless approved by the UN. The UN is the LAST place I want my military choices made. Bush also makes a choice and leads. Kerry waffles around never making a clear choice, at least not one he stays with. I'd rather have a leader that leads, than a leader that flip/flops around and never does anything. Or worse does one thing then another. Lets take an example from Kerrys choices. "I voted for the 87 million, before I voted against it". Yes, I know that he voted against the tax breaks part of the bill the second time... So eliminating tax cuts is more important than supporting our troops, and providing them with the tools they need to be safe? Thats a stupid fucking choice. And it is just one of them he has made in his 20 years as the most liberal voting senator. Support the reasons we went to war or not..(Kerry has done BOTH), support our men and women over there no matter what. I am not surprized that Kerry abandoned our troops. He has done it before. http://www.streamload.com/jmstein77/kerry2.mp3 http://r.pm0.net/s/c?29e.af76.3.6hf7.12w "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

And that is due to the conservatives keeping the liberals in check....Just as the liberals have kept the conservatives in check. My little play could happen if liberals went unchecked. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

The problem with Kerry is he never makes up his mind. I like a leader to lead...Not change his mind every other day. Of course who would not like a guy that agrees with you 100% at least half the time? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

And without the other side of the coin. Joe Liberal wakes up. He goes to get water for his morning tea. But he has to go out to a well and bring the bucket up. He goes to turn on his stove to heat the water, but the electric company was run out of business when they could no longer burn fosil fuels to create electricity. So Joe Liberal has to make a fire. He is suffering from some ailments...But he does not know what problems he has since the Dr.s have all been run out of business. He needs medication, but no one makes them anymore now that the drug companies were run out of town. Joe liberal has to go slaughter his own pig for food since he is one of the few people who stll eat meat. Joe walks out side and the air is clean...Now that the nasty conservitives have been told they can no longer have cars. Joe has to walk to work since buses create polution. But since Joes only job is to grow herbal teas he only has to walk to his garden. Of course his garden is in shambles since pesticides have been outlawed for the good of man. Joe gets mugged walking back to his house. The police could have stopped the robber, but since they are now unarmed they don't have the power to stop anyone. And the lawsuits have made it so that the police are afraid to stop anyone...And they can't anyway since it is illegal. I could go on...but I think you get the point. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

didn't know that. Does the eurotrain only go from the UK to France? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

He had the oportunity to defend the troops...He voted not to. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Kerry said he would spend as many BILLIONS that was needed to defend the US and our troops. But he does vote both ways. Man that guy is funny. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Now the picture of all of Kerry's advisors all flip/flopping around...THAT is funny. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

A lot of people have thrown their opinions in... So, now I will. You are in SA....That means that the tunnel will be VERY expensive with airfare, hotels...The Rand/Greenback exchange rate. Given that, I would say you would be better to jump more. Jumping makes you an all around better jumper. You can't practice canopy flight unless you are under canopy. You can't really practice swooping, or tracking in the tunnel. Tunnel is GREAT for advancing your RW skills. If you can afford it it is a great tool to use. However, you will get more bang for your buck by jumping a lot right now. I do know a few tunnel rats that can fly circles around me, but have been hurt several times under canopy. I like the tunnel, I use it (Over 100 hours) and I coach in it (tunnel camp Oct 23-24 in Orlando). But, it is not THE answer to jumping. You miss a lot by not skydiving. Visuals for one. So, if you need to train, or are in a hurry to get RW skills. Try a tunnel camp. If you are wanting to just be a good RW guy. And all around better jumper. Jump more. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Not bad logic. However you seem to think Kerry is going to do anything different. He will not. Instead of giving tax breaks to people who work, he will instead take away the tax breaks and give that money away to people who refuse to work. Also, the tax cuts DID stimulate the economy. We were going into a major dip in the economy when Clinton handed the country to GWB. And a major terrorist attack did slam the economy even worse. So GWB did reverse the downward trend, and stop a crash. Now we at least have time. Kerry will just give the money away. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I am not going to discuss anything with anyone whos best defense is to call someone names. Thats really mature. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

So you can't defend so you go to name calling? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Not funny...Sad really. How can ANYONE not see that Kerry is an idiot that flip/flops? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

No the sad thing is if it had been a picture of a fishing pole, or golf clubs it would be OK...But since it was a picture of a guy with an unloaded gun in a harmless carry position it is a big deal. The sad thing is that even though it was not against any rule, it was removed based off of some cry baby. The funny thing is no one is up in arms about the mascot with weapon of death, but are all pissed at a kid and a sport shotgun. You libs need to stick to one side of an issue...Either weapons are bad at school, or they are OK. Next you will want to remove meat from the cafeteria. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Your opinon only. You like double standards when they HELP you. Nope, its about a student wanting a picture of himself in the yearbook with a piece of sports equipment that he is known for. And some liberal cry baby nnot liking it since it is a firearm. Nope, he carries a lance. Which is also a weapon that you could not take to school...But it is representative of the school...It is more "Violent" than the pic of the student. Lances were not used for sport. The sad thing is you can't even admit that you are using a double standard. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Did you see a rule about not being allowed to have a picture of a gun? I didn't. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

You would cry about it if it was a liberal issue being censored. But since its a gun issue you are ok with it. Like I said, if they have a problem with pictures of guns...Then the history books have to go. And that mascot needs to be disarmed. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Then you had better remove the history books; they are full of guns. And the mascot should be disarmed...I mean we can't have a violent, armed mascot can we? If this had been some liberal issue that was censored, you guys would be up in arms about it. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Did you bother to read the article? Attached is a recreation of the picture. The kid in the picture is THE kid. How the hell is that picture violent? I mean I could understand if he was pointing the gun at the camera, or was holding the head of a human....But geeze get real folks. Its getting silly. Then they should remove the weapon from the mascot....That is inappropriate. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Right, but Marijuana is ILLEGAL. And that shirt would be making a stance on a political issue. PLUS, not one school I know of does not have a polocy about clothes. I have never seen a policy that says you can't have a picture of a gun in school....If there was then we would have to remove all the history textbooks. Yes it is...You just aprove of the choice the school made...It is STILL discrimination. A picture of a gun is not illegal. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

John Liberals are against guns in every way... They will even trash the right to free speech to trash and limit a persons right to weapons. This kid did nothing wrong and nothing illegal. Some pasty-faced, liberal, tree-hugger used a postion of power to impose his or her personal beliefs that guns are bad. Then the same type of tree-huggers defend the schools right to limit legal, free speech. These same tree-huggers would be up in arms if it was a liberal message that was censored. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

This post really pisses me off "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Both of the MAJOR ones ARE. WOW you should be lawyer...All those words just to cover your ass. You CLEARLY wrote that Kerry would not support a draft but Bush has not said that.... And Bush said EXACTLY that.. Sorry to confuse with facts PK. You may go about on your ignoring the facts way again. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Peep this G. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=838730#838730 Yall just don't know me. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

You are the one that made it partisan. YOUR stament about Kerry saying there will not be a draft, but ignoring Bush saying the same thing. Besides we all know that there could be "Complexities" that make Kerry "Re-evaluate" and then Flip-flop. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334