Ron

No offense, but I really doubt anyone will remember to disconect the RSL. I have never seen anyone do it. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Where did you get these numbers? I can tell you that they are in no way close to reality. If they were we would not have so much turn over of students. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I am not going to jump his shit till more info is known....I see others did not bother to wait for more info... "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

First you say: Then you say: So I guess then you feel the same about Clintons second Inauguration? And that was the question asked. I don't feel ANY second term prez needs a big second Inauguration....But I wonder if the Clinton lovers feel the same way, or if this is just another example of their hatred for Bush showing *again*. I doubt it as well. But I don't care either. I don't think ANY second term Prez needs a big party. But some are just showing hatred of the current Prez anyway they can. They should just back off, accept defeat, and enjoy a good party. Or at least allow those that supported him to enjoy one. I didn't bitch about Clintons second Inauguration. I agree, and I also think he had some very good ideas. But he was a corrupt person. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

How did you feel about Clinton? I think that ALL second terms should have a small inauguration. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

It worked. I had to talk to Leblanc when I tried to order a ST97 with < 500 jumps. He finally agreed to sell me a 107. I ended up buying a 120. That right there sold me on PD products. I often pay for a PD than jump another free canopy. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

And thats what we are asking for. We have a basic chart in place (Brians WL to jump chart) created by an expert canopy pilot and canopy designer. And we are saying that is the BASE. If you wish to procede faster than that base then there woudl be a practical test to show you can control the canopy at the top of your section of the chart (I have proposed the PRO test sinc eit is easy to administor, and is already in place...Plus ask anyone that has done it...It proves that you can fly a canopy). If you can pass the test you can proceded at whatever rate you can handle. But you would nto be allowed to pick any canopy and jump it just because you think you could handle it. Having and Instructor sign you off to downsize is perfect....But not likley to happen on a large scale without a BSR. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

YOU are responsible for YOU. THEY are responsible for THEM. If I don't like the spot/time between groups I don't go. PERIOD. If they don't like it they are free to exit in my place. I only leave the plane when I feel safe. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I get weird looks....Well I get weird looks anyway "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I had a jeep for a few years....I then bought a Mustang GT....I sometimes forget I am in the Mustang and do the wave to a Jeep ....I bet they think I am insane. Mustangs are not friendly like that. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Then you would be a VERY bad interrogation officer. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Yep that is THE answer. I would like to see a program in place that MAKES people get that education. And then PROVE they can handle and apply it before they are allowed to try. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

You are a smart dude....I'll jump with you anytime. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I am actually pretty sick of it. When I started (11 years, so Not that long) anyone with more jumps/experience than me was listened to. Today, these new "know it alls" don't listen to ayone unless the advice they get is what they want. I always figured that the first step in skydiving is to live so I can do it again....Keeping in those lines a guy with 4000 jumps knows more than me at 3300. So I tend to listen to those with experience. These new fucksticks don't seem to get that. They also seem to think respect is something people are supposed to given then, but they don't need to give to anyone else. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

There was plenty of bitching about the UN before the war. It just never made headlines. Get rid of it. Why add ANOTHER layer of politics? Does the UN do anything that countries can't do without it? No. AS for your list of good the UN has done....Most of it is them taking credit for stuff they didn't do. #2 says they help remove the soviets from Afganistan????? What? BS. The war took a large toil on the Soviets, the UN didn't do anything. "The United Nations has used quiet diplomacy to avert imminent wars.'' UH, they ignored SH and his killing of his own people and members sold items that were banned to SH. They did a pretty piss poor job there. Sudan....Yeah they are doing good there. Also as you said the UN is nothing more than the member countries. So they are nothing without the members. So why are they needed? They are nothing. Sure. I would have even been more willing if the UN had not fucked up in Iraq so bad by not enforcing, or even following, its own resolutions. The UN is just ANOTHER level of political BS. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

No, its not the same. The 20 year old didn't have to do anything to "pass". The 17 year old did. Thats what I am saying. Like I said...To late for me. (I am 18 when the law was passed). But the new guys will be affected. If you try to get something like this WO a "Grandfather" clause...It will not pass. sad but true. I however will do any test you want me to do. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Well if you know it is not to be taken literally....Then why are you bitchingabout it? Just to bitch? We are talking about the UN, you brought up Bush. I didn't like the UN long before Bush was in office. They do very little and what they actually do they need the US's power and money to acomplish. Such as????? What good is an organizaton that does not follow its own rules? Should not the UN be the one to do something? I mean the US gets bitched at no matter what it does. Also how long is the UN gonna wait to get involved? It has already been what 15 years of killing? They have not done shit about it...and they will contintue to do nothing. American companies, not the Americans on the UN council. BIG difference. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

OK this needs to be told: "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Even the Liberals form other countries consider the US President to be the Biggest guy on the block. Using that logic then the opinions of the liberals should not e considered since they hate Bush. And I don't like the UN since they don't do shit about anything. They pass resolutions then don't enforce them. They have done nothing about Sudan, and they were to busy lining their pockets with Oil money and selling blacklisted products to Iraq against their own rules. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Hey what do you get if you play techno music backwards? Techno Music "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

No, actually she was bitching about how she didn't care. Her Mom was also complaining. You might be projecting, but I am not. Some more info on the father: More info for you So the Father (who is a lawyer who argued the case himself...I wonder why?) Who does NOT have the right to speak for his daughter and that does not seem to care what the Mother or daughter feel about this... He is doing it so he can be a big man. He does not care about his daughter's feelings...He is doing it to be in the spot light, and using her as a pawn. He has More on this from the Girls Mom: The father is crazy. And a jackass using his girl as a pawn to become famous. Edit to add bits from the court papers: "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Virgin "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Depends on the tunnel and how much time you get. Skyventure Orlando it's 630/hr. 100/hr is what I charge...Some charge more. Bring a tape and it's free. A good thing to do is a camp. Airspeed has camps, my team holds camps. We charge 630/hr and 100/day coaching. A very fair rate. More info: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1314150#1314150 "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Then you remember Niklas suit blowing up on the Arm? Or how mine and Carlos's suit's knees blew out? Or how Carlos's zipper broke AT NATIONALS? My suit had less than 100 jumps, Carlos's suit had maybe 60. They may be good suits, and I will admit that I liked the design, but the quality of the materials and the construction was not very good. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Most people have no frame of reference for skydiving. NASCAR is big, but most people who watch it drive. Football is big, but most have run and thrown a football before. Very few folks have made a skydive and most of them were just tandems. People can't understand it, they can not relate to it. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334