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I'm sure you are amused by that time and time again but you could at least come up with some new material. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

I don't smoke weed anymore as I am a chief instructor and a drug test could take that away from me. No matter how many times you ignore the evidence and no matter how many bigots you get to agree with you, none of you are addressing the subject matter of this thread, you all ignore the evidence and continue on with the same bullshit. As the thread suggests, SHOW US YOU PROOF, otherwise you are just post whoring. It seems you are all foiled by this one, and as expected you ignore that also. You know what that makes you don't you....? Ignorant! "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

You really do like that strawman look don't you. I could take the time to lay out a word document and check the spelling. Or not. even though I cannot spell perfectly, and it more to do with my bad typing skills than spelling but anyhow... One fact still remains un acconted for, by you and other imbeciles that wish to defend the official myth. Nobody can show evidence of this composition existing any place, any time or any how before or after 9/11. You can look at dirt all you like, but IT DOES NOT ADDRESS THE FACT THAT NANO THERMITE EXISTS, AND IT EXISTS IN THE DEBRIS OF 9/11, AND THIS PROVES EXPLOSIVES WERE USED. You can ignore that all you like, but in doing so you are not using the scientific method, and you are being ignorant. How abot you show us an example of how you can find these compositions in plain old dirt and compare them the photgraphs of the nanothermite. Bill tried and failed miserably, he is only lying to himself if he thinks that his silica rich (hollow) spheres are anything like the residue of an alumino thermitic reaction. yet I'm sure that somehow he can continue his argument using ignorance also. Ignoring facts is ignorence in it's purest form. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

you come to some very childish concusions to make a point about nothing. you have words, I have evidnce, you ignore, and call names, I address and answer questions. you are quite childish for an old lady. is that normal in your kneck of the woods? "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

haha, they have iron in them but are not iron rich, they are hollow and contain mostly silica and are used to reduce weight. This is once again a straw man argument as the iron rich speres found by steven jones and co. are a byproduct of the thermitic reaction. If the speres were the only evidence for thermite you may be onto something, but as there is actual unreacted thermite as explained and acknowleged by you above, but then you go head and ignore that (again), you ignore that the iron rich speres look nothing like your Cenospheres that you cite, and you are aware of this as you frantically search for an excuse to avoid the inevitable, or you just simply ignore it. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Maybe so Bill, but what is the explanation of your glass spheres that are supposed to be evidence that nano thermite can be constructed during the 'destruction' of a building. you are not going to get away with the pathetic attempt odf an explanation that easily. you said iron spered were produced by the coal plant down the road and you gave us links and photos of glass speres. you said these compounds are found everywhere, yet you have no proof. Try reading the title of the thread bill, then come back to me with your theories of how science changed on that day. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

ha ha, once again a nonsensical and ignorant comment, using straw man techniques. You are well aware of corruption but you are willing to ignore it when it suits you. foolish, but that is your perogative and you are welcome to it. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Nows whos the conspiracy nut, eh? I do not discredit what you are saying, in fact I am inclined to beleive itm but i have not studied it enough. I am just amused that you are liely to get the same type of reaction to this as i am to my 9/11 posts. It intrigues me that you can be aware of the extent of the corrupt and cunning ways of blackwater and the other private military contractors, yet you are too oblivious to beleive that 9/11 was a false flag event to empower such entities. You are aware of blatant corruption and misuse of power yet you are just as willing to ignore it. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

bullshit, there is tons and tons of the stuff in a landfill on sttan island, it has been sifted for human remains under strict security, and no family men=mers are allowed even a sample of the dust for emitional reasons. usually such events are 'destructive' rather than 'construcive' so one would have to prove that an event like that is capable of constructing such a composition before one would be expected to prove that it didn't. Common sense will tell you how extraordinarily unlikely it would be for a compostion if nano engineered subsatnces to form in a such a destructive collapse. The answer is simple, how would islamic terrorists gain access to the buildings to plant the explosives without Stratesec and Ensec, along with E.J. Electric and Electronic Systems Associates being complicut by neglegence? this would put the powers that be into question at a time that they needed the trust of the population in order to get into these wars that they had been planning for so long. If you can ask how the substance can be planted and that there needed to be such a vast amount of it, can you tell me why so much explosived must be needed to make the buildings collapse when you are also trying to say that is it reasonable to expect them to collapse with no explosives at all? And why is it so impossible for anyone to gain access to the buildings that the use of pre planted explosives was never looked at? NIST says the reason is that there was not enough sound to suspect explosives but the guidelines for investigating such events clearly stipulates that explosive residues MUST be looked for. If they can infiltrate the air defense system of the pentagon, how is it so hard to beleive that explosives could be planted in civilian buildings? it is not, but the officials want the use of explosives to be a 'silly idea' so people like you will continue to defend them and thier murdurous ways. Why do you defend such fraudulent documentation and officials? Do you acknowledge the existence of corruption and if so, what is your opinion on the extent of corruption? Are all government departments squeaky clean? all large multinational comapnies with military contracts? no corruption there either? why is corruptipn so easily ignored? "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

so now glass is the same as iron? haha what is the point of your stupid attempt to prove nothing? it was certainly amusing to see that, but what did it prove? that you have nothing, only words. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

These are all questions that need to be answered, unfortunately the powers that be do not allow access to the evidence and the only samples are donated by those that were thoughtful enough to take them. Many of the people doing this research were with the general consensus that the government would investigate the events and find out and publish the answers to these questions. after a number of years there are still no answers, the lack of investigation from the government has driven these people to do the work themselves. For now we have samples from various places around Manhattan of this composition and its by products in abundence, in the dust from the calloaspe for the 3 wtc Buildings. Unfortunately the government investigation was never performed, only a bogus, dry labbed, building perfomance report that origionally omitted the collapses themselves so this dust was never part of the equation there, only the fable that fire would poise the buildings for such and imminent collapse, which by the way is absurd. The theory of controlled demolition was contrived by observation, building 7 for example looked precisely like a controlled demolition. This evidence came to be, years later when people got tired of waiting to the governmnt to do it , and woke up to the idea that they are being lied to. they got samples and access to an electron microscope etc etc. the NIST report is contradictory. it mentiones the freefall acceleration (because truth activists forced them to with god old basic science) but does not explain it. As explained above, you cannot expect an obvious hypothesis to be ignored when you start looking for evidence. when you are asked to prove your assertion, you cannot be expected to ingore the observations and theories you have had up until that time. the who dunnit question is asked in every interview of every truth ativist and the only reason that questions is asked by those that wish to prop up the official stroy, it to try to get the truth activst to 'blame someone' so a straw man argument can be made of that. Forst we muct look at the evidence, then we must investigate it, then we will get answers to who was invloved. Follow the money. who gained, and who lost? I have explained before how this material could have been planted, if you look into the companies called Stratesec and Ensec, along with E.J. Electric and Electronic Systems Associates, who owned them and how the owners of those companies benifited from the attacks then you should answer your own queston. But you have to be willing to look, are you? Carlyle, Kissinger, SAIC and Halliburton: A 9/11 Convergence "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

they are now closed, the planes reposessed, closed. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Those nice big windows on the left side cargo doors look great. they are also a defining feature it that plane shows up with a paintjob somewhere. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Now you use straw man techniques and ignroence to try to discredit and distract from the subject. If your are right, can you please provide me evidence that similar occurences of this composition as explained in detail in the paper with photographs from a microscope have existed eleswhere ANYWHERE, ANY PLACE or ANYTIME. And provide links to the source. Not individual components but in red grey chips. You are lying to yourself, to me and to everyone if your beleive these red grey chips are simple rust from the building. You can say all you like, but you cannot show us any evidence. I challenge you to, for the sake of your integrety. Your argument is getting really weak now. I have attached some more photographs of what you are saying is rust, and I further challenge you to show me similar photographs of what you are explaining. Here is the paper the photgraph came from to help you understand a little better, about how this is not rust in dirt, but something much more complicated. http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/thermite/thermitics_made_simple.html "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Ignoring evidence an manoevering around it, is ignorence. Changing the subject and arguing about irrelevant points to detract from the subject matter, is using a straw man argument. Try gong into a church and tell them you athiest point of view, are thay going to listen? are they going to use the same tactics you guys all use here?? Is that majority going to be against you? Nice try, but peer pressure doesn;t work on me. You have to prove your assertions, and weak ass experients made my billion dollar media networks whose owner is a signatory of the PNAC, ado not prove anything, straw man arguments and ignorence do not mean anything, refuting the facts is the only thing that means anything. All you are left with is; acknowleging the nanothermite and expalining its existence, or saying the eidence is planted then proving so. saying that the composition of a highly engineered substance is simple rust, would make it prevailent world wide, when this is the first many of us heve ever heard if it. and as for not replying to you, i was tired and though i was replying to skip belt. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

oops my bad, attached "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Youu really seem to be having trouble grapsing this composition. yes ferrric oxide is rust, and yes thermite, thermate and nano thermite are made with this product. but you are suggesting that the rust is from the steel structure, while ignoring that it is in a carbon matrix, mated with the other ingredients and is a volitile incediary which can be ignited with a lazer. or flame. you ignore, and ignoring evidence is unscientific. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

scratched record.... "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

haha, i mention a stack of jenga as a good indication of the path of gtreatest resistance. and you think I compare jenga to the wtc buildings. The someone posts a videpo af a giant stak a wood blocks falling 'over' and you applaude. You are about the poster not the subject and that is why I, for the most part, ignore your comments. You are like amazon, you just want attention and give nothing to a conversation. sad. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Yes, becaue the crima associted with it would dissapear and the only people that would get hurt by ot would b those silly enough to get involved in it. Do you think the crimes associated with meth and crack are due to the use of it, or the cost asssociated with obtaining it? It is pople that dolt have crack that commit crimes, not people that have easy access to it without financial difficulty. it is a harsh drug that destroys lives,but so is alcohol. you guys really do not now much about you own history do you? a few historical benifits some modern benifts. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

The problem with that theroy, is that there are photographs of these microsperes fused to the red grey chips as seen in this picture (attached) "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Once again straw man techniques; you mates at national geogrpahic ignore knowledge they already know, just as NIST know. There is a wealth of information on thermite used ofr demolition.a couple of examples; http://www.patentstorm.us/search.html?q=thermite+demolition&s.x=0&s.y=0&s=s http://www.freepatentsonline.com /7555986.html haha, Just watched the Nat Geo, presentation. These straw man tactics issued but the companies ownd by PNAC signatories are pathetic. Comparing commercial grade thermite to nano thermite is like comparing diesel to aviation gas. these straw man techniques may work on you, but they are far from conclusive. and the assertin that the twin towers are the most controversial aspect of the events is also a blatant lie. The lack of exposure of Building 7 by the MSM is the most contrvertial, lets see if bulding 7 is mentioned anywhere in that presentation... oh it made a cameo, for few seconds. lets look at the pseudo science used in that presentation. the thermite used in their experient was similar to that used in sparklers, sparklers have metal sticks that the product is bound to and it does not melt. The thermitic red chips the paper is about clearly point ou the nano sizes particles, and the use of sulpher to lower the tmperature needed to melt the steel. That expriment is like comparing a fire cracker to dynamite. The fire cracker does not blow up the letterbox so dynamit would not either. Stupid. next the projectile, they use wooden boards to represent the pentagon and scale it dowm significantly but they do not scale down the speed of the projectile... convenient. that experiment was very humerous but had no scientific merit. much like myth busters. now placing a steel i beam a fraction of the size of those found in the wtc, in an ope air environment, with absolutely no heat sink also is a mis representation of the fires withing the WTC complex. If you don't kow what a heat sink is then you should learn. NONE of those experiemts represented what happened on 9/11, and none of them took into consideration the difference between nano thermite and ordinary thermite. The controlled demolition team had no experience with thermite (leat alone nano thermite) and they were looking for similarities in their demolition when there was nothing in common with the way they set up. The reasoning of that production was not to prove anything by experiment, it was meant to discredit richard gage, DRG and Dylan to people of your ilk, as anyone that understands scuence would realise how flawed those experiments ALL were. haha a wooden pentagon, haha, seriously. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Once again, I am anything but uptight about this. i don't feeel the need to come and disturb your discussions with irrelevant points. So I suggest you stick to the suject matter or simply go away and tru to find someone that has the time for you. But you like to shit stir, and now Bill has given me a warning, it is obvious you are trying to provoke me into some sort reaction. You are wasting your time woman. I'm a cool as a cucumber and nobody has had anything but straw man arguments in this thead as the paper you ridicule is not refutable, uness one actually looks at the evidence themselves. Straw man arguments are not real arguments. They are megre attempts of those that use them to keep their integrety. The integrety they have pushed all in on the very people they spend the rest of the time trying to say are lyers in threads on other subjects? bizzare! "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

Once again a pathetic post related to nothing and with no meaning. At least you are consistent. Ignoring the facts and using strawman techniques "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

what the one about talking snakes, immaculate conception, imaginary friends and people that talk to themself before bed to ensure a lif in a supposed wonderland after death? Oh that is your progrm. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix