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Letter from the tandem manufactors over underage tandems
rhys replied to PhreeZone's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
This is not a one world government.... yet. So we still have the luxury of different laws and regulations to the USA, at present. I will play things by ear. I am not quite sure where you were going with that. Are you saying you beleive I could be dragged through a litigation with the manufacturer from here in NZ, or are you saying that you think I am ignoring what I have learned and that is bad or unwise? Thanks bro, I really appreciate that level of understanding, many people (including myself before) seriously underestimate the process. Comlience is very important now, so I am thinking about all this. We are comlient with our health and safety regulations and complient with the part 149 we operate under, we are also complient with the law, and even our music is royalty free... For now taking children skydiving is not against the rules here, so until that changes there is no need to change what we do. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix -
copyrights-infringement all over the place
rhys replied to virgin-burner's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
That is a going to be an increasingly important problem as less and less CD and online 'sales' take place, The music companies need thier coin from somewhere so... I'm glad I have good royalty free music to use, thanks to the realXstream editing program that I am using.. I have seen companies actually advertise for 'choose your own music' which I find is quite an magnet for legal problems. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix -
Letter from the tandem manufactors over underage tandems
rhys replied to PhreeZone's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
I take it you are taling about the USA? My skydiving company (here in NZ) has liabilty insurance, just paid the premium the other day. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix -
Letter from the tandem manufactors over underage tandems
rhys replied to PhreeZone's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
gee, what an injustice. I would pack up an move to a different country is i was a US based manufacturer, the liability in that case is just too much. It is just not reasonable to assume that nobody will ever make a mistake again. If that mistake can be blamed on the manufacturer even if it is not their fault then it is only reasonable to assume that it is only a matter of time before another lawsuit such as that is begun. Good luck and peace everyone. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix -
Letter from the tandem manufactors over underage tandems
rhys replied to PhreeZone's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
I have never claimed to understand the US legal system, what I do understand is common sense. Tony and Pops pointed out clearly that common sense does not prevail in the US legal system, I am not used to that. I am used to common sense. So my input to the conversation ends around here. I'll leave you guys to your clusterfuck that you call freedom and liberty. Just like the greedy theme parks like disneyland, gee how dare they endanger all those innocent children that don't have a clue about physics and engineering... As long as they fit the harness (that is the rules here), the 10 year old I took the other day was pretty close my limit. I really do not want to debate about this anymore, but... If a wingsuit manufacturer sells a wingsuit to an inexperinced jumper, there will still have to be a S&TA or some sort of supervision to allow the person to use the wingsuit. If they do not go through a S&TA or have any sort of supervision then they are breaking the rules and will not have an argument. And the DZ in question is breaking the rules and deserved to be sued, simple. That is how it work here in my country, that makes sense. It is common sense. Blaming a manufacturer for improper use of a product when there are clearly rules in place to make sure all people using the product are deemed experienced enough and/or rated to do so, is not sensible. But we have established that the US laws are not sensible, so.... I'll leave you to your clusterfuck you call freedom and liberty. When common sense and justice are removed from a society, that is a tragedy. When fear is installed instead of love, that is a tragedy. And when people are not allowed to do things thay would like to do and is within the law, that is a tragedy. The parents wanted the child to jump, the child wanted to jump, the child had fun, the child recommended it to the rest of his family on video and wanted to go again... Would you take a child on a roller coaster? Drive them on the freeway? Dont get me wrong, a child dying is always a tragedy, but it is less of a trgedy if they were doing something they wanted to do and were killed by a mistake that could have happened to any person of any age. What is more of a tragedy is a child being killed by a bullet. There are plenty of childern being killed by bullets and bombs (among other things) on a daily basis with your tax money, and those are largely ignored, so dont come to me with your moral high ground. I don't want to turn this into a political debate, but that is a very valid point, the conduct of the US legal system is increasingly criminal, yet you are trying to belittle me for following the rules that pertain to me and going about my business, just because 'you feel' I am braking some morals that you think are paramount. Well think again buddy, you pay for the deaths of many children, that is a tragedy. Like it or not, it is the truth. Shame on you. I will stick to my common sense and leave you with your clusterfuck. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix -
Cadbury Fruit and Nut Bar has been Changed By Hershey's
rhys replied to warpedskydiver's topic in The Bonfire
If they change the recipe for cadburies here in NZ there will be a revolution I tell you. We will have to house all the women in one place, wait for thier menstral cycles to allign and wait for the precise moment give them the information on the recipe change... ...kraft don't stand a chance! "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix -
Cadbury Fruit and Nut Bar has been Changed By Hershey's
rhys replied to warpedskydiver's topic in The Bonfire
eeeer? cadbury and hersheys are completely different are they not? cadbury is made for mainly UK,NZ,AUS and hershies is made for mainly USA I thought? Cadburies is the best. speaking of which..... "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix -
Letter from the tandem manufactors over underage tandems
rhys replied to PhreeZone's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
Well guys, I guess common sense has nothing to do with it. So not much point in carrying on. Seeing with all the bullshit litigation, the manufacturers just have to have multipule companies and shuffle the plant and assets around so the legal action cannot effect their productionn. Gee I feel fortunate to live in a relatively sane country, this shit is off the hook. When you ignore common sense and let stupidity and greed prevail, you end up with a good old clusterfuck. So back to business; OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOklohomo where the wind come sweeping down the plains..... "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix -
Letter from the tandem manufactors over underage tandems
rhys replied to PhreeZone's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
You know that I know about that lawsuit, but Strong also handed that jumpmaster a rating, if they had not have, would that have potentially made outcome different? that is more the point. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix -
Letter from the tandem manufactors over underage tandems
rhys replied to PhreeZone's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
Could you honestly say that if the aircraft manufacturers played a role in licensing the pilots, that there would not have been many more lawsuits for the manufacturers? I would be inclined to beleive that there would have been shitloads more. Removing liability is not eliminating it altogether, it is reducing it. My argument is that the liability would be significantly reduced, not eliminated. Heck, there are alot of planes out there and we all know ther is no such thing as a perfecty good airplane. lol "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix -
Letter from the tandem manufactors over underage tandems
rhys replied to PhreeZone's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
So if the manufacturers have a certain standard they specify is reached before one can use their gear, and they play no part in rating that person, and that person does something that is specifically against their specifications, then it would be difficult to pin it on the manufacturer... right? handing out a rating to everyone that gets a USPA rating, is admitting that they beleive that person has reached a appropriate level of understanding. Without the factory rating, the manufacturer can just brush them of onto the I/E that rated them and say they didn't do a very good job. It is not up to the manufacturers to make sure everybody is trained, that is the Job of the USPA (in america), the manufacturers job is to make sure the gear is well made and works properly. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix -
Letter from the tandem manufactors over underage tandems
rhys replied to PhreeZone's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
reasoning? "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix -
Fair call, I will get some as soon as I know they are suitable too. I also snowboard so It wouldn't be a complete loss. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix
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wingsuiting would have speeds less than that too would it not? I would bet the speed limit (lol) will be raised sooner than later. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix
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Letter from the tandem manufactors over underage tandems
rhys replied to PhreeZone's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
Bang on, It will not eliminate the chances but will make them significantly less likey. What ois the point of haveing bith USPA and manufacturers ratings anyway, seems like nobody wants to have the responsability while taking the credit as the overseeing entity at the same time. Nothin like a bit of clarity to clear up a ambiguous situation. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix -
Cool, we will agree to disagree, you will find that many, not only myself, wish to avoid the unecessary beaurocracy that is prevalent in the United States. Common sense out the window and status quo un challenged... Not where I want to be thank you. And no matter how much you think their way is the best way, it is not the rules in many countries and to say that people should adhere to rules that are not specific to them IMHO is lunacy. I don't expect you would recieve to well me coming into one of your tandem exams and saying that the participants should wait for another few hundred jumps, so they have at least 1000 before proceeding because that has worked well for us... I cannot see any difference. But we have agreed to disagree and we are allowed to do that. have a nice day. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix
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Good things don't often come free, as much as your statement is true, you have to admit that it is paramount that the ability and currency of all participants is recognised before such an event can be successful, one bad egg can ruin it for 499+ others. im sure the organisers have seen their fair share of failures and i'm sure it is not that easy to choose each person. there are always two sides to the coin. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix
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Letter from the tandem manufactors over underage tandems
rhys replied to PhreeZone's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
If I was not ever told sternly by others here that I am dangerous, criminal, stupid.... Then my personal argument would not exist. There is a potential, relatively easy solution to the problem the US manufacturers have with the legal system, I was just pointing that out. Not sure if it pertains to you in Canada, I certainly imagine it does not pertain to those in Britan unless their parachuting legislation makes it so. This is a US problem and greed and lack of common sence is largely to blame. Sad but true. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix -
I know there is a thread about these somewhere, but a search failed to find it... I remember some saying these will not be ready when October comes around and it seems that they were indeed ready and have already sold out until January... These should revolutionise wingsuiting, tracking, and many other disciplines. They are certainly on my wish list... If anybody has havd the luxury of wearing some of these, I would really appreciate the feedback you might have... I'm sure in time they will be commonplace in skydiving. https://www.zealoptics.com/transcend/ "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix
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Letter from the tandem manufactors over underage tandems
rhys replied to PhreeZone's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
What point. how about you just tell me then. Or do you prefer riddles to get your point accross? "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix -
Letter from the tandem manufactors over underage tandems
rhys replied to PhreeZone's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
Flying in airliners, driving automobiles, mountain bikes, skateboards, canoes, motor boats, skis and any similar activity has certain uncertainties that can result in perminant injury or death. Thay have done and will continue to do so also, people will continue using them without thought as well. Your kids can hang in a bubble wrapped in foam and anti bacterial sanitiser. Then you can let the rest of us go about our business. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix -
Letter from the tandem manufactors over underage tandems
rhys replied to PhreeZone's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
Is that because you wish your laws to be imposed on everyone? For fucks sake, we have our own laws and the further away from the fucked up laws of the US we can stay, the better. Mind your own business. I've made it crystal clear in this thread that I've been mainly referring not to legalities, but to the developmental maturity (or lack of it) of children, irrespective of legalities. Taking a 10 year old tandem skydiving is against the rules in your country, and you oppose anyonme doing that for that reason. Taking A 10 year old skydiving in my country is perfectly legitemate, accepted and carried out reletivley often. You insinuated it was criminal because you think it should be...wtf. You can oppose that all you like but to state; Means you beleive your way is the only way. I am not going to go there, again. Ha ha the old 'twoofer' card. and a childish attempt to move the focus away from your flawed, irrelevant point to a common ground that you find with similar minded bigots. Nice try. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix -
Given the chance I would have, instead some continue to insist that what I advocate is wrong. It is then up to me, not anybody else, to decide whether or not to respond to that. If upu wish for me to stop responding, then quit giving me something to respond to. LOL Swings both ways pal. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix
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Letter from the tandem manufactors over underage tandems
rhys replied to PhreeZone's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
Shhhh, you'll start a heated discussion talking about that. I've been there.... "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix