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Tell me about it. ...regional pilot for 6 years now. Pot of gold where? I'm comfortable. But I ain't rich (money wise) that's for sure. Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

Yeah, ephedra products are banned in Illinois because a few kids went and got killed. A few kids? Try one of the pitchers for the St. Louis Cardinals when they came in to play the Cubs.

It's ok. I was going to post something after awhile. It's certainly not a secret. You're still cleared to land, sir.

Whoops... well, I guess the world will know now. Wendy and the girls are good and the little one on the way is doing fine. My Christmas gift was a new Jeep stroller with sound system! It's got a little steering wheel that goes beep beep and and an ignition key that plays a starting engine. And no, I was not ever jogging around the house pushing the stroller for practice! Now, if I could just get an iPod to hook up to the built in sound system I'd be set. Fuel.............................check. Electrics........................check. Croud size...............sufficient. Thread hi-jack..........complete. Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

Do you have a photo of Bob? It's better to see a face with a story. Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

Checklist? We don't need no stinking checklist!

That's more than a couple dude. But I'm not looking at the other 29 posts to see if anyone already pointed this out to you. Oh, did I just swing at you across the internet? Oh yah? Well come right on out here and buy me a beer so we can talk about how to swing at each other online some more! BTW... my company isn't doing training in DEN anymore. Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

I doubt it. The cost offset of paying another pilot may not cover it. I'm just wondering where the original poster's DZ is. We are talking FARs (USA) and it seems he's in another country but I could be completely wrong. John, nope, I wasn't flying that one. Funny story: I was cranking loads one Saturday and two jumper landed out to the north which, as you know is a big NO-NO at SDC back a few years (landowner issues). Anyway, manifest was giving me a rash of shit over the radio for bad spotting and I said they must have pulled low and there was some exchange back and forth again about how I needed to do better. A couple of loads later I was landing and the two jumpers were walking in from the north. Casey was one of them and he saw me taxi by. I pointed at him... gesture like I was pulling a pilot chute... and then point at the ground as to say "you pulled low". He busted out laughing and started knodding his head in full agreement. Bad spot my ass. Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

Jerry, In the USA you won't have a FAR that says "Twin Otters can be flown by one pilot". It's a matter of their certification that says they can be flown by one pilot. They are not a jet. They aren't certified (most of the time) to have a max gross takeoff weight of more than 12,500 pounds. Now, if you use them for flying in an airline setting (Part 121) then yes, you will need two pilots in a Twin Otter to be legal. But for Part 91/105 skydiving ops the answer is no, you don't need two pilots. And reading your post above you have several issues going on there. There is a total lack of CRM going on. "FO scared to speak up to the CA". So if they were about to run out of fuel he wouldn't speak up? That's weak. But maybe the company and CA set up the environment where he truly felt he couldn't speak up. Then he should have walked away. And as for the skydivers... ever look down before exiting? I mean regulations aside, it IS YOUR LIFE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT? Why not look down before going? You do look down for other traffic that the pilots and controllers might have missed. Right? Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

Fact: Over 85% of all fatal plane crashes (not just skydiving) are caused by human error. Fact: Over 90% of all fatalities in skydiving are caused by human error. So why is it so weird for you to hear that the skydiver did something that got himself/herself killed/injured? We are the weakest link in this activity. Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

Oh, you're right there. It's an age old debate. Which is safer single or twin? But, given the experience I have now I want a twin to fly jumpers with. And I would rather have a 182 or 206 than a 208. Personally, I think 16/17 jumpers is too many for a single engine. The lenght needed for an emergency evac in flight makes things too dicey for a single engine.... ...and that folks is just my opinion. There are plenty of 208s and I suspect there will be MANY more 750s in the US flying jumpers. And they have, and most likely will fly 100s of thousands of hours accident free. However, when something does go wrong, will the people involved have the knowledge necessary to deal with that particular planes requirements in an emergency? Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

I never said I agreed with those practices...they are just the policies set by the air force academy for jump operations with their twin otters. So are you saying that a full otter...i.e. a -27, 23 jumpers, couple loads of fuel...on a hot summer day would have no problems maintaining alt? Hell, I'm no pilot, so I just go off of the pilots I've worked with, but the impression I've gotten is that in that situation, one or no engines, the bird is coming down! I chunked an engine on a -27 otter. End of summer, maybe 85 degrees out. Field elevation of departure was 600 MSL. Blew it at 6,000 MSL. 19 jumpers on board. Climbed to 7,000 and let everyone out. I went to 7,000 because that's just when we got back to the airport. It was still going up at that point. Rook and Missy Nelson can confirm it. Orly King was on there too. No two situations are the same but I'm scratching my head on why you can only take 4 jumpers in a super otter in the summer even at COS leaving 6,000 MSL. I haven't flown jumpers there before and maybe it's just a certain time of year they institute that rule but is it every load? Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

Safety? So why are you saying the PAC is "not all that bad"? If the PAC loses the engine it's coming down. With a Twin Otter and a properly trained, current pilot things are a lot better. I've lost an engine in singles and Twins (3 each type). I'll take the twin otter any day. Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

4 jumpers as a full load? Say what?! Uhh... that's goverment waste for yah. And so what if a Super Otter doesn't climb faster than a PAC 750 with one engine inoperative. How fast does the 750 climb with one engine inop? Yah... not so great is it? Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

10-WAY!!!! AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGG!!!! The gladiator sport of skydiving. Slow is smooth. Smooth is Fast. Now get your slot and kick some ASS!! Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

thats why I say i have a hard time believing he just stared at the ground. something else had to be wrong. Why? He wouldn't be the first to be completely unaware of altitude. There have been plenty of documented Cypres saves where the jumper had no idea what altitude they were at. There didn't have to be something wrong. Maybe there was. Maybe there wasn't. But it's not an absolute. Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

What about those knobs that you respond to that go back and edit their post so no one knows what the hell you are replying to? If I quote it then it doesn't matter if they change it later. It still makes sense. Well, that's how I see it. Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

And I tell the story about your son catching one big ass catfish in the pond at Independence. You guys soaked that thing in milk for ever and then had a cook out. Dang that stuff was good. Take care Terry. Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

Wow. SMB sold. Didn't Nardy own Hollister at one point? And Terry G. Wow, hadn't seen that name in awhile. Took Terry for a ride on one of my engine failures back in KC. He bought me a donut. Thanks Terry! I always did appreciate that. Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

Depends on the proximity to the radar site. I have had ATC call out that they can see my jumpers (4 round launch) if I was running jumprun to the NW (facing Kansas City International). Didn't happen all the time but it happened enough times to know they did get at least a momentary primary return. Then I flew on the record in 1998. 300 jumpers in freefall at once sure does make a pretty big primary target. Chicago Center was able to see that one pretty good. Never found out if they were able to get hits on smaller groups though. Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

I hear anyone can pass the ATP check ride now, so as to avoid loss of pilots' self esteem.

It comes from the paperwork required for modifying the door to open in flight. It's not really an FAR but there is an FAR that says you have to comply with all limitations in an STC or 337. Sooooo... Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

Do not use it exclusively? Sorry, I disagree with this logic. Millions of us grew up just fine with exclusively red ink. Not sure how you feel about the subject and I know the decision is probably not your own and you have to follow the rules but come on. This is just silly. (and yes it's a run-on sentence ) ...and... hope your pneumonia is going away. Get well. Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125

It's because they aren't allowed to use red ink for correcting papers. It might hurt the student's self esteem. WTF. That's the problem with this society anymore. You can't correct anything anymore. It's all PC. And the rest of the world laughs at us.

Ehh hem! I'm some what close to Kalamazoo. So, you gonna call?