FLYJACK
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Here we go... Concluding that Cooper could not be 5' 8" is not based on facts but on layers of subjective assumptions/estimates. Al Lee described Tina as 5' 6".. (did she have her shoes on or not??) Tina Mucklow is noted as being "approximately 5' 8" (by FBI agent, is that in shoes or not?), "she observed the hijacker in a seated position except for the brief period when he went to the lavatory"...
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Cossey claimed he got back one of the back chutes,, Did he actually get one back?? If so, was it a back chute? I thought the two front chutes were technically Issaquah Skysports chutes.. Maybe,,, If both Hayden and Cossey sent in 2 back chutes each and one from each was sent to the plane, then each could have got back the one (back chute) they sent in that didn't go to the plane.
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yes, the last letter, there are also 4 additional numbers printed on the bill that match the first letter, Federal Reserve Bank issuer, for example L = 12 = San Francisco. If Cooper were to alter the bills, it would be a very good and efficient strategy to just erase and change the last letter to a C.. (there are only about 14 - 1950C bills that end in C)
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I am not a big fan of the altering bills idea, it just seems like too much work. but, I checked and it is easy to effectively erase a bill number/letter on older bills with an electric eraser... which were common in drafting back in the 70's. So, why change a B to a C... wouldn't it be easier to make a 3 an 8?? Well, the were no Cooper bills that ended in a C except for a few 1950C bills. No 1969, 1963A, 1963, 1934, 1950, 1950A or 1950B bills ended in a C. Changing the last letter from an A or B to a C would be a good strategy for all bills (except the few 1950C notes with a C). People checking would check the year first and not get past the last letter.. but I am still skeptical about altering all those bills.
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We get quoted the average $20 bill lasts xx years... But Cooper bills aren't average. If Cooper survived with some of the money... He could have passed them into circulation and it would be very hard to find one still floating around.. However, if he stashed some away somewhere which is more likely for marked ransom money then somebody may find some and either try to exchange or sell on EBAY.
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yup..
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Interesting,,,, This is why I check old $20's against the Cooper list. It is a long shot but these old bills pop up. I checked a bill number shown by the U.S. Bureau of Engraving and Printing as an example of termite damage... the bills were sent in to be replaced/redeemed. The bill is piece of an old $20 and shows only part of the number in sequence 3433712 and has a 12 printed on it, making it an "L". The last letter is in a damaged area but appears to be a "C". It looks more like a "C" than a "B" but is incomplete. I ran the number 3433712 and got the Cooper note L73433712B. Those Cooper notes were manually entered to create the FBI list. The bill is L?3433712(C? I think) the Cooper bill is L73433712B. What are the odds of getting the bill letter plus 7 digits in correct sequence and position matching a Cooper $20?? one in a few million? The irony is the bill was being shown by the Treasury Department.. (U.S. Bureau of Engraving and Printing)
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The FBI scoured the country for Cooper's, there was also one in Florida they looked at..
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The "movie" will sure be exiting for those involved, I don't see it advancing the case in any way though. Movies/TV shows are made for the general population and don't address the deeper complexities which most of us have wrestled with. There is too much info in this case to do it justice..
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You have presented no real argument here.. Go read research on witness recall, I posted it somewhere before. Height recall is very imprecise, most people recall the "average". Unless a suspect was extremely short or tall, witness height recall is an estimate based on body shape, weight and even race. Height is a prompted response afterward and people throw out a guess. It isn't a fact. Al Lee said Tina was 5' 6".. was he lying, wrong or just estimating? Did Tina have shoes on? To claim Cooper could not be not 5' 8" is absurd. How tall is a person 5' 8" in shoes? 5' 9".. Is 5' 9" too short? 5' 9.5"? Anybody under 5' 10" in shoes should be automatically eliminated? You are eliminating potential suspects based on Tina's estimate... The FBI didn't. You eliminate based on facts, not estimates.
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Right, so the FBI did not eliminate suspects solely based on height unless well below 5' 10", it is/was a combination of factors. but you can. Is KC 5' 8" exactly or roughly, how tall is he in shoes? still 5' 8" or taller? How long did Tina stand next to Cooper also standing? How close? How tall is Tina, she claims 5' 8", is that exactly or roughly, is she correct? Was she in shoes, if so what type? Flo was told to remove her shoes. Was Al Lee incorrect when he described Tina as 5' 6" or was that estimate wrong? There are too many variables to eliminate somebody 5' 8", the FBI didn't do it based on that criteria alone. It is a factor, but not a single elimination factor. Studies have shown that witness height recall is very poor. Nobody measured Cooper's height. I am not defending KC, I am defending reason.
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Still wrong, the FBI didn't take the witness height estimates as hard facts... neither should you. Many witnesses had Cooper under 5' 10". The FBI investigated people under 5' 10"... what do you know that they don't. A good comparison is Hahneman, hijacking witnesses had him from 5' 8" - 6'.. it is an estimate.
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This is completely incorrect.. and disappointing. "If" Tina was correct... is big qualifier but she didn't claim Cooper was 6' - 6' 1". Al Lee described TINA as 5' 6". She claims 5' 8". Do we know Tina's actual height? in shoes? Let's go with 5' 8". Tina claimed Cooper was 5' 10" - 6' ... not 4 - 5 inches taller than herself. 2 - 4 inches if 5' 8". Cooper height estimates ranged from 5' 9" to 6' 1".. Initial FBI description was from 5' 9". Most about 5' 10". Cooper was sitting most of the time when Tina was next to him.The FBI investigated people below 5' 10". Witness height descriptions are notoriously vague, for the Hahneman hijacking the witness height descriptions ranged from 5' 8" to 6'... most about 5' 10". I have a military document showing 5' 9", in shoes that is about 5' 10". Witness height descriptions are estimates.. not hard facts.
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If you look at the UV particle distribution pattern on the tie.. there is a concetration pattern that suggests the tie was rubbed across something in various places. The control tie particle distribution under UV is random with no pattern. Cooper may have used the tie to wipe his prints..
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If Cooper survived with the money it wouldn't be passed at a bank or in the PNW. Passing the bills well outside the PNW wouldn't be an issue. The problem is the bills would get into circulation and none have ever turned up. The Cooper case is unique, hard facts are few and it is a very old case. The farther you get from the incident the more outside the box thinking is required to budge it. There is very little new evidence to emerge. We get some FBI files but they have had that info and not solved it. Sticking strictly to the facts is more important closer to the event. At 50 years out that didn't work, as time passes we need to explore increasingly speculative theories. There is a reason this wasn't solved in 71/72. The FBI didn't publicly solve it or prosecute with all the info they have, either they didn't have a case or they did and it was rejected.
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I just checked EBAY found one bill 2400 sequence numbers (last 4 digits) from a Cooper bill and another 2700 from another Cooper bill,,, I have found much closer, within 100, but yeah it is a long shot.
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There are many circulated old bills listed on EBAY, people find stashes of old bills all the time, maybe parents died and they try to sell for premium.. A real long shot for sure.. but if Cooper stashed some and somebody came across them being old bills worth a premium they may flog them on EBAY.. I have found some serial numbers that were very close.. Take a look on EBAY. Lots of Cooper era $20's in circulated condition.
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If Cooper got it out of the US it was gonzo.. More than half of the circulating US currency is outside the US. https://www.federalreserve.gov/pubs/bulletin/1996/1096lead.pdf It would be very risky spending marked bills in the US and you'd think one might pop up somewhere through circulation. Has there ever been a large ransom case where bills were spent into US domestic circulation and never found??
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Only two options, he lost it or kept it. Cooper tied the money bag to his body, he may have lost it during the jump.. McNally lost his money during the jump and when he landed he wanted to do it again. If he kept it, he either spent it or lost control of it. Every one and a while I go through the period specific $20's on EBAY and run the serial numbers through my ransom $$ spreadsheet.. maybe one will pop up. If it was Hahneman and he didn't lose it in the jump, he could have taken it to Honduras within weeks. If Cooper got it out of the US, it was untraceable.
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Hahneman was estranged from his family for many years. I have two reasons why he wanted to return to the US and it wasn't his family.
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Hahneman was a naturalized US citizen but also had Honduran citizenship,, there was no extradition to US, he could have stayed but voluntarily returned to the US. Governments returned US citizens but not necessarily their own citizens.. Hahneman was clear of US law if he had stayed in Honduras but everyone knew who he was and that he had a pile of money.
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I wondered this as well,, The 11:30 time may be a guess or an assumption. No idea how accurate it is.
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Map. pink line = 3 mi E of flightpath green = railway pink dot = Heisson store
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Cooper initially asked for 2 chutes, then 4.. two back and two chest
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Dec 26, 1966.. p 39 "Use of pure titanium and titanium alloys in commercial aircraft has been growing steadily over the years at Boeing although application has generally been limited to areas such as firewalls where temperature is a problem. High strength-to-weight ratio of titanium alloys and improved efficiency in fabrication as a result of supersonic transport research undoubtedly will lead to even greater utilization of this material in the future. For example, a typical riveted aluminum spoiler panel weighing 37.25 lb. made up of 50 parts held together with Aviation Week & Space Technology, December 1.219 fasteners costs $1,000 to make. An equivalent bonded titanium spoiler panel made up of 38 parts and 48 fasteners weighs only 26.71 lb. and costs $940. In each Boeing 727 now rolling off the line there are about 650 lb. of titanium firewalls, bulkheads, tanks, ducts and fittings." https://ia800809.us.archive.org/8/items/Aviation_Week_1966-12-26/Aviation_Week_1966-12-26.pdf
