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A scorpion wants to cross a river but cannot swim, so it asks a frog to carry it across. The frog hesitates, afraid that the scorpion might sting it, but the scorpion argues that if it did that, they would both drown. The frog considers this argument sensible and agrees to transport the scorpion. The frog lets the scorpion climb on its back and begins to swim. Midway across the river, the scorpion stings the frog anyway, dooming them both. The dying frog asks the scorpion why it stung despite knowing the consequence, to which the scorpion replies: "I couldn't help it. It's in my nature." There are lots of scorpions in the world, the Cooper world has its share, they can't change it is just their narcissistic nature. Unfortunately, they lose and everybody loses. That is the reason I DO NOT share most of my research.

You really are proud of yourself,, I was right not to give you my serial list. Lesson learned, be very careful who you trust in the Cooper world... I always thought there should be a closed forum with trusted people to discuss things without this type of BS... there is some outside the forum. But, having been on many diverse forums, the Cooper world has some of the worst people. Anyway Snow, good luck with your Sheridan nonsense.

Sounds like a lot of things.. Why would dropzone allow a permanently banned A-hole back on?

This is why I don't post most of my research... too bad as everyone loses. Snow-hole's ungrateful attitude in using my research. At least he didn't claim it was his like Ulis did. If I post something I expect it to be shared, not disrespected. You are done Snow.

Georger is lying again, he just can't stop. He is claiming my TBAR money view comes from two 302's. That is not true I have never claimed that, Georger is just making it up like he always does. There are many sources. A reminder,, Georger lies about Tina and the statement "bank type bands". He claimed she meant rubber bands and was contacted. She wasn't, Georger lied. Georger is a perpetual liar. His specialty is innuendo and red herrings.. He has had this wrong for a decade and STILL won't admit he has been wrong. To maintain his denial he just lies.. Tina handled the money and saw "bank-type bands around each package".. Georger's lies.. "SHE said rubber bands, not straps, not paper" (NO she didn't) "SHE meant rubber bands" (NO she didn't) "SHE was contacted and asked" (NO she wasn't) "so was Mrs Ingram" (Georger shifts from Tina to Mrs Ingram) "the common ENGLISH meaning of "bank bands" is "rubber bands" (NO it isn't)

Snowmman, I got trashed, ridiculed and told to shut up for expressing exactly what you are now saying about the packets, bundles and bands.. The money went to Cooper in packets of 100 then those rubber banded into bundles. The evidence supports bank bands for the packets and rubber bands for the bundles. Carr and Georger got it wrong, they mixed up bundles and packets.. they were told the bundles were randomized to make the money look hastily prepared and assumed that meant individual packets. Carr stated.. November 29, 2007 · Report reply The money was packaged in varying amounts, so one bundle would have $500.00 another $1,000.00, there was no uniformity to it. I have been searching for the evidence report from the lab but have not found it yet, lots of files to go through. When I get it you'll be the second to know. Clearly, he mixed up the bundle and packets.. the packet counts were not randomized. The bundles were. My conclusion is.. The money was strapped in packets of 100's. (HIMMELSBACH) The packets were then rubber banded into bundles of random counts of packets. They randomized the bundle count not the packets and did not open individual packets. The money went to Cooper in the same order as the micro. The TBAR money had rubber band frags attached, those rubber bands are likely from the bundle not individual packets. That means, it is very likely that the TBAR money arrived as one single rubber banded bundle as the FBI has stated. As the rubber bands deteriorated the packets seperated slightly. We need to discern between packets and bundles. Random counts and random order. and when "packets" are mentioned Georger blows a gasket. This has been explained to him many times and he refuses to admit the error. But, the takeaway is to bust the long standing myth that money must have arrived as three separate packets. That changes the means by which the money could have arrived on TBAR.

I called Georger a liar and a fraud because he is, absolutely toxic for this case. I have caught him just manufacturing evidence to win an argument. But, his primary strategy has been to take my posts here twist them out of context or outright lie about them report them there and ridicule, smear and discredit me. He has done this for years. He is full blown narcissist who need to be part of the Cooper narrative but has nothing to add so he discredit others to get attention. The only recourse I have to correct the record here. I have had two productions contact me about a Hahneman project and they read Shutter's site... that includes Georger's lies and defamation. The last one, I quoted Tom Kaye EXACTLY and Georger tried to discredit me. This is insane. Now, he is trashing Tom Kaye. He is a complete fraud. He got jealous and flew off the handle because I was credited with helping Tom with the diatom research, Check the bottom of the paper. His lies get read and just accepted over there and that empowers him, you people over there need to call him out on this crap. If he agrees with you he will heap false praise but if he disagrees he just lies because he can't formulate a rational argument. I don't know anybody who is OK with somebody persistently lying about them and their positions to discredit them.. this has gone on for years. He is a few bills short of money packet. Everybody knows Georger is toxic, most just avoid him so they don't get targeting by him. I moved here and he just copies all my stuff from here. Georger's 15 minutes were over long ago, he adds nothing and drives people away from engaging in discussions over there. On any other forum he would have been log sisnce banned but Shutter accommodates him with a scolding now and then. I don't have a problem with people taking my posts in context, I have a problem with liars. Why don't you ask Georger why he needs to persistently lie and discredit others? because he hasn't done it to you...

added period sunglasses.. credit for original image link here.. https://www.reddit.com/r/Corridor/comments/pdcwbf/d_b_cooper_using_e4e_and_styleclip/

That is very cool,, Since he wore sunglasses most of the time the eyes would be the least accurate, would be nice to see an image like that with sunglasses.

Thought I had posted before,, but The TBAR shoreline right at the money spot looks to have been replenished before the famous 1974 dredge operation and after Sept 71.. Remember, the 74 dredge operation shows South of the money spot, this is exactly at the money spot. September 1971 on the left and Jul 1973 on the right. Two bumps on the shoreline.. Locals said the money find spot was replenished regularly. The spot is at the very N end of the Fazio property.

Georger tripled down on stupid.. I quoted Tom Kaye exactly and Georger still claims it is inaccurate.. What is Georger trying to accomplish with his misinformation? Here is Tom Kaye.. "we only saw them from the springtime bloom so this puts a very narrow range on when the money got wet and was subsequently buried on Tena Bar"

As expected Georger doubles down on wrong.. He has a problem with Kaye's research because he has a contrary TBAR theory. But, that has nothing to do with me. Attacking me for quoting Kaye is not a legitimate argument. It is indicative of an intellectual fraud. TBAR theories have the same problem that Cooper suspect's do. They can't be disproven so there is always "it is possible". But, not all suspect's or TBAR theories are equal.. Kaye's diatom research indicates that the money was exposed to the River in a Spring between 72-79. It did not go directly into the Columbia. The "FBI" flightpath was accurate. Cooper jumped about 8:12, well North of the Columbia. The evidence supports those things, is it possible they are not correct? anything is possible but not very likely. A TBAR theory should fit those criteria. If your theory doesn't fit, it is weaker.

Palmer was asked about the shards at 3 ft depth, he said they probably got there during the excavation process.

Found this,, The FBI wanted this.. A person at Northwest has a copy of a voice recorder tape printout which contains all of the communication between the skyjacker, cockpit and Northwest Control Center in a timed sequence, Did they have Cooper on tape?

Georger again shows he is a complete fraud and liar. Completely toxic to the Cooper case. He is accusing me of getting Tom's work wrong and even lying... flying off the deep end. I paraphrased Tom's own statement.. from the recent Expedition Unknown. "there are diatom's that live in the winter and if it went in the water in the winter we would see those diatom's and we don't see them" Tom Kaye Those are Tom's words. Georger can read so it is clear he is wrong but Georger will never admit it. Georger always needs to discredit others... never, ever trust anything this clown says..

FBI file #62 is up.. https://vault.fbi.gov/D-B-Cooper /d.b.-cooper-part-62-of-62/view

The key to the diatoms is that there were no winter ones, only spring diatoms.. That means the money went into and was exposed to the river in a spring between 72-79 and became buried relatively soon. Ulis is 100% wrong, the river did not ONLY reach the money spot in 72 and 74. Spring 72 thru 79 is in play. Chaucer is claiming his theory ticks all the boxes, it doesn't, he has Cooper no pulling next to the Columbia along the flight path in an urban area. The evidence and witnesses indicate Cooper jumped much further North well before the Columbia. The money spot is definitely North of the circles on the map.. Eric, Shutter and myself have all analyzed images from the find and agree on this. There is no doubt whatsoever that the money spot was much further North based on landmarks identified from images. I believe from statements and images that there was regular beach nourishment at the TBAR spot separate from the recorded 1974 dredge operation. The suction dredge operation is out for two reasons,, no winter diatoms and the condition of the money.. Since the money didn't float, if it came from the River it arrived when the money spot was underwater. The money was pushed there along what would be the bottom that time. Spring is the seasonal high flow for the Columbia. A TBAR theory should fit the following.. Cooper jumps 8:11-8:13 + or - "FBI" flightpath is accurate Money enters the Columbia in Spring 72-79 and becomes buried on TBAR before exposure to winter diatoms Likely,, The money arrived as packets rubber banded into a single bundle. I have three good theories for TBAR but I don't think this can ever be solved.. no way to prove it.

IMO, it was a bit of a "who's on first" fiasco. Cossey packed them, claimed he owned them and could ID them so agents assumed he was the go to guy, nobody in the bureaucracy caught the inconsistencies. Hayden said the FBI didn't talk to him and he never looked inside the chutes.. that is why the orange and white chute in the river near Heisson is in play. It appears everyone accepted Cossey's initial error and ran with it. Cossey must have figured it out within days but instead of setting it straight he engaged in a series of shifting lies for years. Emrich confirmed only the two front reserves were sent from Issaquah. Cossey never acknowledged Hayden, ever. When he claimed they were his, he doesn't mean they were sold to Hayden. Hayden had SN 226 returned and was paid for the use of the chutes. No indication Cossey was paid and Cossey even claimed the chute left behind was returned to him. Hayden read Cossey's statements about the chutes in the newspapers and thought they were lies. This error may have undermined the entire case.

"Commando sole" boots..

I don't mean it negatively,, I already went over the recent stuff you have been posting when you were away and got very little response so it is good to see you are now discovering these things as well...

Snow,, You are all over the place, I went over much of this stuff before.. I already passed on the potential for print and fluorescent powders on the tie to Tom Kaye.. Lycopodium Clavatum was used to lubricate latex gloves.. First, the Heisson store break in was never confirmed to be the Heisson store, it is about the right location and was the area store at the time.. so likely but not 100%. Tina said Cooper's shoes were ankle high and laceless, not loafers, those french jump boots have laces.. There was a "commando sole" available on many boots at the time including laceless ones. The store break in fits Cooper well, right area, right time, right stuff stolen... right along the rail tracks.

Well, it was just an estimate, too many pieces and frags, look at the images of the 12 piles and make a guess, they aren't all the same size. 100 bills is just less than 0.5 inches thick.. They probably tried to separate them first and like many things in this case we are left with more questions.. But, if there were missing bills then there weren't rubber bands around all the packets.. I recall reading somewhere, Tosaw maybe? that 2 packets were complete and one was short. Nothing official though..

They couldn't get the number exact,, the 280 bill count was an estimate.

The Recordak has to be in the correct the order based on the bank instructions to deduct between the start/stop.. if it wasn't there would be no way to use the start/stop numbers. The FBI must have the original bill order prior to sorting and to claim the bills were in the same order as given to Cooper. We don't have direct evidence but it is implied. In this case they only filmed the front half of bill.

They don't say how they did it but it was an estimate of 280, not a hard number. I don't think it would be very hard at all. You can use bill SN's in the 12 piles to match the original micro sequence. With that original list if the bill SN's fall within a range of 100 (x3) that means three packets in the original order. Not hard to do but they never disclosed how they did it.. Also, look at the piles of 12.. if 300 bills that is 25 per pile average but some piles are larger than others,, it looks like about 300 bills. I think you are right bill.. L58739558B 1963A is the correct SN.. it is a 7 not a 1. https://www.apmex.com/product/235119/unknown-series-20-frn-pcgs-d-b-cooper-71-ransom-money