chachi

You do make some interesting points. There is no right or wrong answer here, i guess I am just very determined because we are talking about life vs. a canopy which in 99% of the cases can be walked out and picked up. The list of how to do it just looked pretty out in the open to me and thought it was a bad example. whaddya mean outlawed? bsr's are not law. _______________________________________________________________ BSR's are laws as far as you and I at the dz are concerned if you jump at a USPA dropzone. i stand corrected. you didn't say banned. you said they should be removed from circulation. _______________________________________________________________ I only said paffed out F111 canopies should be removed from circulation. maybe we should have a disclaimer sticky up top that says "Kids, DON'T try this at home" _______________________________________________________________ I'll give you this one... Can I quote you on that? _______________________________________________________________ no,.... lol. ~Chachi

If you are trying to goad me into an argument, it won't work. I will answer you if you promise not to be immature to the point of being warned by a moderator. Your points were: 1. He was flying a velocity. Yes I agree a much more dangerous wing and as I said already in the post above you that although you and I understand this the guy at 100 jumps on his brand new spanky Sabre 150 with his barely there canopy control doesnt know the difference between that and an experienced CReW dog with his Lightning 190 at 6,000 ft with uber canopy skills. We need to post responsibly in my opinion and that means discouraging these practices so no one else has to pay that price. I also to clear the record mentioned that in this case I was trying to push my opinion on everyone. I also think it worthy to mention that when the BEST canopy pilots in the business tell me and others that they wouldn't even think about doing it EVER again, maybe that is noteworthy advice. 2. The sport actually outlawed low pulls and in the interest of answering your off topic point I did not in one place say we should outlaw F111 canopies. I said that there is no point in learning how to flare a paffed out F111 canopy when the person in question and indeed 99% of skydivers will find themselves under a ZP main very early on in their career and for a very long time. I am a proponent of using new(ish) gear because using antiquated gear is just plain silly in a sport of seconds and feet. This is a very public place and the amount of people reading what we as more knowldgable skydivers write down is taken for law in many places and I just don't want to see people get hurt misconstruing information we write in hear as it is not only CReW guys with 100 of jumps getting the information it is normal 50 jump wonders that may not have heard of Nate Gilbert and then think it's a great idea. ~Chachi PS. If you are going to debate with me please discontinue recycling my comments and phrases and come up with your own.

Well, I didn't see you mention anyone else so I think you Need a Man with Strong Pimp Hand, oh and attach more pictures or you in your bra please. ~Chachi

the best kiss starts with a little build up and then starts slow. gentle pressure, soft lips, (not to big or pencil lips) some nibbling on the lips and some tongue. being creative without trying to shove your tongue down my throat. i am also a big proponent of kissing the neck, i love to do it and have it done so someone that has a clue on that is also necessary as i have some leet skills in this area. ~chachi

lol, and true... ~Chachi

this does make me feel sorry for women.... ~chachi

Chachi, you are right. This manuever shouldn't be promoted. But you do have to understand that CReW dogs don't look at a wrap like most sport jumpers do or they would never do CReW again. And there is a difference in catching something up high and catching something down low on an ultra diving main. Many people reading this do not know how to determine the difference and you are simply promoting bad habit in my opinion. I just try and remember this is a public forum and anyone can read it. Not meaning to sound condescending, honestly, just trying to push my opinion on others. ~Chachi

...just not my PM's, lol. too funny, ~Chachi

thanks i respect any video that doesnt make the person look great and is posted for the pure reason of "do not do what i did." ~Chachi

this is the funniest post i have ever read on here, i actually lost it and spit coffee, thanks for the laugh.... ~Chachi

I honestly can not believe that anyone who had heard the story of how Nathan Gilbert died would ever consider this again. The only information you should be pushing onto the skydiving community is NEVER EVER EVER try this. I know you CReW dogs are good but I also know Nate was a PST qaulified canopy pilot who regularily finished well. He died, should others in the same way? I don't think so. Please TVPD edit your post to simply say Tips: -DON'T DO IT. end tips section. This should be a totally outlawed practice. Kinda like low pull competitions. ~Chachi

I have read so much on this and seen the argument so many times I feel like just saying fuck it, jump it and stop bothering me. The thing is, I do not want you in the air anywhere around me. The simple fact is that a camera can be a distraction at any level of experiece but these distractioins get magnified by the fact that at 100 jumps or 125 jumps you are simply not that gerat of a skydiver. You lack the ability to make sure you are always where you are supposed to be and when you are concentrating on that so hard you may miss other things going on. Straight up though, under 200 jumps you will not be flying a camera at my dz. ~Chachi

haha, everyone here knows I only get coaching from the French (shhhhhhhhh!!!! Don't tell Nick) Hey bud, you are right, most girls find coaches easier than guy do That being said, I'm looking for a guy who's rig will fit a 5'11 girl, and he must be able to teach all skydiving disciplines. Now I wanna do rodeo!!! We can work on that and the "kiss pass" if you would like but I recommend a lot of dirty diving for these two disciplines. I am thorough though. ~Chachi

single "skycutie" always welcome at my dropzone... ~Chachi

frankly i think you need a nice tight white shirt to go braless in, maybe it's just me though..... i am sure this will assist you in getting to 90% slutty as well... ~Chachi

Which is why I had my posts removed. Women can learn from women. t agreed...

staying single so i can hit on GFD when i meet her... ~chachi

yup, your the only one, you looney... ~Chachi

Apology accepted. Thanks. That just brought a tear to my eye. I LOVE YOU GUYS!!!

Hmmm, well you replied to my post, ummmm, you were talking about me, ........ logical conclusion?, but ok fine. Straight up though, I wasn't trying to change your mind, I was trying to understand your perspective. Usually when I do that though it is appreciated, I am sorry that I offended you in this case. Done. ~Chachi

Holy shit, FYI I was trying to make light of things, and never once did I say bitch. Any other words you want to put in my mouth? ~Chachi

so? ~chachi

Hey! I'm not PMSing. I'm just a real biatch!!! LOL, I wasn't talking about you. ~Chachi

Some people shouldn't PM people either when they are PMSing. It seems they can't handle another point of view. ~Chachi

yes, and the stickers were neon green but my buddy removed them. it came with the lower fairing big zx9r and the under the passenger seat small zx9r decals. ~chachi