ChileRelleno

I'd bet that for the children of those who abuse the system you fall into a minority. ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868

Consider my use of my system as a student loan which I've paid back thru my productivity/taxes. Because alot of these "others" have no interest in helping themselves, no desire to do better and to contribute to society, to payback what they are allowed to use. They abuse it! The welfare programs are not supposed to be lifelong umbilical cords, its supposed to temporary, to help not hurt. They not only hurt themselves but they are hurting you and I, they're hurting our country. This is about those who take, take, take, take and never give back to the system I'll help them, I'll try hard to help them, but at some point you have to cut'em off. The baby bird must fly, The baby whale must rise to the surface fo its first breath and people must work, must help themselves at some point! ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868

OH! But they will... Just get yourself medically classified as addict and SSI will send you money since you sooo disabled by addiction as not to be able to work/hold a job. I'm going on over 9 years of total sobriety, I am a Alcoholic/Addict. I was a functioning addict. The whole point is I changed, these leeches do not want to change, they just want to continue sucking. We cannot allow this!!! ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868

And they don't belong in prison, prison is for those who are threats to society. Could you call their irresponsible reproduction a threat to society? Yes and No. But they don't belong there, they need to working and payiong their share directly or indirectly to their offspring. If they won't work then let'em starve, starvation is a great motivator. We need more, faster and on a larger scale. AMEN! Chile bites tongue before going off on a rant about liberal socialism. Well, enough of the sitting on the asses... ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868

I'd been working since age fifteen and paying my share of taxes/SSI ect, I'd never before used the systems to which I'd contributed. So as a taxpayer, as a ablebodied citizen who did not want to suck off the government tit for years, I used programs my own labors helped fund! I'm not a leech and I'm more productive than ever before and my tax bracket has changed to reflect that, so you could say I paid back my education... Your tax money is there to help people, but alot of these folks aren't interested in your help or helping themselves and thus society, they just want your money, your tax dollars for nothing in return. I was a return investment on "OUR" tax dollars. ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868

Hmmm, lets see, four years or less of school or even much less for job training, room-n-board payments till their on their feet, daycare for the non-schoolage children vs a lifetime of taxpayer exspense welfare/medical ect programs. Then when they're productive members of society, their productivty/taxes will help to raise more from this morass in which they've fallen or willingly waded into. Just for yucks and using aprox $'s lets figure we take care of the family and educate/train the head of house for four (4) years. $7000 x 4 = $28,000 daycare $1000 per mnth x 12 x 4 = $48000 Food/shelter $8000per yr x 4 = $32000 School/training thats $108,000.00 for 4 years Welfare/medical for 18+ years $1000permnth x 12 x 18 = $216,000.00 $108,000.00 vs $216,000.00 Thats a savings of $108,000.00 and we know have(hopefully) a responsible/productive family who are more liable to have responsible/productive children. Now granted Uncle Sugar would find some way to screw it up, but I'm willing to empower people not just give them handouts. Just as I empowered and helped. ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868

Its gonna happen, some people will be poor and some will be rich, most will be inbetween. Is it fair that the poor will have to scrape and scratch to get by... No, but life aint fair. Lots of people have hauled themselves out of poverty and made a better life for themselves and their families, I'm proudly one of'em

Yes I am. The cost would be less than paying out welfare for them and the child in the long run. They must get a job of some sort, their children will not need daycare forever, the parents (anybody) if ablebodied must work and support their families!!! If you cannot support a child without government help, then you have "NO" business having a child!!! I'm sick and tired of paying others to be selfish, inconsiderate, lazy, and irresponsible. I'm tired of paying out SSI to drug/alcohol addicts, to illegal/legal immregrants!!! Do you know we're actually sending SSI checks to people in Mexico!!!! You look at it as responsible citizen, your not going to go get knocked up and screw up your life, your not looking for the welfare $buck$. Some of these folks actually have babies to get more money!!! They don't care... Uncle Sugar will pay the bills, put food on the table and cover medical exspenses... While you and I foot the bill. This cannot go on forever. ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868

Once a terrorist, still a terrorist... He should've been killed long ago! Good riddance. These terrorist regardless of race, color or creed need to be hunted and exterminated by any means possible IMO. ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868

I'm with you Treejumps, too many mouths suckling at the government tit. I'm all for "rules", if we're going to help you (welfare recipient) then you have to play by our rules and learn to help yourself (get educated, learn a skill and get a job). Major problems with our current systems need to revised/corrected ASAP!!! If a person is ablebodied, they should be working to support themselves and their children... PERIOD! ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868

Too cute ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868

I had to vote, "Tough one". I would've of held onto for a little while and looked for the owner and failing to find owner checked with the police about any reports. Even if you turn it over to the police if its not claimed within a certain time you get it, but with a high dollar item such as this you'd better keep a close eye on it or it'll be state property. And you'd be damn sure they'd report it the Uncle Sugar (IRS) and you'd pay a whopper tax on it probably. ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868

Naw, I can see it, my aunt mary married a rich old bastard and her ring was 10 carat solitaire in platinum! We're talking friggin huge!!! I'm talking about a ring that by itself could buy a nice house in So-Cal. ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868

Yeah, its true. It happened at WFFC Rantoul, I saw the footage when watching the days film clips, the entire crowd gasped in horror and then applauded this smart/lucky jumper for saving his own life. I'm not sure where you can find the footage, perhaps skydivingmovies,com? I saw another raft jump at WFFC Rantoul where a rider attempted to deploy out of the raft and the PC was seriously caught in the rafts burble. It was flopping around everywhere, threatening to wrap around everyone it touched, particularly the jumpers holding the raft. This elicited a gasp of horror from the crowd and everyone tensed expecting to see catastrophe, it finally cleared and said jumper was extracted from the raft. Raft jumps take planning and its a must to have someone very familiar with them when attempting them. Rafts wrapped around airplanes, jumpers caught in or on ropes and ect... Are very real dangers. ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868

Hello little sister, Thats the spirit! You go girl, keep jumping, you'll get there! You'll get pied in due time. Where are you located? Have you ever heard of the Rodriguez Brothers? Want to be one? Always on the lookout for bumpy bros... bwahahahaha ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868

Ditto what I said to Skymonkey. ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868

I sense alot of hostility over your 3000 jump pie.... I fully agree with'ya mi'amigo, the trend toward "disgusting concoctions" vs "real pie" is gettiing out of hand. I've talked people out of condiment (mustard, ketchup and ect...) pies before and even drove to the store and bought the real stuff for'em, whipped cream! Your pie should not only be fun but taste good too! Once again I implore you people to keep with tradition... No chemistry projects! Stick to whipped cream, hell you even have different flavors. ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868

Prayers for you and your mother. ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868

Pie. I'm sick and tired of people whining, hiding and running away from getting their pies, this needs to be stopped! This age old tradition of getting pied on your 100th and 1000th jumps (some folks go for every 00/000 #'s) is a rite of passage! Take your pie with pride! Humbly kneel before your fellow jumpers at 100 jumps and take it like a skydiver! And at 1000 jumps, stand tall because after 1000 jumps you kneel to no skydiver! Traditions like Pie and Beer builds strong bonds of friendship with your fellow jumpers. Nobody should scoff at time honored traditions. Don't bitch, don't whine just take your pie like I got mine... With pride and graciously! Not chased down like a cur dog yelping in terror. ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868

Some folks up in Tulsa,OK fondly remember my ice cream floats in lieu of beer, for my first jump back after shattering my Tib/Fib. Its really up to the individual, to beer or not to beer, and some DZ's try hard to enforce their beer rules and if you don't buy then don't expect to enjoy others beer ect... Sitting around drinking that beer (or whatever) is a goodtime for making friends and learning from the "No shit!, there I was..." stories. ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868

Not if I can avoid it being as it can hurt. ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868

Kinda like venereal disease films in sex ed or crash films in drivers ed... Some folks will be scared shitless and some will never learn. Such films pictures should probably be reserved for actual students during their progression, not firsttime jumpers. I think that being shown the consequences of something rather than just hearing about sharpens the learning curve. It may negatively impact some students, even make'em dropout, but if they can't handle the real risk associated with this sport then they need to T.U.G. (take up golf). ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868

Yep, well aware of the consequences and like I said, As in I resort to the modified PLF/slide. ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868

In order of priority, Registration fee perks(beer has no value to me) Facilities (showers, toilets and ect...) Jumptickets Main aircraft Organizers Specialty aircraft and cost ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868

Cost, Aircraft and friendliness are factors when re-visting a DZ or if I was taking a skydiving vacation. As a longhaul trucker I've jumped in 40 states and 79 DZ's, consider it a cool job perk. When I'm after a new state/DZ or just passing thru and jonesing for a jump its any port in a storm. ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868