mrshutter45

some of these suspect wannabee's need to get on board with the media. the Nielsen ratings are extremely low for Duane Weber and KC. ABC recapped Marla's story August 2013. I believe this will be the second time this year. better hurry, she's going to take all the thunder..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deb4YiHrcBE "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

we need some proof here. not some television series proof. http://www.medialifemagazine.com/brad-meltzers-decoded-scrambled/ "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

if it has nothing to do with Cooper, why are you afraid to show it??????? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Word has just reached me that a witness on board 305 has been interviewed and shown photos and turned thumbs down on both KC and Duane Weber. Eg. "ears stick out way too far" etc - Weber ... "nothing about him matches, nothing..." - KC There is other news but Im going to let others pass it along .. someone sent me a PM asking about the pictures shown to the witness on 305. also was wondering who else is coming forward with this info? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

This IS not consorting - If you do NOT help me it means U might have a reason not to want the CASE solved. I will do it on my own and then the FBI will get copies simutaneously with the media. I asked for help in a nice way. All it took was your expertise with pictures - NOW I think perhaps you are what I have alway thought! You are part of the conspiracy if there was ever one - that or you would not be able to survive the down fall of your steadfast convictions. Jo, nobody is holding the case back. no body is covering the case up. if you have evidence, simply produce it. you have been holding yourself back for over a decade now. put the cards on the table. nothing will go poof. the with holding things is really not helping you or making you look like you have the cards. you have been doing this since Nov.12, 2006. open the door of that dark dungeon you have been living in. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I'm wondering if the so-called stop/start bills (top/bottom) in each of the three bundles were legible since those were the two most exposed to the enviroment. If stop/start bills were legible that would suggest somehow the bundles were very well preserved in the enviroment for 8 years. If they had been in the enviroment for 8 years. IMO....Evidence from packet pictures, on Feb. 13, 1980 the FBI didn't have enough samples of bills to definitely say (as FBI agent said on Feb. 13) the bundles found at Tena bar are the same as when delivered to Sea-Tac on November 21, 1971. " the bundles found at Tena bar are the same as when delivered to Sea-Tac on November 21, 1971." I believe they are talking about the serial numbers. the preservation is what the problem seems to be. where they in the bag before hitting the beach? I have been doing a lot of reading on cutter dredging. it seems trash gets thru the system. licence plates have went thru. the cutter head is a slow rpm rotating bit the goes under the surface and breaks up the sediments allowing the loose sediments to be sucked up thru the line to empty onto a barge or beach etc. "You can hear just how powerful it is by standing next to the discharge pipe and listening as gravel, small logs and other unidentified objects go rattling through. Crew member Amos Henry of Memphis said that another corps dredge once hit a field of Civil War cannonballs, which raised a real racket as they went pinballing through the pipe." "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

that is FSX (Microsoft) I have the entire collection of upgraded software including the NWA 727 (see photo) no wiglets on it. the problems I have with Microsoft is the weather engines. I can't seem to get them to do what is needed. I have moved past Microsoft and entered X-Plane 10. the battle between the two are similar to battle here I like the aerodynamics of the system over MS. the weather system is much better so far on X-Plane. two people or two computers can be used as an Instructors Operating Station. the weather can be controlled from a different computer with out pre-loading everything. X-plane also has more focus on the old school 727 seen in this video. my computer should be here tomorrow. testing will begin next week. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpUtfiMj1aY forgot the pic "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ G replies- Thats a funny way of putting it. Dissolve? Not in water they dont. At least not quickly. Rubber bands are a little more complex than Tom let's on. And it's "these" rubber bands ... which have a particular chemistry. And a number of lifetime options depending on environment. Let's just say that at 2:30pm on a Thursday after six months exposed to the Cooper Effect they magically go "poof"! The Law of Rubber Band Cooper Extinction. (On Tina Bar as opposed to on Uranus) I guess I could of used deterioration, or disintegrate. let's put a bundle out there and see what happens? we can talk about it for a year, or watch it over a year? no more guessing.....another "assimilation" as Jo calls it "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I'm not hoping, just digging to see what's there. I've seen that form at CitizensSleuth.com (your attachment) One of the problems, is the story varies so much. Two different FBI agents say the same thing, suggesting the bundles had random amounts of money. Tom Kaye says the FBI archive indicates each bundle had 100 twenties in it. Tom Kaye says the FBI archive indicates the microfilm is lost or can't be found. Even though the FBI archive indicates this, does anybody really believe the money sequence list for the crime of the century is lost? The only list that can verify the bundle sequence of money. Like Georger suggest, several entities would have needed that master list to settle legal matters. Post 1980. I guess someone in the know with the FBI can make one quick call and get a Yes or No answer to whether the Cooper money bundle sequence list is lost or not. I wouldn't doubt if someone presented a new bundle to the FBI that the list they have would magically appear. I'm sure they have it. based on the research done on the money. we know the rubber bands dissolved in less than a year. are we basing the money itself on less than a year with the condition it is in. with the Ingram's washing off a lot of the evidence. how much damage did they do to these bills. many claim the bills could of been in the bag prior to being found. all the more reason to put a bundle out there and watch ourselves? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

if you were hoping the bundles were taken apart at one point before the T bar find. this should answer the question. it appears they had the list in 1980. the list has vanished somewhere between 1980-2008. see attachment....... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

That's a great question. One of the articles said that using it to start the fire was suggested by the bro / bro-in-law, but Daddy Ingram saved the day. Who knows if the story is legit? Everything has been guessed at for the holes and the edges. Bugs, diatoms, flare burn, dredge markings, friction, cleaning agents, I could go on and on. I've always favored the insects, rodents, and birds, myself. the holes I can understand, but, it looks like surgical munching lol. most of the bills are equal all the way down around the edges? just another crazy thought I guess. I say we pitch in a couple bucks and plant it on the beach and check on it every 1/4 out of a year? 30 or 40 one dollar bills should be enough.... Hey - I've often thought that if someone had started several experiments when this thread first started we'd have quite a few years of data now.

That's a great question. One of the articles said that using it to start the fire was suggested by the bro / bro-in-law, but Daddy Ingram saved the day. Who knows if the story is legit? Everything has been guessed at for the holes and the edges. Bugs, diatoms, flare burn, dredge markings, friction, cleaning agents, I could go on and on. I've always favored the insects, rodents, and birds, myself. the holes I can understand, but, it looks like surgical munching lol. most of the bills are equal all the way down around the edges? just another crazy thought I guess. I say we pitch in a couple bucks and plant it on the beach and check on it every 1/4 out of a year? 30 or 40 one dollar bills should be enough.... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"Shame you didn't make it back. Now what would be really cool is if you could simulate no gravity while you're flying around out there." you have no sense of speed or anything, so I guess it simulates no gravity to an extent. I have no clue about the shuttle. many knobs and buttons and screens lol. I place myself 100 some miles up and a speed of 17,000. from there i'm flying anyway I can to keep it straight. I can't orbit, I only have the North American disc. it stops me. when I go out into space I eat up my virtual memory and crash the software. it's not made to go into deep space. re-entry....not a clue. made it in one time. the rest I just flop around and the program ends. to shallow or quick. don't know. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I think the 12 comes from the amount of stacks on the table with the Ingram's and the FBI. this was after they took the bundles apart and tried to clean them. how did the bugs or what every it was eat the bills into rounded edges? no square edges anywhere? the bill in the front center has a strange straight cut on it where the corner should be? didn't they say they were going to burn the money? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

it was common knowledge and big news when the Federal law was made for the 55 mph limit. truckers went nuts. they get better mileage going faster. my SIMULATION will be on track starting next week. I'm getting a new computer shipped here by 9/4/2013. I7 processor with 12 gigs of memory and a gtx 550 (i think) video card. 1 TB hard drive. I also changed the software. lots of things happened. but little forward motion. I should have nothing holding me back from this point forward. I am open to any valid data that could help the project. sadly you can't see this because of your computer. I can also go into space with the program. I haven't a clue what I'm doing, but it's cool.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1N17yc7pe0 the offer still stands on the computer, you could easily use both. just switch the phone line to and from.... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"I do NOT know what the speed limit was in 1979" "Duane drove very fast & the speed limit was 85." just an example.... anyway. how did a traveling life insurance salesman work? I understand commissions. I guess you both held multiple licences in N. Colorado & Wyoming. also licence for S.C. and Georgia? I believe he went back and fourth eastward as well? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

For 13 years (1974–1987), federal law prohibited speed limits above 55 mph (89 km/h). there are States now that allow 80. you are once again trying to worse case scenario things. he couldn't have bought a new car with the 200 grand. it was buried and damaged, so he threw it in the Columbia? or did he launder it? the money was damaged before he threw it in the river. it truly amazing watching you build I doubt someone always looking over his shoulder for the law would go 30 mph over the speed limit for hundreds of miles.... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

unless we have the actual list and order the bills were in. there is not much we can do. collecting the serial numbers might come in handy though..... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

it's the same table where the Ingram's and H are looking at the money. are you trying to get serial numbers? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

the whole thing sounds strange. where was the meeting, Dalles or Seattle. you do realize leaving Salt lake to Dalles in the afternoon would put you there pretty late. in the past you claimed you had no idea how Duane had the money to go to Tahoe, and yet you had money to side track everywhere else? probably close to 2000 miles running around the Country. gas, lodging, food. couldn't have been part of the 200 grand. he laundered, buried and threw it all away? Ft Collins to Salt lake is approx. 360 miles Salt lake to Dalles Or. is approx. 570 miles Dalles to Seattle is approx. 150 miles Seattle to Lake Tahoe is approx. 600 miles this is mileage in a straight line. not counting all the other driving around the "jump zone" I see the company paying very little of the cross country run. I don't understand why they wouldn't fly him vs driving? I'm in my 50's and find it hard to drive long periods now. I use to be able to drive for hours. how did you do it? according to you, Duane did the driving. lots of miles in a short period. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I never said a word about 2010? so the company paid for the trip. how did you go to Salt Lake and Tahoe all in one? did the company pay for the wild ride thru Washington? did you fly or drive to Salt lake and Tahoe. one would think the company would pay for a round trip ticket for one day? you had to be at the dinner/meeting at a specific time and date. how did you manage to get to Salt lake before the time to be in Seattle? then went thru Seattle to Vancouver and off to Tahoe? seems there is a lot of time taken off by both of you to travel across the country? if you flew, you then lost your free ride home by going to Tahoe? or even stopping in Salt lake would void your flight. what exactly did the company pay for? was you coming from Va beach? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

the original post came from Georger. I have no knowledge of this other than what Georger has reported. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"There is a picture of Duane with his hair parted - it was taken in one of the machines they used to have in malls yrs ago. I will try to find it - I thought it so hideous it was never put it in album." even by your own admission it seems Duane would not fit the description of Cooper. his hair doesn't really have a natural part. as you said it would be "hideous" you always try to corner every angle. he buried the money, he threw it away, or he laundered the money. if he wasn't Cooper, he was the ground man. he can't be everything. in your 1979 trip, how many miles did you put on the car? I recall you stating at one point that you had to get back to the airport. you must of logged hundreds of miles from Seattle to the Portland area? this would be an expensive trip. you have never shown one single bit of evidence supporting this. when another suspect comes along, you demand proof. when we confront you on proof, we get nothing? is that really fair. the question of credibility comes into play often Jo. this is just one example. you constantly shape 2+2 into 5. with all due respect. when dealing with proof from you. it goes poof. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

LOL... L.D. will not go away. doesn't really matter. they will try and go around what any witness will say. I forget which passenger it was, but he/she claimed none of the known suspects was Cooper. Cooper can be bald. Cooper can have hair, but no part in it. Cooper can have little hair....he can be short, tall, fat or small the description will fit them all last time I checked the description of Cooper, he had hair with a part on the left side. KC has a part all the way around his head lol. Duane doesn't have one. LD matches some what the drawing Flo made years after. 2011 Marla claimed "case closed" 2012/2013 Jo claims case closed. 6/13/2013 Paul states case closed. who will have victory....film at 11..... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI