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I remember those. that was the type I had while talking to the truckers. when I was in Ohio, my buddy across the street had one as well. we couldn't go very far with them. it must be the location where you are. plus the fact of Mountain peaks. I remember they transmitted on channel 14, but received all 23. we even tried making antenna's out of coat hangers to try and get a better signal. didn't work. the Morse code worked very well though. sad to see the skip as left. I was shooting skip just a couple years ago when I still had it hooked up. 2009/10 maybe. mine is now part of that equation, resting in the closet. my antenna is still up and running in the house ready for action at a moments notice unit 305 South Florida signing off...over http://www.ebay.com/itm/vintage-cb-walkie-talkie-solid-state-lafayette-general-electric-ranger-transiste-/161041571051?pt=2_Way_Radios_FRS&hash=item257ed35ceb "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

that is not lighting changing the color of the 2x4's. the roof has been reinforced. all of the wood would be the same color if lighting was the issue. your job down here would be considered "a punch out guy" or punch list. one who finishes up the home's odds & ends, taking care of red tags by the city. starter position into construction down here. Real Estate people hire positions such as the one you had. house flippers and construction companies have punch out guys. the exterior has had many changes over the years. different size windows are apparent in the front of the home. trim work, gutters, new shingles.vents in the roof. the house is in excellent shape for a home built in the 40's. the only way this happens is by proper up keep and remodeling. lots of it. the interior didn't appear to just have a fresh coat of paint on it. since it's now a business, I'm sure a lot of changes happened inside. I have only seen the old photo of the house. do you have a picture of the house while Kenny was there. it's possible some of the work was done in the late 80's to early 90's. what year was that photo? I'm sure over the years the city was not aware of all the things done to the home. doesn't look any more than 900 to a 1000 s/f? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Did several jump tests with ham radio walkie talkies. Haven't done CB frequencies yet. Results with 2 meter (146 MHz) walkie talkie gear was telling. Opening at 14,000 feet I made numerous contacts. Best distance from over Byron CA DZ was about 90 miles. Many contacts in the 20-30 mile range. Range decreased as I descended but I had no trouble working a friend with a similar walkie talkie who was on a mountain peak about 12 miles away even after I landed. I tried both 5 watts and 1 watt settings. Didn't make much difference. CB gear would probably give similar results. I'll try it but 71 vintage CB walkie talkies are big, heavy and require antennas that telescope to about 3 feet. I'd have to make a larger radio pouch. It's on my to do list. I've seen no evidence that Cooper used radios of any kind. I just wish he had. Ham radio and skydiving are two hobbies I really enjoy. A surprising number of folks who post here are ham operators including Guru, Snowmman, Sluggo, Georger and some others who I can't recall at the moment. My buddies and I have flown a 20 meter (14 MHz) 4 watt PSK 31 digital beacon with an end fed trailing wire dipole. If the ionospheric conditions are favorable our signal can be heard THOUSANDS of miles away. So far no such luck. 377 I wouldn't doubt you would get good results on the way down. I have had many CB's over the years (good & bad) I remember having a walkie talkie in our trips to Niagara Falls & Florida. it was a cheap one, could barely talk to the truckers behind us. conditions play a big part in signals. I can see getting good range on top of a Mountain vs line of sight. back in the 80's I had a Radio Shack walkie 5 channel 4 watts. we could get about a quarter mile at best with them. night time is always better condition wise. shooting skip still seems to be the best time on Sunday's. I still have a Regency 40 channel with SSB. has an echo chamber on it, and was hooked up to a Heath kit SB-200 with a foot pedal. I had a Varmint 150 to drive the 200. still have the Varmint and a Maverick 250 ten tube amp. along with a Night K D-104. haven't used it in years. the FCC could care less now,but, back in the 70's they played hardball. I knew a guy (Green Hornet) had a Browning two piece tube 23 channel hooked up to a VFO running a Black Cat 5,000 watt amp with dual quad Wilson antenna on a 60 ft tower. the FCC took everything he had and gave him a stiff fine which the number escapes me, but, they nailed him good. since I haven't been in that neck of the woods, I don't know how well the talkies will work. my guess would be you would have to land pretty close to the guy on the ground. that leads Cooper to pinning a jump spot which I find hard to believe. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I hope you are not stating the the countertop in the picture with Powell is same as you have? it appears to be a solid color. cross members in attics can be found. there is no solid evidence supporting that the only access was from the outside since the house was built in 1940. the 2x4 you are claiming he installed also looks to be of the same circa as the rest of the framing. it could of also been the original opening into the attic. just by watching the show it appears the wood was laying on top of the insulation. the picture shown here is less than a second after he pulls upward on the board. you can't see any other existing 2x4. there is also a piece of metal stripping laying on top of the wood. I found it strange they didn't show the entire area. then they added it was hinged. the reason I say it might be staged is the fact of how quick they found the void. the void also appears as if someone pulled back a corner of the insulation. that's a guess though. the circular opening at the entrance outside was installed when they put the new siding on the exterior of the house. the original opening appears to have been square. this is the part he pushes back inside the attic. you can see where they custom fit the new opening. this again might be evidence that it was originally only a vent and never was an access point. evidence of new 2x4's added at a different time are clearly apparent by the color of the wood shown in the last photo. even years apart can be noticeable. the house has been completely gutted from top to bottom. how that piece of wood stayed in it's original area would be a miracle. based on what producers do today, I can't put any validation into this being a hiding spot from 1971. money in the attic (not supported) money found out back (no evidence,,hearsay) then Kenny puts money on Tena bar? too much to believe. I base my knowledge from being a carpenter in the past. I have flown many a roof's being a crane operator. I'm currently licensed in steel and aluminum fabrication with certification of forklifts, swing stages, aerial lifts of all types such as boom lifts, Scissorlifts, scaffolds, wall climbers and a Bosun chair, which consists of fly by the seat of your pants I have a 10 hr & 30 hour OSHA safety certification. so, forgive me if I'm a little skeptical about this. I could be wrong, but, my experience is telling me different. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"Will be jumping again on Oct 12" what happened with the walkie talkie test. are you still going to do it? kind of interested in that... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

there is no clear evidence Robert. all you basically have is a bunch of people screaming KC was Cooper. (hearsay) you can't prove where the money came from, so you really can't use that. (speculation) I don't think LD is clear either, so, I don't get that point either. I don't think the FBI is going to sit on a suspect. technically I don't think any of them have been ruled out. at least not publicly. I can't buy the fact of Tina not knowing she was talking to someone the same height as her and didn't notice a wig? you can play the faulty description & shock card all day long. one of the reviews of your book wrote this. so, it's not just the people here. I tend to agree with this individual. "At best, this apparently printed-on-demand book is an article in a second-rate (or third-rate) magazine, with the title demonstratively false. Much of the cobbled-together speculation of who D.B. Cooper really was details how the editor interviewed a few people, including what purports to be a transformed verbatim interview with the co-pilot of the skyjacked plane. In separate parts, the text reports that the stewardess who spent the most time with the skyjacker "became a nun for several years, but later returned to ordinary life" and that "she did not become a recluse after the hijacking." The pictures are poor-quality and, for some reason, include one of one of the authors and his car. It has no index, a sign it shouldn't be taken too seriously, and a few pages about the authors being on a cable t.v. show peddling their at-best circumstantial case that the man they researched was D.B. Cooper. To believe the authors, you have to accept the fact that though the FBI sketch of Cooper, agreed on by many witnesses including the stewardess who sat next to him for at least an hour, was widely-circulated at the time, none of the alleged suspects co-workers or family or friends either saw the picture or connected him with the incident, very unusual as he worked for Northwest Airlines at the time, the same carrier that was skyjacked. The book is akin to those advancing some spurious explanation of who killed JFK, or how it really was Elvis who was sighted at a Burger King in Kalamazoo." other people outside this form agree with speculation & circumstantial. so, how can you say "The evidence is clear" I'll say the same as I do to Jo. I just can't buy into it. there is nothing really here. it seems you go to far against the known evidence. just telling it as I see it...... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

until I see any real evidence against KC. I think I will take the same stand the FBI has about him. here is what two FBI agents think about KC. "I'm sure he absolutely believes his brother is D.B. Cooper," said Larry Carr, who has been the lead investigator on the case for just over a year. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you."He's not a viable suspect," FBI spokeswoman Robbie Burroughs said." hearsay evidence can make anything look good. this story has been around for almost a decade, and yet none of the living witnesses have come forward to say anything. a television show that millions watched has not been helpful in anyway other than fueling the uninformed into believing. KC had a grudge against NWA. Cooper didn't. he doesn't fit the description at all. the whole story started from Lyle. a person not trusted by anyone including the main person pushing KC? evidence, or coincidence? if you ask me. it's been shaped into one big myth for the purpose of profit more than anything else IMO. Paul, can you provide any proof the FBI has closed this case? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

ok, well, I just think the whole thing is a little out of the ordinary. I can understand where if someone was to ask Lyle about a book or movie thingy and you have something signed with him to only allow it to go thru you. what I don't understand is the legal implications you would have on someone stating anything about KC that has nothing to do with your research. how do you own rights to a story that is not 100% factual, or proven who he was on November 24, 1971? if I'm not mistaken Bruce has taken this from Gray who spoke with one of the kids who lived there. have you interviewed him? just because some of your sources tells one thing doesn't mean they are true either. I don't see the grounds you have for a case. If evidence came forward about KC not being Cooper (real proof) what will you do in order to protect KC in the future? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I think this is the fourth post now where I've said we no longer care about that particular passage. People do have a right to change their minds on an issue, you know. Let Bruce answer the questions from readers about it, if any are even asked. We even SUPPORT the book, and endorse it to others. I made a post about this on his latest article at Mountain News. When his book comes out at Amazon or wherever it ends up, we will do a link to the purchase site if he wishes, under our Links and Friends page. If he needs it formatted properly for the Kindle, we can do that as well. I've even offered to assist him in setting up a publishing account at Amazon. It's free. All you need is a bank routing number and either a Tax ID Number, or a responsible SSN. We've even offered to edit the ms for spelling and grammar. Our line editor has a Masters in English and taught that subject for 30 years. Any style editing is up to Bruce, but seeing the ms I don't think that's necessary. I think all of those items show full support for his book. Our opinion around here lately on his book is like this: Another Cooper book can't hurt. There are few enough of them already. how did the lawyers get into the story then? I'm confused about all of this. Bruce says you threatened legal action. I understand the part about changing of the minds. I don't believe you have made that clear if any action was taken? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I don't think you have any legal rights on what Bruce does with his book.... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

No problem..I've don e similar things myself. enjoy your cruise "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Bob, I take it you were reading back into the thread. the reply you are giving is from a post in 2009. I don't think they have allowed snowman's return...... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

old Bobby must be telling the truth...... Bob says: "I was not drafted." I went to my Induction on a Saturday? Bob says: "John Anderson, the very same one who ran for prez." no John Anderson fitting Bob's story can be found in the military. Bob says: he learned the stitching on the container. the panels were sewn shut, not the container. Bob says: "I was a college drop out." University of Minnesota-Twin Cities Industrial Development 1961 – 1966 Dunwoody Institute Makato State University Manhatten Fiberglass Education Hennepin VoTech who is TOG? Bob says "Bill Rataczak" the list goes on and on....... The truth comes out when you read everything Bob claims. he forgets a lot of his deception which burns him later down the road. then quickly shifts the blame onto the person finding his error's. I was able to trace where Bob came from.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa1Gx4-LwNg "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

same down here (rain) looks like next week is a washout as well. also looks as if we escaped another year with no Hurricanes. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

the only thing Bob needs to improve is the way he presents his story. John Anderson could not be found anywhere according to several Military branches I contacted. I only know of two John Anderson's. one tells Bob's story pretty good just by the title. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHOsgJta_4Y "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

" One thing is certain. If Cooper really tossed that money out there to make the FBI think he was dead, or to create confusion on where he actually came down, he succeeded." hasn't the FBI always claimed in the past Cooper died? there has been confusion about the case since November 24, 1971. So, how does this change anything? they don't even know where he landed. how do you plant money to throw off the Feds? they were never on his trail. the money only adds to the confusion already put in place many years prior. can you be 100% positive that the FBI & NWA didn't come to there own conclusions on how this would be presented to the public? has history shown this to be a fact that people come forward years later telling a different story, or how they were told to tell it? "loose lips sink ships" you would make a horrible Prosecutor. you seem to have too much trust in people. I'm not saying all of this is true, but, I'm open minded enough to realize something is wrong. you have to look at everyone as a suspect. I don't even understand the point of you promoting KC. you have stated many times Lyle is not reliable. where did the story originate from? if what Bruce said a couple days ago is true, why would Lyle be getting involved in another story? maybe he will put a patent on this one. another notch in his invention path? didn't it take a fire at Little Big Horn for the truth to finally come out about what the Indians have stated for over a 130 + years? added: here is what the FBI thinks of some people pushing suspects. "I'm sure he absolutely believes his brother is D.B. Cooper," said Larry Carr, who has been the lead investigator on the case for just over a year. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you."He's not a viable suspect," FBI spokeswoman Robbie Burroughs said. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Thanks Mark, I didn't know her well. she was on one of my Facebook pages. probably been over a year since I spoke with her. sad news. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

how exactly did you use "smart erase" in your document? isn't that mainly for images. text can be blurred out, but it appears you simply erased it and type in the wording? kind of making it something it's not. the idea of advertising on the document is troubling in itself.....very tacky. today, Identity Theft happens with the deceased in a small window after death. you really can't do anything with KC's Identity 20 years later. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

this should be directed at Blevins, but, I wanted your opinion on this. " Well, our crew on board was 99% sure they were correct...'" and yet Rataczak, a member of the crew who was part of the 99% says the Cooper jumped 10-15 minutes after the 8:05 mark. this puts Cooper 10+ miles south of the original position. I wonder what percentage he gives on this claim? certainly doesn't match the 99% rate? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Bob, the truth doesn't lie within you. you claimed Janet could see a man on the stairs. then you place Cooper on the west side of the Columbia a mile and half before Janet would have seen a man on the stairs. when one talks too much, one makes many mistakes. when one doesn't supply any proof. that person is not reliable.....you are not fooling anyone here. you can shift the blame all day long onto me. it won't work..... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

wow, Dougan Falls if I'm correct is around 17 east of the flight path. the area R99 speaks of is in the flight path area. what I find strange is Ralph H. was that far down the path looking for Cooper. this brings us back to Rataczak's time frame. if H was at PDX and was listening to the chatter with the only POSSIBLE publicly known jump announcement at 8:10/8:12 (transcripts) why was he down there? West Linn is 15 miles directly south of PDX, or 13 NM. if the chopper was facing east, they would climb and turn to the south or to the right heading to west linn? the next question is from what point is 12 miles north of Portland. does he mean from PDX. that puts it around BTG. just by reading all of these accounts on where they thought the jet was they are literally all over the map. the smart guys are not looking to smart right now. we have reports of the Woodland area, La Center, Dougan Falls, Orchards, West Linn. the C-130 dudes seem to be the only actual contact with the plane. what was there conclusion? where they taken into account while making the path? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"Yet, Jo says that Rataczak told her that 305 was closer to V-23 and saw the lights of Portland and Vancouver coming up as he approached the WA-OR border." this is plausible in my opinion. that is if he could see thru the clouds. the best spot for him to see Portland & Vancouver would be the 8:15 spot on the map. this would be from the co-pilots seat looking out the side window. was it an opening in the clouds, a glow thru the clouds? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"Maybe one or two, at most three important questions should be asked. If the letter is done well, that might be all you would need. Flying both routes, if they differ, makes perfect sense." I think something like this would interest him a lot. once I have his attention, I can start asking questions. I already have information about how the plane was flown to certain extents that are not publicly known. this would help confirm them. I hope you are now understanding the importance of where the plane was in order to help find the actual dropzone. or sadly the point of impact I don't know if anything can be found, but it's worth a shot. this is for Robert99. could you repeat again where Ralph said he was with the helicopter? I would like to fly around that area. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Interesting stuff. thanks..... (TDS) they make it sound like a disease "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"It's almost like you're afriad of what he might say." let's be a little realistic here Robert. I'm not afraid of anything he would say. I just told you a letter would be the best result. I would like this option. not anyone else. I would touch base with him first of all. I would then explain my project to him. I wouldn't jump right into asking a million things from him. the main goal here is to see if the path can match the time frames. if we find other options such as Rataczak stating a different version. two different paths will be plotted out. we could possibly find answers between the two. thats if his reply differs greatly with the known path. I'm not going to send him a quiz. I think this would interest him enough to call me. I know you are trying to help,but, do not do anything without consulting me if it has anything to do with my project. any outside information dealing with the original flight path will be skewed. as mentioned above. if we find out later the path is different according to the guy who flew the plane. we will then no longer have the original flight path. so, once again we fly the path the way the FBI believes it to be, and has been this way for 40+ years. then compare it to what Rataczak and possibly other sources tell us and make a separate path. this way both are verified. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI