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I was watching jumps on You Tube, then came across wing suits. those guys are crazy! the list gets smaller each year with them being killed. I seen a guy hit a bridge, a guy hit a side of a mountain (chute didn't deploy) another guy skipped off a cliff and lived. very dangerous sport. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Shutter, That is beautiful work. Thanks R99. it's times like these when hard work really pays off. City Furniture was highly impressed as well. pic is going right on our website "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I found out that building things is a great stress reducer. I just finished some of my best work. the picture below is called aluminum cable railing system (only on the stairs) the rest has safety glass instead of cable. 2 months in the making from engineering to completion. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

you still lack any proof on many things. what you showed on Kenny's DD214 was that he took training for a paratrooper. nobody seems to be able to link him to a unit. truth is that's all you need, but you have two different versions of what unit he was in. The apartment is really not proving anything. can you state whether it was low income housing? you make it sound as if it was. (crap) according to what Lynn Rattenbury said about the house, she says the countertop was not in place when they bought the property. she guessed where the kitchen was by the plumbing in the wall. that house has changed dramatically since 1971. The purchase of the house in cash has come under fire due to lack of documentation. what is the hold up there? Gray responds to me within hours. you have to show proof of things, I'm sure you realize this, because you demand the same when challenging anything. nobody has said you made this up. proof tells the story. proof is not just what Gray says either. proof is proper legal documentation backing up a story someone is speaking of, or something in writing helping the cause. you don't trust anything Lyle says (the one who started this) you say, or others say Bernie was a Liar and a crook. how can you stand behind this mess? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Robert, what gives you the impression that the Rainview Apartments were "crap" in 70/71? seems they were built in the late 60's, so they were not that old during that time period. maybe it was cheap enough for him to stock pile money for future investments? If you read the reviews today, it's a dump. actually it's mixed reviews. seems a lot of you folks sugar coat things to make them seem worse than they really appear. the "ditch" the tough times, a piece of wood in the attic. you take a set of circumstances and turn them into facts, or make them appear to be facts in order to beef up the claim. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxauqa7rJgI "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

LOL do your research. Even Bruce Kitt, the NWA museum guy they interviewed for Decoded said the employees went on strike so much they called them 'Cobra'. (They strike at anything) If there was a Golden Age for airline employees, the folks at NWA got lead with gold paint sprayed on it.

'There is something you should know, but I can't tell you...' samething.....why bring it up if your not going to say it? doesn't make any sense. do you have any proof of the loan to Geestman other than what they tell you? why would Lyle not have any knowledge of the hijacking. then 30+ years later he see's something on TV? one says they ID'd the tie clip but not the tie. Lyle says he had a black tie which can be seen in a photo (with a tie bar) it's just a bunch of static he said she said etc. 2010 Lynn Rattenbury states she thinks the kitchen was where plumbing was that looked like a kitchen sink was there. this gives more proof the countertop could of been put up there at anytime after it was removed. you state he put down $7,500. Komo states he paid 14,000 one year later? You stated weeks ago Kenny was in a different unit than Gray speaks of? a loan of 5k, but Kenny can't replace the old car parked in front of his house? possibly Geestman added a few zero's? very interesting tennis match going here....back and forth. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

But, of course "Dan Cooper" didn't send it. Since he would want to be remembered as "Dan Cooper" (if he even wanted that), the persona he chose, not the misnomer made up by the press. "Dan Cooper" didn't send the letters. It doesn't fit the profile. "Dan Cooper" the actual suspect, isn't mentioned in any of this thread. Well, not too often at least. Matt I agree. I've also said that in the past. one would think he would sign the letters Dan Cooper. you would also think he would of stated something they could verify being Cooper such as describing a passenger or something that would ring a bell confirming he was on the plane.... "I have a secret, but can't tell you" ????? I have a car for sale, but I'm not selling it???? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"Sorry Sir... but Curtis called me and told 2 weeks later and still said I had solved it... . DNA, finger prints, handwriting, are concrete.... " Paul, if you claim that the fingerprints & the DNA match without out a doubt. I find it strange that the FBI hasn't come forward. can you prove any of this? juggling some letters is one thing, but you are claiming the DNA matches as well as the prints. they match all three within 2 weeks? I believe you have been to the museum twice if not mistaken. what was there take on your claims. Bruce Smith was there once and had a problem resolved. Bruce even produced the email of the correction. This should be an easy problem to resolve by calling the FBI. I'm sure it would be the talk of the entire department if true. one would think that something would have leaked out by now? 6-13-2013...it's now 10-12-2013 "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

here is the FBI test photo along with the stairs fully extended "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Robert, the black box works on a loop. they would have to stop the power to the box in order to save the data. Rataczak is also on record giving time frames and the difference from the oscillation & the bump. 10-15 minutes after the last contact with Cooper which was 8:05!!!!!!!!!!! "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

of course it was for the money, but not a reason to say how he got away. "You are right when you say that there's no way to prove (as yet) whether he lived or died. It just seems strange that nothing has ever been found except a few of the ransom bills." you have a jump point anywhere from approx. 8:10 to 8:20. this possibly puts him jumping over Portland area if you go by Rataczak's time frame. nobody knows exactly where he landed. so, we have a problem locating a body IF he didn't make it. they believed they knew where he jumped, but later concluded it was probably wrong. So, again it really doesn't seem strange a body was not found when you don't know where to look. I lean over the fence more that he didn't survive. I use to think the same way, no evidence on the ground, he must of made it. I don't believe that anymore. If he landed the way I have been trying to land my new 727. no way in hell he made it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouwYH5x5_mI I'm doing much better now though "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Yawn...... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

they already knew who he was. his cop buddy turned him in. he made the mistake of leaving the note with the stew. everything started to fall into place after that. as I mentioned, his mouth got the ball rolling. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Robert, many crimes are "about the money" bank robberies, Burglary, strong armed robbery, Bernie Madoff etc. how can you conclude money was the reason "he got away with it" just because we have no trace of Cooper after the jump doesn't mean he made it. most criminals have a hard time keeping there mouth shut. nothing is written in stone of where he jumped, so, concluding he survived can only be a possibility. there are also lots of clues indicating he wasn't as smart as people think he was. McCoy performed his crime with accuracy, landing exactly where he wanted. he was in complete control of what was going on with the plane & how it was flown. his mouth got him caught. the experience McCoy had made his jump just another day on the job. his bravery if you ask me was the fact of him being in a helicopter looking for himself...that took balls...bravery and stupidity at it's best "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Im writing from Quantumko. These letters have been tamper with. The K's are merely (the) R's with the tops chopped off. correct. I put the picture in paint & removed the top part of the R. and erased what was in between. that 's why I showed the original on top. my guess is that Paul is trying to say Kenny picked Reno for this purpose. I should have explained the picture with a littler more detail of what I did with the letter.... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I think this is what he is trying to do. the second line is where you can see Kenn..E See attachment...... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Bob, there is nothing you can say or do to me. period! your facts? you don't have any. stop trying to blame others for the mistakes you make! I don't have any story to tell. you have several. nothing matches up. when you check things you have stated in the past, nothing exists. John Anderson..."yes the one who ran for President" no John Anderson matches your theory. Dave Haapala does not have a communications company. you were not a College drop out as you mentioned in the past. no oil pipeline. no canopy stitching to memorize etc. etc. the Government does not work out of the backyard of someones house. the only person here you are fooling is yourself! If anyone is "badgering" on this form, it would be you!!! Have another beautiful day in your little world..... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Is that right Bobby.....lets take a look at your post...shall we Bob says on "Oct 6, 2013, 12:28 PM" "I know 100% that I am right and NOBODY can take that away from me, EVER. Facts are facts and that doesn't change." you are 100% incorrect (again)....plus you don't have any facts! zero, zilch, Nada, zip, nothing! do not pass go! do not collect 200 dollars! Have a nice day Bobby... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Document doesn't say he SOLD it for ten dollars. Says he BOUGHT it for ten dollars and 'other considerations'. That was the lot adjoining the house. And I never considered you a Cooper Nut. Document attached. Side Note: Helen Jones testified that the same people who sold Kenny the adjoining lot were also the same people who sold him the house. As you know, I am waiting for the comparison documents from either/both Geoff Gray and Skipp Porteous on the original house sale. I will compare what they submit to what I have now. Will post when they arrive. Really though...this house-for-cash question has been going since 2007, and forwarded originally by Geoff Gray, both in his book and in his NYM article. And it's been six years before anyone here thinks to ask him HOW he knows? Now they want ME to provide? It's laughable. But I will do it anyway, since all the serious Cooper investigators around here seem to have forgotten one of the main points that made Christiansen a suspect in the first place...and still haven't tried asking the original source. I didn't really read the document. sold/bought still the samething. that's not what the actual cost was. I also noticed the document is no longer on your site? I only seen where you put in black lettering on the photo $10 for the lot etc. I really don't care about the fact of the cash deal. others were asking for documentation. just present it. no need for page after page of battle. what it boils down to Robert is the fact of you and only you until Paul came along have been trying to convince everyone KC was Cooper. I don't think Gray would appreciate being flooded with questions asking about KC. if you are lacking certain things, just say it. it's much better that way. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

_____________________________________ Your inability or refusal to accept the truth of the matter is immaterial to the discussion I present. Since you were not there or privy to the same information and choose to overlook facts, that is your option. Thankfully, you have no credibility to discount the information I present, as you HAVE no knowledge of what really happened. Since you continually harp on misinformation like Blevins, I can only assume you are on a similar adgenda to hush the facts. Your continual attacks on what you perceive above is incorrect, ignorant and easily proven. So I overlook your bumbling put-downs as idiotic blathering. I'm sure your heart is dedicated to "The Cause" and there is no hope for your conversion to realism. I just wish you were better at it. It is embarrassing to have to read your piggy-tail responses to my posts. Makes for good reading though. How about a "Bite me"? Haven't used that for a while. That means "I don't Care!" what you think, because I know 100% that I am right and NOBODY can take that away from me, EVER. Facts are facts and that doesn't change. funny thing is....you are the only one who thinks he is 100% right......roflmao Bob, you seem to be mixed up on the meaning of facts... still not buying it...... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Bob, you are in dreamland dude. you seem to forget you left a path of confusion to your story. nothing fits. John Anderson is a myth. your story about the container being fixed for Cooper is a myth. David Haapala is a school buddy of yours who just so happens to have worked for NW. the Knoss story has changed many times proving your memory is at fault. then you quickly shift the blame onto that person....nothing you have is for sale even below cost is not worth buying. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I don't even know where to begin Robert? first of all. the names you mention for "Identities" are all public figures in one way or another. there is no guidelines stating we have to tell you who and what we are! simple questions are being asked of you, "the go to person on KC". why should people have to search other sources? we do searches when things are not easily found. just as you seem not to have any experience in property sales. KC didn't sell any property for $10 (*Laughs*) and yet right on your own site you show it sold for $10. Deeds in many, if not most, state do not recite the actual sales price. Instead, they simply recite "for $10.00 paid and good and valuable consideration, the receipt and sufficiency of which are hereby acknowledged." In part, the reason is because that is the form that the recorder's office expects to see. It may also be viewed as a privacy thing, where people don't want others to know directly how much they paid or received for a given property. The actual sales price is agreed upon, and paid in advance of, signing the deed. After the agreed purchase price is paid, then the deed is signed. Dan Marino lives a couple minutes from me. I use to do work at his house which he recently sold. guess what amount is on his multi million dollar home?.....$10. I will be more than willing to show you this if need be? did anyone ask you do do any research on Palmer? why are you throwing this in our face about backing out, who cares? as you mentioned. this is a public form. you have repeatedly posted reasons how KC might be Cooper, but, now seem to want to back out showing anything of value. this puts credibility into question Robert, not the fact of you making anything up. the same happened with the military background. took some 10 pages just to get you to show something of value. you are acting similar to what you accuse the FBI of when wanting questions answered. You are far from the only person "with better things to do" I just completed a $30,000 aluminum cable railing system for City Furniture. 9 days in manufacturing, and about 5 days to install catching me a cool $4500 for my part. I'm currently doing an overhead canopy which is about 750 linear feet at $10 a foot to install. do the math. so, please forgive me if I don't fit the criteria of a Coopernut, or someone who spends too much time in Cooperville. seems most of us do have better things to do. it's a moot point. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

what year was the picture taken? I asked this earlier. there is no vent in the picture on the left side of the picture. it's been added sometime after the photo. do you know the reasoning of why the star is beside the front door? I can tell no long term installer remodeled the home. visible drywall tape on the ceiling. exterior wiring with the conduits on the outside. that wouldn't fly down here. either he cut corners or the city got him with out of date wiring. Formica is about the easiest thing to install. I don't doubt the piece is old. long term installer lol. Formica has been out dated for years. the lose board seems to be a new touch (*laughs*) if you cut the pieces CORRECTLY you wouldn't need to nail them. the bottom line is it's strange the piece was up there. the location seems odd. you would think a simple solution would be closer to the opening. even if it's hard to access they would still find the hiding spot if they went up there to look for something in the first place. McCoy didn't even bother making any hiding place. the money was in his closet. I think I'll wait and see what Paul has to say.......his story seems to follow the usual path of things that are either a coincidence or not plausible. he claims the case is closed. let's see.... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I'm old school. tube type amps or nothing. pill amps are nice, but give a tin type modulation. I could always spot a pill amp. I can take the cover off my Maverick 250 ten tube and light up a fluorescent over it with a key of the mic......for the car. you have to go with pills.... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI