mrshutter45

" the parachute found in Amboy was not from Flight 305 as it was too large at 34-feet in diameter, and that it was a cargo chute." "He also said it was a WWII vintage parachute." Hint: You commented twice on the article..the one that never existed. "Someone 'told' you they received this in an email and you believed it. Either that, or you are making it up. And now your story has changed a bit, to boot." My reference never changed one bit. I simply stated what I read and stated it was from a quote by Cossey in an article from years ago. what could I change? I don't make things up. I told you at the start of this that I was too busy at the moment to say anything further and you went in to auto-discredit making all kinds of assumptions and accusations that were totally false. we went through a similar issue with your trip. you didn't want to listen. If the FBI did get back chutes from Cossey his credibility will no longer suffer from people calling him a liar. you would never have done that, right?

It's also amazing that you fail to even try and verify the article...yes, it's best left alone. it's right there for the taking. a reference was given in a quote. It's going on 4:30 am your time. do you work?

I have to leave. I'm behind now explaining that a simple Google search will allow you to finally get some rest. I'll check back when I return from work today to see if any forward motion was made..

I have to go to work now. it's 4 am where you are?

Have you tried to look it up? it's easily found.

That's fine Robert. as usual you are wrong. you can't claim anything is a fact with nothing but assumption to go on? two times you are wrong now

That's your opinion. an email, lol, no, it's not anything from an email. it's actual a typed out article. here we go again with those bad predictions. you are 100% wrong. Google is a very simple search engine..just try it, you might like it

" parachute found in Amboy was not from Flight 305 as it was too large at 34-feet in diameter" “Since it is an open case I can’t give you any specifics…but I can tell you that we did look into it (the Amboy chute)…I can also tell you that it is not a lead we are pursuing at this time" You can write it off that's okay by me. probably Cooper's, right...

Sure I have a reference. it's not a myth. it's a fact that's no different than the other articles found about the chute. I fail to see how it's a bold statement when anyone researching the case should of known this for years?

You go ahead a call me what ever you wish. failure to do a simple search is beyond me. Google is amazing....

I stand by the statement. easy to find. the statement was made by one Earl Cossey..we all know 10 seconds is probably off. I'm mean you couldn't find out things in your field that quick, right? It would take me about 20 seconds to find out products in my profession were different or installed by others. hell, sometimes I know within 5 seconds or less. I'm positive more occurred past his "10 second" conclusion. I'll bet that was his initial response looking at the chute. you take things literal too often.

I've told you Robert. the article is easily found. Try the new option "Google". you would be surprised what you could find. Cossey himself states it...

The source is there if you look for it.. right out in the open. get the "staff" to find it. I'm a little busy to research for others..

Condition is Used. This is just the canopy, lines have been removed except the ones at the apex. Solid canopy with no vents and in good condition. Great for shade or craft projects. no container. Used G-14 Cargo U.S. Military Parachute. This is a34'US Military G-14 Cargo Parachute, Camouflage Cover, w/ ALL Suspension Lines! no container. 28' diameter The lines have been cut for safety reasons. There are no holes in the nylon. People use old chutes for all kinds of reasons. with/without lines...is this new to you?

Source please? And explain how the container and harness were NOT found with the buried chute...even a cargo chute needs a human being to remove them and take them elsewhere...even if it is buried. Pfft. How many chutes are sold a year with cut lines and no containers? got a "Pfft" for that? The source is there if you look for it.. right out in the open. get the "staff" to find it. I'm a little busy to research for others..

Robert, if I 'DUMPED" a pile of books with no covers on them. how long would it take for you to know that you didn't write them. seconds, minutes. do you think a stop watch was used when Cossey made the statement? Saying it was Cooper's chute was a JOKE. if butts got hurt, oh well. You take EVERYTHING" as fact. the chute did what it was intended to do if it was a publicity stunt, no? got the case back in the media? I never once claimed it as fact. "the whole thing sounds like a publicity stunt" yes, it does.

The placard is another mystery involved in the case. it was found on the west side of the path against the wind direction, or the suspected wind direction. the odds are extremely low of it coming from another 727 with the stairs down. the question is whether or not the hijacked plane had the emergency system on the plane. this would verify it coming from 305. nobody is sure how the placard is attached. I believe it's like a decal with adhesive as it's attachment. not even sure what size the panel is to access the emergency handle. it might come down to getting Boeing itself to answer these questions or finding a 727 with these controls. I found several sites that sell placards for the 727 but they typically ask for a part number and don't provide photo's. even when you explain what is on the placard. The other question would be did the placard move while on the ground for seven years? that's a rather large gap from 1971 to 1978. was the panel originally attached to the placard when it left the plane. lots of variables.

"It's the right size, the right color, and was found in the right place..." Correct, that was an early report. that doesn't mean that was the final outcome. just like they said it was possible that it was a chute from a pilot who bailed out in the area. the spokesperson only agreed it could be possible not knowing all the facts.. Carr first stated the chute was found by the owners of the property while grading a road. several years ago he is on video stating it was found on the side of a hill in some garbage. the whole thing sounds like a publicity stunt. Carr said he wanted to release information to the public to regain attention. not long after that statement the chute was found loaded with mystery. not the type that implies it was Cooper's.

Yes, the T-10 was used in WW2. G-14 is a cargo chute at 34 feet as well. the only markings on the chute is a number. I use to have a photo of another cargo chute with similar numbers marked on it. the photo is on my older computer that doesn't work and I haven't been able to find it again. it was some years back. The G-14 Cargo Parachute provides the capability to deliver non-fragile supplies and equipment using a low-velocity air delivery method. Cossey stated the canopy was 34 feet in diameter and was a cargo chute from WW2. similar to the T-10.

Try to follow along for once....the AMBOY chute was part of the DB Cooper investigation. they came to the conclusion it wasn't from flight 305...are you with me so far? Now, since it's part of an on going investigation they are not required to bow to the public for answers a few want. they have a policy that states that they will not discuss any parts of an on going investigation. that means things that turned up being a dead end as well. still with me? you would get the very same result asking for the files on the suspects they eliminated. you would get the same results asking for anything surrounding the case whether or not it was part of the case. it still falls in the category of an open case, got it? they owe us nothing. yes, they should explain but they don't feel obligated. that doesn't mean they are hiding anything. they concluded the chute wasn't part of flight 305...where did it become evidence again? it's simply a chute that is technically evidence since it surrounds a parachute case. that doesn't mean it is evidence from the hijacking. a container was found in Portland after the hijacking..since it wasn't part of the crime it was no longer of value. they won't discuss that either. a parachute was found in 2001 and you will get the same results asking about that too. it's not from 305. it's still connected to the case and they will not comment. The chute measures 34' in diameter...was that pulled out of a hat? The markings are not consistent with a personnel chute. Those two alone suggest possibly an old army surplus chute. nobody knows how long it was in the location found. weeks, months or years. the known evidence doesn't fit the chutes from the plane. Ask the jumpers how many containers hold a 34' canopy?

It's in reference to the damage of the placard. how it got in the condition it was found. it didn't seem to affect skydivers so what would it do to the card?

Hominid... The placard was on the outside of a panel door that was adjacent to the normal airstair control handle. It was "stuck" there with adhesive. It was probably made of metal foil, but might have been plastic. Inside that door was the control that the placard related to, the control for the "emergency" (pneumatic) airstair extension system. The control was a red handle that had to be pulled hard in order to break a lockwire. NWA did not want people pulling the handle by mistake thinking it to be the normal way of dropping the stair. This is why it was inside a "cabinet" and had the lockwire. They didn't want it to be used for a routine dropping of the airstair because using this system would damage the stair such that it would have to be repaired before it could be closed and locked for flight. If you can get info from Boeing, and you want it to be about the placard, ask about the emergency pneumatic airstair extension placard that was on the NWA 727-51s in the early '70s. It's likely they won't know about the placard as it may well have been made by NWA or under contract to NWA. It's even possible that Boeing did not install the system for NWA. The control for some other airlines were a bit different and were located different.

yes, it needs a break away. pop rivets won't do that. clip will. it appears the panel is too small for this placard. Hominid believes each airline might of had there own placards. some could of been small enough to fit the panel while others could be above or beside the panel itself. I doubt the placard came first. if that is what you are suggesting?

A panel that small would not require that many clips...

clips would be the option to use. rivets are strong and would hold the panel on permanently..