mrshutter45

lol, okay.

Basically, you are using metal detectors that you believe the FBI didn't use and searching outside the flight path. got it.

You can get a decent view on Google 3-D Placard location is the pink balloon.

Also, Flyjack found a newspaper showing the area was searched twice... Ray Mathis, FBI spokesman in Seattle said, agents in the past have twice searched the area in which the placard was found. both he and Nelson said there were no further plans to conduct any additional searches. https://www.newspapers.com/clip/20784821/man_finds_boeing_airplane_placard_that/

Perhaps this will help you. I marked the map showing basically where things are. the wind and path, along with your location...

For years you have blasted R99 about his flight path being wrong and decided to look in area's suggesting the path was further west. the flight path is on the right side of the placard location in your photo. you are looking on the left side of the placard. that is west. wouldn't you rather see this now instead of after the trip is over?

I'm just telling you the direction is not accurate and the location of the search is further west of the placard. that alone is away from the known flight path. you will be looking in area's where the wind was against putting the chute or briefcase in that location. I'm guessing you believe the objects went against the wind and that's why you are looking there? you seem to have the pulse of the FBI. do you think the map was like yours. inaccurate?

Robert, it's common knowledge that hijackings were political more than anything. this was new what Cooper did.

For the time being. you might want to adjust the map you have showing the search area's and which way you believe you are facing on the map. it's wrong. it's not northwest. west is to the left of your photo. you are searching west of the flight path.

the 302's are not to be taken as exact on what is being written. they are notes of current things surrounding the case. they don't go into detail on a lot of things. there are 3 sets of 302's. each differ slightly. some have more than others. we don't have the full story on anything.

Think about it Robert. why would they decide against looking into the employee's. that's like not looking into family members after one of them were murdered. they chased leads from people telling them they looked like the sketch but once again fail to look into the airline that was hijacked?

You can't speak for the FBI on what they did or didn't do. you have been saying they didn't check for years. that's dead wrong. other 302's mention this as well. it's not the only 302 about this.

10,000 working in the Seattle and Washington area? this will be the third time I have posted this. the process was already taking place when the 302 was being typed. even though Cooper admitted NWO had nothing to do with the hijacking it didn't stop them from looking into the employee's. according to Cooper again. he went further to explain that 305 was at the right place and time. Ralph was in charge of Portland and not Seattle which was the main location of the investigation. Seattle had control.

You might want to change the photo you have surrounding the search area. you are looking northeast. actually, more to the north. you have the search area west of the flight path...

You are missing the point all together. you never even thought of going to the location to see what the location looks like for the purpose of the cards movement over the years. that was the whole reason for the argument several days ago. not searching the area. I don't think Eric is going there to look for evidence. I've stated my reasons why I believe negative results would come with a search. I didn't realize any lines of fairness are involved with two different objectives? I believe Eric has expressed no interest in what you are doing several days ago. it's almost demanding from you. he's doing his own thing just as you are. try and accept that for what it is and not for something it isn't. It sounds pretty simple. Eric wants to get in and out of the area. when this whole thing erupted nobody was going to the location at all. it's not a competition. this shouldn't be a big deal. I don't follow why it has to come down to going on your trip? he's not promoting anything. he just wants pictures. he's going to be in the area so again, I don't follow why he should skip the opportunity and go on a trip weeks later? kind of like the mt. Everest thingy you mention. Because he's going to be there? I think the whole thing is blown out of proportion enough.

I don't have a problem with searching anything. what I'm telling you is the card will land completely away from any other heavy objects thrown out the back. just seconds between tossing anything is a large distance between the two. then not knowing if the location is the same from 1971. factors like these probably stopped the FBI from searching the area. if Cooper tore the placard off in anger he would of tossed it on the stairs, especially if he was right handed. If the card actually drifted for miles the container wouldn't. it's hard to even figure out when and if he tossed the container out. it just wouldn't land near the placard. the container has two clips on it that attached to the D rings that were missing. ....think about that for a while. If he asked for the chutes and never intended on using them. they should still be there, just like the other chute he discarded. he tore one up and didn't toss that either. what would be the purpose of tossing one out of 3 remaining chutes? if he was as smart as McCoy. he would of tossed them all. leaving nothing behind.

If you read the 302's. the lab states that all the testing on the butts and other pieces of evidence were complete and sent back to Vegas for storage or to discard. it's possible they threw them away..lots of time went by before Carr went looking for them. agents came and went over the years. nobody is really sure Cooper threw any chutes out. he didn't need the other back pack so why didn't he toss that? the bomb, if fake could of been emptied and tossed. the case would of eroded away years ago. very thin metal frame. The handle inside the stairs was for emergency use only. the ground crew opened the stairs from the compartment under the plane when they landed. the box with the handle can be seen in the photo below. the Flight data recorder box is in red. the voice recorder is missing that would of been below the FDR.. The placard reads: EMERGENCY EXIT HANDLE AFT AIRSTAIR TO OPERATE OPEN ACCESS DOOR, PULL ON RED HANDLE. LOCK WIRE WILL BREAK WHEN HANDLE IS PULLED

It's almost sounds as if they are describing the chute inside the unopened parachute found on the plane. the letters indicate physical evidence. we see two chutes E& F. with notations under the lettered and underlined paragraphs. could the canopy be from Steinthal and they got things mixed up there? they are claiming the "integral part of of the parachute is a 24' made by Steinthal." the second paragraph seems to be in reference to the unopened chute. still could be 26' and documented wrong. They label the first chute "E" underlining everything. the next paragraph seems to be surrounding it's content. The second chute is labeled "F" and descriptions given that are also underlined. then the next paragraph states it was found on the plane but was opened and lines cut. they even got that wrong. 5 lines were cut... When looking at the canopy you will see Pioneer on the harness. they might of opened the chute and measured the length and noted the make of the canopy. Hayden's chute was repacked twice before he got it back..

The one document claims it was a Steinthal...pioneer is another company..

Cossey claims none of the reserves had pilot chutes. none of the back chutes were opened on the plane. serial number 7/60? I get nothing looking into that model number...

"Find info on a Steinthal 60-9707" I'm still waiting on someone to show a photo of the chute mentioned above?

Perhaps, a lot of it is in error?

Find info on a Steinthal 60-9707....doesn't make sense. 24' sounds more like a reserve. If it was there it would have a "physical" label of "F"

Correct, I got it backwards. this now matches what they have on record...28' canopy that Hayden is missing and is in the report from the lab..

The document I provided was in reference to a chute found in the Columbia. they gave the description of the chutes Cooper had to try and match them with what was found in August of 2001. Hayden is missing a 26' canopy...conflict.