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Robert, your adding mystery to Tom's statement. he told me in an email that he didn't bring it up since it was ruled out. I posted the email a while back during your argument about Tome being "denied" You were the one stating for a long time they "stonewalled him" they "denied him access" that's clearly not the case. I think everyone has a question or two about the chute. I just don't think it has anything to do with the case. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

If you don't believe it's Cooper's chute, what would be the reason for all the mystery surrounding it? I don't see any verification of the FBI denying anyone access to the chute. you claimed the same for Tom Kaye in the past. I read, and hear quotes from the FBI stating differently. "appears to be the right size" is not stating the right, or correct size. You left a key point out in your conclusion! Then again, Ms. Burroughs said, “it’s hard to say that because it’s so tied up in knots and it’s quite deteriorated.” "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

What article claims it was the right size? Carr spoke with the children's father, whom he declined to identify, early this month and learned the chute was white, the same color as Cooper's. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Several things need to be taken into consideration. The chutes found on Ebay, or Cl are from owners who have taken very good care of the chutes. Ebay has several right now. a WW2 silk parachute in excellent condition $499, and a 1958 airborne chute starting at $100. lots of factors to consider while owning, or using an old chute. how many jumps, how much sun exposure, or the condition of the chute overall. thousands of military chute were sold, or given away over the years after WW2. We don't know the condition, or time the chute was in the ground. We can speculate about lots of things, but the FBI didn't rely on Cossey alone, or by telephone inspections. The conclusion was based "on the totality of the information," Seattle FBI spokeswoman Robbie Burroughs said, and not just the opinion of Earl Cossey, the FAA-certified parachute rigger who packed each of the four parachutes that were handed over to Cooper on Nov. 24, 1971. "Other parachute experts were consulted," Burroughs said, including some who steeped forward to help the FBI after the parachute's discovery was announced last week. I also believe the chute was sent to the lab. so, at what point do we discount the FBI and state they are covering up this find? they even admitted overlooking the stamp, and allowed it to be photographed. why even show the chute if they thought it might be Coopers? they have over a thousand suspects over the years. will they tell us why they discounted them? should we demand an answer? who was suspect #27? even if the chute wasn't Coopers it's still part of an on going investigation that gives them the reason to tell us nothing! "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Not true. at the start of the site you also joined and posted. at that moment you were in a heated battle with Bruce (again) you were told you need to speak with Bruce be for consideration of being allowed on the forum. Vicki contacted Mitchell and gave information to him to contact Bruce. that was his decision to use the information or not. I'm guessing you flew off the handle upsetting Mitchell, and spoiled the contact yourself. Mitchell didn't have good things to say about you Jo. it appears to be another example where someone who actually seen Cooper disagree's with your suspect being Cooper. he seems to have the same views just about everyone else has when it comes to Duane being Cooper. I'll keep out the bad things he said. Robert Blevins: I wasn't with the thread the first couple times you were banned, but the last one was after a warning from Quade was given about labeling people and you continued to label Georger a "Homophobic". I believe you were banned for something else previous to Georger while I was on the thread, but don't recall the reason. I remember the flow of discussion was greater both times. the same happened while Knoss was banned for periods of time. he also took up a lot of space. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

No rules are set for anyone who wishes to discuss Cooper, and not whine page after page as it's done here. you were BANNED for reasons told numerous times. Jo has also joined that group. you fail to admit you screwed up joining under a false name. I don't care what the rules are here. then you have to sneak around justifying what you are doing which is also wrong. The site was not designed to topple anything. the public is seeing the site, and joining in the conversation. it's still a relatively new site. it takes time. I'm not advertising it anywhere. if they join, so be it. if they don't, so be it. As I said to Jo, you bring it up all the time. I think you are the nervous one. most people don't constantly bring up things that don't bother them. what's your story? VPN's and Proxy servers are not designed to get around Bans. you try to justify that as well. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Jo, the reasons are simple, and have been pointed out. as long as the two of you continue to constantly take jabs at other forums nothing will be accomplished here. Robert99 hasn't mentioned your name. Georger did make ONE post the other day. most of his comments about either of you guys are done in a separate thread. you two jam this thread up, and try and blame others. One day you say the site is a good source, and the next day you go on a rampage. nothing is being, as you call it "reshaped" discussions occur about Cooper. you guys might learn something from that. nobody has all the answers or we wouldn't be here. idea's come into play. that doesn't mean it's Cooper evidence. You need to fix things with Vicki. she did absolutely nothing. she found his address after the email failed with you. it's that simple. I seen what you said to her. playing the victim isn't working. I tried to help you numerous times. I gave you information you claim the FBI wouldn't give. I sent you parts of the thread when you were blocked with the software I had on the forum blocking you. I won't allow you to publicly assault her for something she didn't do. I even offered an entire computer to you. this game needs to end. it's not the first time I've said this. you have a very mean streak in you that gets you in trouble. For a site you guys claim is closed to the public, or censors people, you guys sure have a hell of a lot to say about it though? who are the nervous ones here? Let these people discuss Cooper! Shutter "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

And large sums of money in his account that had the team dumbfounded must tripped while hitting the bricks that week

You sure about that Mr. Honest? Why do you always dodge around telling people what you did to get perma-banned from my site? youy know what they say about people perma-banned don't ya? Post made August 1, 2010 Robert Blevins. when did you join? Second, the book is being featured in a television show which will air in January. The show and the company producing it is a SECRET. We had to sign a confidentiality agreement with the production company that holds us liable for up to a half-million dollars in damages if we reveal any details. So, Smith will have to wait until the show airs, because that is when the agreement lapses. That' like you saying Skipp contacted you first.... How about the double story of the money find on Kenny's property? or the FBI taking DNA from Lyle? then you claim Georger said you have a pacemaker? where do all of the lies come from? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Where are your "actual facts" Prove how you know the condition of the chute? Prove how you claim it's not silk. you are blasting one person, Cossey. you can't prove Cossey was wrong anymore than I can. others including the lab seen the chute, and tested it. You like to blast Cossey? how about two different stories about the money found on Kenny's property? how about telling the world he paid cash for the house, or the unexplained money in his account? these were things brought to your attention at the request of YOU. now, we are "hate mongers"? check it out for yourself you always claimed in the past. where is the proof of the stamp/coin collection? where is the ad ran in the newspaper asking about the money find? you sound like Cossey, no? Hayden has zip to do with the chute find. it does show problems with Cossey's story, but can you prove him wrong, or did anyone else who examined the chute prove him wrong? do you have any "actual facts" of it not being silk? did the lab dismiss the chute being silk, or did it agree with others who viewed the chute. you not being one of them. You have some basic facts surrounding the chute. no more than anyone else, but the claims can't be backup with "actual proof" as you claim to have. it's speculation, and weak at that. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Robert, a bunch of news media articles is not real proof of what you are claiming. Where is the scientific proof you need to base the accusations about the chute not being silk, or anything in regards to the condition of the chute? you are trying to go against qualified people based on lack of proof in the final conclusion of the chute. we all know how articles can be wrong don't we? Was Amboy in the possible drop area? nope, but that chute was. Can you tell me in your research how many other chutes were found that nobody seems bothered with. one was buried in the banks of the Columbia. not the pilot chute either, or the flare chute. This has nothing to do with being "personal" over logic. you can't even admit it's a conspiracy you are cooking up. I don't exactly like they way they left it either, but it doesn't open doors for me to call everyone liars either. I need more proof than a bunch of news articles. scientific facts for one. I'll ask you one more time. based on your research, just how long was the chute there, and how did you come to the conclusion of it not being silk, and based on your opinion, how long would it take to be in the condition it was found in if it was in good shape, or do you know what shape the chute was in prior to being buried? who made the chute? That's what you need to know before you blast everyone around the conclusion. "Try not to devour each other's young when you quote over my posts and discuss them at your website." Wrong again, your name hasn't been brought up in a while, but nice try to discredit once again. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Your research has shown NOTHING. Please tell us how long the chute was in the ground to come to your conclusions? Please show the articles claiming the FBI believes it was Wallings chute other than "it's possible" what was the results from the lab report on the chute? Did you speak with Cossey, or others who help with the investigation? what were the names of all the people involved in the conclusion of the chute find? You claimed the chute wasn't in bad shape. how come your views differ with the FBI? What type of soil was the chute buried in? Can you prove Cossey was wrong based on looking at photo's? I can't come to the conclusions you have based on what you are stating. you can't backup anything against the FBI unless you have access to the chute to make those statements. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I've seen all of those articles. the chute was found in late March. the article about Wallings was April , 1st. how was lots of articles talking about the Wallings chute made in articles early in the investigation? I've see one by the Seattle PI. with Hanson making the claim more than anyone else. he is basing his conclusions on 63 years of time. I think he was only trying to give a possibility based on his memory of what the Amboy chute could of been. I've shown the picture of the cargo chute with similar markings on it. regardless of what you are claiming about silk you are doing the samething you claim the FBI has done. you are only looking at a picture of the chute, and coming to false conclusion based on not even knowing how long the chute was there in the first place. was it there for 20 years, or just months? where is your proof to backup the statements you are making. Basically, someone qualified can't call in and identify the chute, but you can conclude things by looking at the chute by a picture only? "Ms. Burroughs said, “it’s hard to say that because it’s so tied up in knots and it’s quite deteriorated.” So, how long was it in the ground? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Robert's mistakenly pointed something out. how is that relevant what I'm talking about. it was a simple mistake. you make tons of them. The numbering is consistent with cargo chute markings. Cossey also claimed it to be 30 some feet in diameter. do you think the FBI just stared at the chute? don't you think it's possible they measured it? who found the markings on it? Cossey, or the FBI? the FBI isn't an expert on chutes, but I'm sure they went over the chute before giving it to the lab, or allowing others to see it. I never seen anywhere the FBI claimed it was Wallings chute. did it disappear, or poof like Jo's statements? I recall them stating it's possible. why has all the other articles stayed in place over the years, but what you read is gone? You make the statement often, but have never shown any article of value showing the FBI made that assumption. I'll use your tactic....prove it! I looked many times over the last time you said this. They can tell the press what ever they feel is necessary, or wish to conclude on any given piece of evidence. Whether you like it or not, you are concluding they covered up the chute find. that's a conspiracy from head to toe. You also claim it wasn't ripped, or torn up either. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Understand that you are speaking of Robert99 when you try and state "you guys" Cossey was not the only source. the chute also went to the lab. others looked at the chute as well. again, you can't prove nobody else examined the chute. none of us have all the facts the FBI has. I explained to Robert99 what happened with his last post. I've posted the same photo here, it's of the Amboy chute, and another cargo chute with similar markings. R99 mistakenly searched out the serial number on the cargo chute I provided as an example. 1) Hanson came forward with a possible answer to the chute find 2) the markings on the chute indicate it's not Wallings chute. the FBI never claimed this to be in the first place. 3) The Amboy chute is more than likely nothing but an old cargo chute that wound up where it was found for unknown reasons. nobody know's how long it was there to conclude, or jump into a conspiracy to say the FBI covered up the chute as being connected to Cooper, or any other possibility. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Robert, if you read the article right the Wallings explanation is being given by Howard Hanson who was involved with his incident. he is trying to recall something from 63 years ago. It was brought to the FBI's attention, they are not giving this as the explanation of the chute. There is no proof the date on the chute is the manufacturing date. you are adding that based on speculation. "The date stamped on the found parachute -- Feb. 21, 1946 -- is the repacking date, not the packing date, Hanson said." "FBI spokeswoman Robbie Burroughs said it's "definitely possible" Walling's chute is the one they have, but the bureau does not plan to further investigate it." All the FBI said was it's "definitely possible". that's hardly room to start a conspiracy. How long was the chute there, since 45? doubtful. thousands of those chutes were sold over the years and used for a variety of things. they typically cut the cords on the chutes so they can't be reattached to a harness easily. The map you continue to show doesn't even show the correct spot where the chute was found. it's not even close to Amboy. it's closer to Ariel. basically between the two. Wallings received a citation for flying under poor conditions. he was supposed to land at the nearest airport. he started having trouble at Toledo, but continued on. disciplinary action was taken in January of 1946. I believe the FBI did there homework on the chute and MAY of not disclosed every avenue taken, but they are not obligated to tell us anything in an open investigation. Regardless of it not being considered evidence, it's still part of the case, and the FBI will not just tell you why they rejected it. they don't play by these forum rules of asking for the source of there conclusions. it's impossible for you to state what they did, or didn't do. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Marla? it's on this site a lot more than mine when it come to people saying you drove her off. that's should be your super memory side kick

Don't tell me what to do Robert!! you have been saying a lot more about people than Georger has. you constantly contradict yourself. While your at it please give the reason Georger was banned? where did your information come from? You accuse people of things with no proof. just because you get a late night phone call you automatically call someone a drunk? where is the quote about the pacemaker? you dodged it twice now? Georger did tell me he called, but decided not to bother, and hung up. so run for another year on this one. Jo use to call me at late hours all the time, but I didn't accuse here of being a drunk! since you both have each other numbers, perhaps you guys should resolve your problems? In NO way does a few comments about you freeze up my CONTINUED flow of discussion of DB Cooper. you guys are too busy over here accusing people of murder, and trying to discredit people. Cooper is discussed about 10% of the time here. that's being generous. the rest is whining, and accusations constantly flying about. The PUBLIC has shown interest in the forum. I constantly see them, and receive messages from them. I past 30,000 views last week. I didn't say anything about it. it's just a number. I've never had any intentions of promoting it. whether I get 50 people, or 200. it doesn't matter one way or the other. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

He was here for years doing the same with you. it's no different. it does matter to me because it doesn't clog everything up as I mentioned before. you stop the thread in it's tracks here. if you didn't say anything, people wouldn't respond, would they? Nobody did anything about it here. perhaps you should start you own Anti-Georger support group with t-shirts, coffee cups, and key chains. rent out the theater for headquarters.

Jo, you are getting as bad a Blevins for failing to understand things. I already explained that the reason Bruce has be mentioned was from the first time you were blocked. I forgot it was there. Now, if it needs to be changed for clarification, it will say something in reference to needing to speak with Vicki instead of Bruce. Bruce isn't running anything on my forum. you are making very harsh accusations accusing someone of murder Jo. under what grounds do you have for this statement? you don't like it when people speak about you, but it's ok to accuse someone of murder? have you notified the authorities? that statement alone should cause you grief with the moderators here as well, but I've seen zero moderation here! it's a free for all. I've tried dozens of times to help you in the past both on and offline. I can't do that anymore. you are centered on Bruce like Robert is with Georger. I thought it wasn't fair to speak about others who can't defend themselves? Georger keeps 99% of his comments about Robert in the Totally Off Topic thread that doesn't put anything on hold with actual Cooper discussion like it does here. ever so often I'll make a comment that Robert has had the stage enough for a while. What you should be doing is apologizing to Vicki. I've NEVER known her to LIE about anything. I consider her a close, and personal friend. I've seen the emails from Mitchell, and I seen the ones where you attacked her. you rarely see her involved in these matches. I need to be more like her myself. the ban can easily be removed by discussing the issue in a mature manner with Vicki. it's rather simple. Shutter "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Do you mind quoting that please. I don't like liars either. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Lets get something straight here that you obviously have once again taken it upon yourself to scramble the story. First of all the emails are valid, true, actual, and have said things about someone who probably contacted them to no end which can lead someone to saying the things that have been said. Caution, logic bomb falling..... The emails are not about you! none of this has ANYTHING to do with one Robert Blevins. if you read the post correctly the bottom portion was addressed to Jo, and not Robert Blevins. Mitchell never brought up your name! Careful who you try and defend when you don't have all the facts. this is a typical pattern with you showing how you can manipulate things by not understanding it in the first place! you were so far off base with the "other bosses" it's ridiculous how you read into things. Mitchell is a normal human being with faults just like anyone else has. I'm sure he had good reason to say the things he said. I don't have the right to exploit the emails here. go to the source as you often say. I have told you, and Jo that I've read the emails that were sent to me. they are legit, and I stand by the person who received them. You guys are in complete personal attack mode that is completely out of control. it's a typed version of Jerry Springer live! Added: I thought after your first failed attempt of contacting Mitchell via US mail you got it right the following time it was delivered? what happened? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

The reference was the original one when she was removed from the forum due to her battles with Bruce. that's why you see what is written in the reply. I forgot that was there. How in the world did you come to a conclusion I have "other bosses" this shows once again how you can falsely accuse someone of something you haven't a clue about. You both whine about freedom of speech along with not being able to defend yourself, but have no problem blasting away at Cook, Georger, and Meyer who can't defend themselves here. both of you are in a full blown personal attack mode. which I believe breaches the rules here. A ban is a ban. you have been banned from this forum several times, just not a "perma-ban" as you call it. you have been Perma-banned from my forum for signing up under a false name. so you basically fit in the same category you try and discredit others with. Jo, I will say one thing. I was informed that Vicki did contact you about the article you found about possibly being her father. I apologize for doing a Blevins and not checking all the facts. that still doesn't excuse you from calling her a liar. then you contact me accusing me of working for the Government to shield the truth? ".he is a shield for the FEdERAL goverment. Beginning t think you are." I have tried to reason with you many times over the several years I've known you, but you are extremely stubborn. I consider Vicki a real friend, not just on the internet. I don't like what you are saying about her. Mitchell didn't have good things to say about you, perhaps that is the core of the problem. I don't know, but the riot control needs to be called in here.... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I have no problem with you thinking you have everything straight. more power to ya. however, making the point of remove this, and remove that seems to be a specialty you do when you find bad comments about yourself. you went on for years with the ridiculous "filthy comments" from 2011? you went to extremes to have them removed from that site, and others. that's what I mean about you taking your time to remove the error's about Kenny. You are not an investigator by the way. you are a part time writer who is researching the possibility of Kenny being DB Cooper. I am a researcher as well. I like the challenge of researching the case, along with known suspects, but don't claim to be an investigator. If you were a actual investigator you would know to be short and to the point in your report to the FBI, not a detailed novel. 85 pages, seriously? full pages? It's not just your articles "out there" lots of other sites took your error's and continued to print them as facts. why not contact them like you did with the filthy comments, CNN and correct the wrongs? You like the claim you are always busy? why should we need to know this? nobody else has a life? I just worked 25+ days straight. am I approved now? I don't have the option you do to post all the time while busy? You flip flop through everything. including taking a break from this forum. the only actual time this has occurred is when you get put on vacation. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I don't have a problem with you presenting Kenny as a suspect. I have a problem with your approaches. you fail to understand a lot of points against him. you failed in the past to do simple research of records. you failed to acknowledge things that make more sense once uncovered. It took a lot of pressure to get to to remove the error's. one just recently that has been known for over a year now. It's all over the place that Kenny purchased his house in cash. the money in his account is a mystery with error after error. this puts false conclusions into there minds. You strive endlessly to remove things said about you, but take your time removing things that make Kenny not so good as a suspect. I don't have any "Hatred" against you. I don't even know you. I know how you act, but that doesn't mean I hate you. Jo has really disappointed me more than any other poster in this forum. it was very disrespectful to make such a statement about a father who has been missing for 40 + years. she can drag Duane through the mud, but don't make claims like that about family members, especially about ones who post here, and on my forum, and, telling her to go to hell to boot. those should be grounds for removal IMO. anything goes here for some reason? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI