mrshutter45

The discussion at the moment is not whether Kenny was Cooper, it whether you are adding to the story. You are always the first to scream LIAR to a lot of people. how did it get to the point of two agents showing up at Lyle's house? so, do we have 4 agents involved in this? two from Boston, and two from Minnesota? several times you claim you spoke with the FBI only two times, but you have a trail of contacting them with a response a lot more that than that. two agents from Seattle, two agents from Minnesota, two agents from Boston. they travel in pairs I guess. Nobody's worried about anything Robert. you should be worried about credibility though. I have absolutely nothing to get worried about, or upset with anything to do with this case. nothing about any of this is worth losing sleep over. It seems at every turn with the Kenny saga something is either misquoted, or completely false. nothing adds up anymore. no cash deals, no agents snooping around, and no credible witnesses have come forward, or given any type of actual Testimony. Do you really think you have the right to tell your "public" that it's a mystery why Kenny had so much money just before he died? is it right that websites still carry on about Kenny purchasing his "modest home" in cash? that's a grey area for lies as well, but basically it's poor investigating. you would be screaming LIAR for months if someone else had mistakes like these. When you open your wallet up, no badge is found. you don't have the skills you think you have. it's very clear to see. Skipp has a badge, but failed to properly investigate Kenny as well. I don't claim to be nothing more than what I am. I research this case as a hobby. if I was in your position, I would of found the proper resources to handle the investigation if I felt something was evident and worth the time. In the future you might want to back off walking tall with a big stick. that stick might jump out of your hands and land between your eye's looking like that little wood puppet dude. perhaps it's time to turn this thread back over to these fine people and allow Cooper to be discussed, and not what happens elsewhere? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Robert, paid doesn't always mean cash. If Gray knew this was a cash deal he would of said CASH. (paid in full) (paid cash) You quote him at $14,000, but you claim $16,500, and $14,500. what about the two FBI agents. you have several different versions of events of on this thread. sadly it's starting to flip flop like Bob Knoss comments. You can't have a story surrounding an error Robert! "Two weeks ago, Porteous sent one of these same agents two copies of the book, and then urged her along on checking KC as a possible suspect in an added letter. (She is a senior investigator now, and Porteous has worked with both she and the other agent several times over the years) " Did this occur? or is it a lie. it can't be a mistake. this post is from a recent "email" from Skipp. either you are putting words into Skipps mouth, or Skipp is lying. which is it? Nobody seems to be involved in this but you. you speak for everyone. why is that? The first PDF was full of mistakes and misleading events. you either added your own versions, or you don't fully understand what others say. if you look on the property records for Dan Marino, you will find a document stating $1. the very same document you have claiming Kenny paid $10 for the lot next to the house. which was incorrect about the amount, and it wasn't the lot in question. Dan Marino's house sold for 7 million dollars not $1. his friend bought the house, or paid for the house, but has a mortgage attached with it! The FBI already has the first version, and I'm sure if they read it and followed up they found all the problems. it's pointless from this point on. you blew it the first time. you can't keep editing things to the FBI. they don't have time for it. The FBI has stated several times, including my signature at the bottom. he doesn't fit the description, and is not a viable suspect. nobody has any clue if you have taken things out of context about what has been said about the witnesses. some are already extremely questionable. some have been proven to have false statements, or did Carolyn Powell really say Kenny paid cash for the house? I have a feeling if the FBI did speak with these people we would hear a lot of "I never said that, where did that come from" Nobody can take anything you say as fact from this point forward Robert. you have way to many problems with this story. this all started when Lyle wanted to make a movie. You do understand this, right? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

You need to read back to recent postings made by Robert99 on this thread - he goes on about it constantly & then others jump in. Robt99 only comes to this thread to antagonize & he never make a contribution - he comes here with nothing but malice...and keep stating this thread NEEDS to be closed. I try to be nice - but it is getting difficult - he had a whole gang chiming in with a recent post about closing the DZ site. That should not be allowed. If he comes here he should not be continuely aggravating & creating a hostile enviroment on this thread. He doesn't post like that on your thread. I enjoy the explorations they make there - it is the behavior of those with DUAL priviledges that get their nose out of place their finger in the wrong place. Robt99 is the worst along with Bruce. Why can't they be NICE in this thread like they are in the other thread. I understood the attacks made on Blevins and I agree - but there has been NO reason for him to continuely attack me & suggest this thread be closed. When he comes to this thread he is antagonistic about everything and everyone....especially me and I have stayed pretty neutral lately - orders given to me by others. . Jo, I believe R99 gave a honest opinion about this thread. he also was responding to another jumper with the same opinion. R99 has earned rights to be here. we haven't! he is not going on and on about my site. he simply made a statement. Now, If R99 made several comments every night for the past 6 months about the same topic you blast him about, you then have a reason to complain. nobody can top the number whiner of this thread who constantly brings up the subject of another forum onto this one! one must have no life to beat that record! don't try and follow Robert Blevins bad habits I own my site and can do as I wish. Robert wants to take things out of context constantly reporting them here. do you really want to associate yourself with him? Matt, and others have said the samething in the past long before my forum was started, so don't blame me or anyone else for the future of this thread! you and Blevins are the top posters on here. that means people are tired of both comments, not just the ones from others. you guys run the show here! that puts the top poster into the reason the thread could be shut down. how many comments has R99 made on this forum in the last month vs you and Blevins? I don't have a problem with you, but you are not helping the problems this forum has by doing the same as Blevins. IT ALL NEEDS TO STOP!!!!! Take the advise of R99 and do your thing here, and we will do the same. it's simple but you guys keep bringing it up! dual this, censorship that, the public, liars, deadzone, double standard. these are also attacks by you guys. You don't own this site, but have no problem dragging it through the mud with the constant gossip of other forums. I tell you just as I told Cook.... KNOCK IT OFF..... 100% of the members on my forum respect me and discuss Cooper in a professional manor. I had one poster who didn't want to follow those rules. he is no longer there, but can come back anytime if he decides he wants to discuss Cooper. I have solid proof Cooper can be discuss without personal attacks. why do you think that is? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Where do I ask for this thread to be deleted? you gloss right over being caught in deception and continue to dodge and attack me with false statements. Is it my fault you are unorganized? I don't care if you have 20 terabytes of information. how much more is DECEPTION! Robert, it's clear you have issues if you can't understand I've defended that forum every since you have been attacking me personally about it. You gloss right over two of Parrots comments asking you direct questions. KC's alleged DNA was sent? you still can't admit it's BS. that's not a DNA sample. that would be a possible piece of evidence that could be made into a sample! what about the agents in Minnesota? who started that lie? who started the lie about the cash deal on the house. simple property research does wonders Robert. what did Skipp do? he should of done research on Kenny's entire background. that's investigation 101. does Skipp also have 500 pages of material for an excuse to gloss over not doing his JOB as an investigator? excuses are a dime a dozen. you seem to have several dollars worth

"Yes, Blevins should NOT have been allowed to go on and on with his using this site to promote his book....BUT the attacks by you guys is deliberate and you are WANTING this site to close for your own purposes." Jo, what attacks are you talking about? Robert has been non stop talking about the other site. every so often when I've read enough I confront him. he has been non stop from the start. Nobody wants the site closed. it's future doesn't appear to look good though, but that's due to constantly being off topic and whining about things said elsewhere. You sound like Robert now. what "closed site" If Robert would stick to DB Cooper I doubt a single problem would occur, except him arguing those points endlessly like the "other forum" he goes on endlessly with. I own my site, he doesn't own this forum, but acts as if he does. I don't send anyone here, nor do I pull anyone from here. that happens from people curious about my forum and register at will. it's not the only other Cooper forum, others are out there. If you recently went to my forum I changed some things. I separated some threads away leaving only Cooper topics in one category, and several different threads that are non-Cooper related. you are not blocked from view. several times you were caught up in some spam programs I applied. I took them off when I found they use a proxy. spammers use proxies, so natural they will block them. I even changed your password you forgot so you could sign in to view the photo gallery. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"Porteus (who still has articles on his website saying the house was bought with cash)?" That's one of those "double standards" he always whines about. when someone says something bad about Robert, he goes wild contacting everyone he can to get it removed, but. but, when it comes to posting the truth about things related to Kenny, he backs off! The filthy comments, he harped on Regina to remove the comments. the CNN comments were removed. he tried to get me to remove comments, but not anything that could change the outlook of one Kenneth Christiansen being DB Cooper! as you said, it was pressure that got him! The news seems to be getting out already according to his "public"

I can't find any websites that discusses the FBI going to Lyle's house. it's only HERE. I also find it strange that since he discusses an open case with the FBI they didn't tell him they never had the DNA in the first place! Skipps website claims this: "At Sherlock Investigations we've gathered lots of evidence, including DNA and Christiansen's thumbprint." what DNA could that be? Lyle said he has read about this "rumor" so it didn't come from him. that leaves two people. Skipp an Robert Blevins! Should of checked with Lyle first you say? how many years ago? in fact it's in this thread that Lyle would be willing to pay for the DNA testing. I had the screenshot, but can't find it at the moment. it's not a recent post either. The witnesses can't be trusted in this either. Carolyn Powell has stated Kenny purchased the house for cash! Dawn J only arrived in Washington a few months prior to the BIG LOAN that nobody ever seen, except family members? Then we have the BIG expensive stamp collection with numbers changing like an odometer

Keep on dodging....

speaking of choices, I see you removed the personal attack on R99. Robert Blevins removed the following comment: Do you have any other function at Dropzone besides serving as the Official Bashing Shill for Shutter's website? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I requested people not to attack you on that forum, not discuss Kenny, or your false allegations with the case. big difference. You continue to blame others for your own actions. you put yourself in this position, not me, or anyone else. stop whining Bobby. I'm going to allow you to continue here with your bashing, and not staying on topic as you always do. I have more important things to do. (mow the lawn) we will leave it as your refusing to answer questions (legit ones) for this "public" forum. 1) DNA protocol breached 2) No valid proof of a stamp collection with a value of $4000,000-$300,000- $40,000-$30,000 3) Failure to do basic property searches on the TRUTH you so willing need! My grass awaits "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

According to your "public" statement it appears you have the DNA which is against the protocol in DNA sampling. Dodge away. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Where is the DNA sample now? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

October 30, 2014 October 2014: DNA samples arrive at our office, taken by the sheriff in Morris, MN from Lyle Christiansen. These samples, which remain sealed in our offices, will be submitted and a profile done. The results of this profile will be submitted along with the new report on Christiansen, which now runs more than sixty pages. Three people outside our offices are now in possession of this report, minus the profile results. The completed report will be submitted to the Seattle FBI in January 2015, after we finish a couple of more interviews and wait for the results of the DNA profile. 2012: I contact the FBI again and ask them if the DNA samples taken from Lyle Christiansen by two Minneapolis FBI agents have ever been profiled and compared to the tie sample profile. Two days later I get a response. No, and no one knows where the samples are now. (Lyle was visited by the Minneapolis FBI after he went public. They took DNA swabs from him at that time.) ?????????????? "we cannot discuss details of ongoing investigations. This includes not disclosing subjects considered and/or excluded, and investigative techniques that may be used." "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I'm a little confused here about the handling of the DNA. this is a criminal case. will the FBI accept the sample after it was in your custody? you have no business getting near it. You claim the FBI lost Lyle's sample years ago. how is it the FBI discusses an open case with you? they deny everyone when questions are asked. Arc Point has labs all over the country. one is close by Lyle's area. why would you involve the Sheriff when Arc Point can come directly to Lyle for the testing. that seems to be the proper "chain of custody" Here is the response Vicki received after going through the proper channels. "During any given investigation, the FBI receives many tips, follows many leads, and talks to many people. In accordance with DOJ policy, we cannot discuss details of ongoing investigations. This includes not disclosing subjects considered and/or excluded, and investigative techniques that may be used. I understand the public and valued partners to the FBI are curious about the FBI's investigative process, and they may rest assured that the FBI pursues all leads that we believe will provide us with information of investigative value." How did you gain information the DNA was lost? You do understand this, right?

How did you gain access to the DNA sample? what is the protocol for DNA evidence. can it be handed over to a third person? something doesn't sound right. are you telling the FBI you had access to it, sealed or not? Typical "Chain Of Custody" Identification of the tested parties at collection, which includes verifying IDs and taking pictures of tested parties; Obtaining consent from adult tested parties and legal guardians for minor tested parties; Collection of specimens from the tested parties performed by a trained third-party professional who will document his involvement truthfully; Proper labeling and packaging of the specimens by the collector; Shipping specimens by courier services directly to the laboratory; Receipt of specimens by the DNA laboratory; Transfer and testing of specimens within the DNA laboratory; Storage of specimens; Reporting of results with case specific chain-of-custody documents. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

The "public" wants answers, not just me. The "public" deserves the truth The "public" doesn't understand why you with hold information. This is a "public" forum where DB Cooper use to be discussed. The "public" doesn't like dodging. The "public" doesn't want to know everything through the media, or PM's This is a "public" forum. You do understand this, right? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Dodge away from the truth Robert. it's all good. you are stuck here......how's that DNA coming along lmao.... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Keep on dodging. that's your best quality

I didn't ask for the time of day. I ask for proof of your story. nothing adds up anymore Robert. witnesses are not being honest, you give them notes about your intentions, cash for the house, bald short guy who would be eye to eye with Tina who said she had to look up at Cooper. it goes on, and on, and on. similar to the whole story. If it doesn't fit, you must acquit

We are here right now, not over there, or at the bar, or out dancing. we are on Dropzone.com. I asked legit questions, and you want to talk about other things. (dodge) You have to have some sort of proof, or you wouldn't be claiming things to be a fact? failing to show proof because of trust is ridiculous. proof is what you need. 1) any proof of the stamp collection. receipt, something from the auction. tax report about a large sum of money? 2) Proof of when the lots were purchased, and paid off??????? As you always say, it's a trust thing. you claimed for years the house was purchased in CASH, and the lot next to it for $10 lol. you never want to answer questions about it, but whine when people talk about else where? you can't defend something you refuse to answer "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Nothing in my post above has to do with the DNA. I asked simple questions, and also gave valid points for the money. the lots were purchased long before 71. when you show proof of the lot being paid off in full just show the proof. it's very simple. same for the alleged stamp collection. I address questions to everyone. I'm not banned from here. I didn't do the things you did. you can dodge the questions all you want. 1) Proof of a stamp collection with amount sold. zero proof to date. 2) proof of when the lot was purchased, paid off, and sold. I already know this, but don't think you do

We have tried to tell you where the money came from prior to his death Robert. He sold the large lot for $300,000. there were almost two dozen acres selling at $17,000 an acre. In 2010 you said this: When KC died, his estate probate lists the following: $400,000 in cash and a coin and stamp collection worth another $300,000, a car, and a house. No reasonable explanation has ever been forwarded as to how Kenny managed to acquire so much before his death. A very reasonable answer has been given. what hasn't been given is any proof of a valuable stamp collection that has numbers changing all the time. actually about a hundred grand is missing from the sale of the lot. Several years ago you claimed the $300,000 was a typo from an email making it $30,000. now we are at $40,000? The Helen Jones interview. do you think any private investigator, or law enforcement would leave a witness with there notes? no influence there? I think Kenny was a lot smarter than you lead people to believe with his money..... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"At one point, your admin Shutter blocked all access to the site from cell phones, libraries, schools, workplace networks, proxies, and VPN's. Just to keep me from seeing additional lies being posted by user Galen Cook, aka 'Coopsnoop'." You live in the past Robert. those measure were taken because of you, and because of you others had to pay a price! you whined in 2013 about comments made in 2011. Schools are on my site all the time. no blocks are in place except the blocking of Robert Blevins. you can see it "anytime I wish" so stop the whining Robert. take the hair dryer off your head. this forum is suppose to be about DB Cooper, and not what transpires anywhere else! that's all you talk about here. Gossip Bobby should be the new name for Robert Blevins. Georger can no longer post here, but someone is making a lot of comments about him. he can't defend himself either, so deal with it Bobby! Georger isn't whining about it like you do! I wouldn't flatter yourself about what people say about you Robert. it's not a form of bashing like done here. it's reality about you. the main point is that you are not there to clutter up the conversation as you do here. goal has been reached

you will never get it. I'm not freaking out about anything. just taking a few steps, no biggie. Please continue on.....and on.....and on....and on. as Paul Harvey use to say...."page two" "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Robert, are you really that lost? I'm allowed to view here because I wasn't BANNED for anything! you were banned and blocked from view the site. big difference. has nothing to do with what I do here, or anywhere else! I realize you can view the site. god knows we all know that Robert. you are missing the point entirely (no shock there) you don't belong anywhere around that forum! you are simply doing it for spite. what "general public" you act as if the whole world revolves around Dropzone? you have basically 3 posters regularly posting here, and probably a large majority viewing it from inside the forum. Things are legal to a certain point Robert. you can walk in a buy a gun can't ya, doesn't mean it's legal to just shoot someone. read the fine print in what you think is legal! The US Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (CFAA), 18 US.C. § 1030, however, might turn some uses of such measures into criminal behavior. In a recent decision, Judge Charles Breyer of the Northern District of California ruled that using proxies to avoid a website’s ban (coupled with a cease-and-desist letter) constitutes a violation of the CFAA. If you were banned from a local store, would it be okay for you to put on a mask and walk right in? You are not using a proxy server for it's intended purpose! you keep whining about things being wrong while you are not abiding by any rules at all here! You do what you have to do Robert. I'll do the same! try discussing Cooper for a change, and not what people say about Robert Blevins. that's what this site has turned into....tie up the thread more....I'm done with you again! "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI