mrshutter45

Shutter, what did you say you did to make a living? Do you know how much an investigator costs. It is not like this is just a local investigation. Gas, expenses, airflights, search time Hiring someone in the WA area - guess what the quote was when I went looking for help? It was after I had gone public and the FBI just was not doing anything. Around 2003 I spoke with more than one agent. Then a few yrs back needed help with the Spokane and the Idaho area - same story BIG money. In Cour'delane I needed a little court and deputy probeing. Checking of some old records for museums and old photos. Shutter you did a better job than the FBI did on Weber - WHY didn't Carr produce that intake Jefferson photo. I begged him for it. He sent a link and all that did was go to some useless papers. I found some State people that helped a little - but NO photos nor the prison detail reports. AN FBI agent couldn't or would get me that Jefferson file with the picture. YOU did it - LARRY Carr only came to the thread to diss me - HE did NOT one thing to HELP in providing anything on Weber. The criminal record he post was even INACCURATE. I went over that a long time ago. I understand your point Jo, but if Lyle truly believes all of this. this is the best way is to get the story properly investigated. I think Lyle is capable of doing this financially. more and more of the work is done on computers. you can't base anything on what has become of this suspect. The FBI is not going to look into it without something other than people rattling things off. Robert, and Lyle are to involved. the media? I doubt they will bite on it anymore. he should be doing what you do. get on the phone and call them, ask what it will cost, agree on what is to be looked into. he could hire one just to put them in separate rooms as Robert has often mentioned. if you really want the truth, and not just a lingering story to try and promote for books, and movie scripts. it should be done. what is the cost for the truth? I thought that's what they were looking for? it's not my fault it will cost a couple grand, or more. keep in mind he had no problem dropping almost a grand to send two letters! I didn't bring the story, they did. they failed in trying to prove things themselves (horribly), so some professional help is needed to get some truth of this whole thing. a lot of accusations are flying around. it's time to get real with it. you can't keep going on and on with this. things are not adding up. people are frustrated from hearing all of this over and over, and then finding lots of problems. I don't see any legal reason why the FBI didn't give you the information. it clearly says it was an alias, and had Duane's full name on the records. did Carr ever admit to this? unless there is a statue I don't know about, I'm clueless why they wouldn't give you the information. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Robert, that's another cop out using a forum you can't post on. that's your fault, not mine! Lyle should have looked into another investigator a while back. it's obvious Skipp didn't check things he should of or you wouldn't be in this position! Lots of people don't trust you Robert, so stop whining about this trust issue you seem to have, but continue to post on the very thread full of people you don't trust? you have so many loose ends and still try to blame it on everyone else Robert. The right thing to do is to hire an investigator to look into the case. other than you, I'd like to hear someone disagree with this. failing to do this tells people you actually don't want to find out anything. you have proven that by calling people slanted who found problems that YOU agreed on! then you let it ride until you felt compelled to start removing the problems from your website, and the old PDF. How would you handle this if you heard a bunch of people claiming you were involved in a Federal crime? would you allow books, and movies without really hearing the whole story, and your name being used calling you a criminal all over the internet? I've been falsely accused several times, including this time frame we are in now! it's not funny. especially when they don't have all the facts! you need a qualified person to talk to these people head on! Lets ask Yellowoxide, what would you think of Skipp's investigating skills? seems he was ahead of Mr. Blevins, and yet nothing seems to really have been checked.....your job sounds like it was a lot of fun by the way... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Lots of 'maybes' and no answer. I wouldn't call embarrassing the man 'doing him a big favor'. I'm guessing from your cutesy and dodgy answer that you probably didn't inform him you intended to post up his phone call comments publicly. No worries. I did it FOR you. He has a right to know. Instead of looking at any truth in this matter your first impression is to go running and tell all. you set off a 4 alarm fire to all of your witnesses, now you go running to Kitt. run forrest run....were you the hall monitor during school years, or the teachers pet in all your classes? Now, speaking of dodging. I seem to recall the value of the stamp collection was originally $400k, then it went to $300k, followed by you claiming it was an extra zero was added in an email that caused the sum to be incorrect. you haven't explained the $400-$300 difference? that's not an extra zero. Lots of maybes, and no answer is what you live by Robert. isn't it an embarrassment claiming a house paid for cash that wasn't, or documents clearly labeled wrong sent to the FBI? $16,500 for the house, no wait, $14,500, nope, Komo news states records say $14,000. does anyone have an answer? "No worries. I did it FOR you. He has a right to know." yes, so why is it a problem for the truth about KC? doesn't everyone have the right to know? keep in mind before you answer with your slanted view crap that the very people you claim to be slanted were the ones who found the mistakes in the first place. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"Side Note: When I read continually that Lyle Christiansen's only motivation was to make a movie and not find out the truth about his brother, I keep thinking of these facts:" Robert, Lyle paid almost $500 twice to send letters to a producer. If Lyle is looking for the truth, sending you information isn't the correct path. he wants to waste money on producers? he should hire another investigator, and have him do a complete investigation on the Kenny C, then if anything of value should surface, you then submit the information to Law Enforcement, and not a part time writer. you shouldn't have anything to do with it past a certain point. the PDF to the FBI should be proof enough you didn't know what you were doing. waiting for LEO, or the media to step up is baloney. pay for an actual respected P.I. that doesn't know any of you, or even Kenny. let him do his job. you want the truth? there it is right there for the taking. no waiting. to easy, or simple? A good example of how things are done is by looking at Vicki's position. she has a few theories, and thoughts of what happened to her father, but, she is going through the proper channels to get it done, and not living off of speculation, or what someone said concluding that her father must be this, or must be that. You don't like reading things negative about Lyle? what if Cossey's family finds this thread with you constantly calling him a liar soon after his death? no mistakes by anyone except Robert. everyone else is a liar..... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Possibly had other business ventures in the area? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I'll tell you one more time Robert, you read Bruce's blog where I said you will not be welcome. that's my right. ten days after the forum started you were banned once you finally revealed who you were. you were signed up earlier than that under a false name. nothing had been said about you by Cook at the point when you popped on. Now, over a year ago we had a little disagreement about copyright video's. you called me a liar, and then tried to say I changed my post. you had me mixed up with another poster at the time. I then blocked you from my PM's. you keep whining that you can't get a hold of me when a valid email address is clearly present on here! obviously I have my reasons. then, I go to your little cleaning site and find you using a Beetles song, and try and claim you were paying for the rights of it via Paypal at a price any fool would know was a phony response. Being banned from somewhere, and refusing to answer questions are two different things. everything is spiteful and vindictive once someone goes against your agenda!. you did the samething on Amazon.com with someone that was against you, but 89 out of 104 found his comments useful. whether you like it or not, you fall into your own category of a Cooper nut. This forum, just like all the others has inaccurate, or hateful things said on it. has anyone removed any of it on here? you don't have any defense against that. your damn right I get defensive when someone tries to twist things out of shape. when it comes to questions about a suspect, and those questions are clearly in the public's view. I expect a public answer. If something personal is mentioned about a suspect. I don't have a problem keeping it out of a public forum. other than that it belongs in the public's opinion. You don't seem to have a problem publicly accusing several people of a Federal crime. were is there opportunity to speak out? does Bernie know everything you have said about him that's plastered all over the internet? all I've heard from him is two words about you "he's lying"...If I was Bernie, I would take action against you. let's turn the table again. what would you do if you were Bernie. I'll tell ya. you would go ballistic. it's in your personality.. you would start whining he has no proof against you. you would make video's, websites, try and discredit him as much as possible diverting away from the actual claim. it would be just as endless as claiming KC is Cooper.... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Robert, you are so one sided it's ridiculous. the only reason you act this way must be for some reason. what sort of "agenda" do I have? it's called investigating allegations. you had zero problem plastering it all over the place while nobody really looked into it. now the table turns, and you scream slanted? seriously dude. get a grip. so, basically we can't look into KC because I'm slanted in my views. we have a problem here, because I think you have things slanted. lets recap. I like that word. You spent years telling everyone the house was bought in cash based on what was told to you. then it takes months for you to remove it from your website, and leave it on the PDF for the millions of viewers you get. Then you state a document is the lot next to Kenny's, and claim it was paid for with ten bucks. this also stayed for months. Then you claim Carolyn Powell really didn't know Kenny that well, but take her word for the money find on the property, and her "testimony" about the house being purchased in CASH,.....when things are found not to be true by a person it could mean they were slanted in there views, but basically they are not creditable. sounds to me as if someone planted thoughts into Carolyn's mind. speculation of course Don't forget your favorite show, Decoded. where they basically believed Bernie, even stating he wasn't the accomplice, but I'm slanted? I have more? I think you get the point here though. the story is falling apart. then you claim everyone is going to beat down the doors of these people, are you kidding me! when you have information that is found to be incorrect for what ever reason, guess what that does Robert? it slants the views of the story. you have this all over the place. every website about KC is full of problems and misinformation. don't come whining to me that I'm the one slanted. run silent, run deep, it makes no difference to me what you do.... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I tried to answer your question...then when I hit 'Send Message' that's when I was reminded (I had forgotten) that you had blocked PM's from me. I've contacted the family by email and telephone, just to give them a heads-up you are checking them out. Didn't say anything bad about you or others, but I thought they should be warned anyway. They're a nice family and I like them a lot. They also understand Grandmother's role as it relates to the investigation on Christiansen. I get the idea they like her, too. FYI: For future reference, if you have any general questions free free to post them here. Anything KC...use my email like everyone else. adventurebooksofseattle AT G Frickin' Mail Dot Com. No thanks, I keep things on public forum where ALL can see them. why are you scared? how are we any different than the media, or someone who would be forceful if needed, like the FBI? you can't hide the truth, nor can you try and block it. I don't need to contact anyone. records don't lie. The "media" you trust so much skew, or get things wrong sometimes worse than you do. The whole thing doesn't make sense. people are trying to look into the case. you want to play the "slanted" game, fine. that's probably best since you were the one who got things wrong in the first place. everything found out wrong about the KC story has been found by the one's you claim slant things. don't worry, I'm not not posting anything here until it's been verified. maybe I should put it all in a PDF, perhaps even send it to the media? You claim this is the best place for discussing Cooper, but you don't trust many on here, or wish to discuss a suspect you have been trying to prove is Cooper? the only truth you are allowing by doing this is your own. that's about as slanted as one can get! that's ok too. I'll just note that you were uncooperative in obtaining information. it's all good "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Look on my forum. the question has been answered, and it's her husband! "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Robert isn't going to answer it. He's going to wait until August 9 to announce it. But, those of you who don't live in Washington won't be able to attend and he's not going to publish his PDF for the public. Sorry, non-Washintonians. It sucks to be you. But, in reading those documents I think Dawn had power of attorney for Richard and later inherited his property, so I think that was her father. I thought this was Bernie's sister? how could the father's name be Androsko? where is the name Androsko coming from? Dawn is mentioned as power of attorney with a Elva Gesstman... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Robert, you claim Dawn J Androsko was single past 1970 correct, moving from Minnesota to Bonney lake? why do I have a document dated 1983 from pierce County with Dawn J Androsko & Richard L Androsko? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"oh, mr shutter. youve misread me. i said i "enjoyed" mr. blevins' postings. i didn't say i believed them. Sly " Fair enough.....+1 "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

The whole thing starts with Lyle anyway you look at it. I'm not saying that's bad, but he had other things on his mind other than trying to prove his brothers guilt. Decoded, the very show you talk about basically put a huge hole in the story by stating Bernie was not an accomplice in there belief. now, in my opinion if they had other evidence that has come to light, they might have a different opinion. it's a show that I don't trust. I don't trust any of these shows. I'm not just talking about Decoded here. I'm sorry but I don't give much credit to Skipp either. he should have checked the property records. he put his name on a book riddled with problems. that's not a dig, it's the truth. how many times did you change it? If I didn't know much about the case, and was interested in your book. I would have first read the reviews. that would have stopped me from buying it right there. when I see the author in battle with people about reviews, regardless of what you claim about them. I won't touch it. it sends out trouble alerts. Unfortunately Flo has said similar things about known suspects. 3 people now. Gossett, LD, and KC. I think it was LD that really piqued her interest if not mistaken. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Robert, being glued to the TV set is one thing. remembering what was on top of it is another. I have no doubt people remember the event. some more than others, but none of this would have came about without Lyle. If he didn't piece together anything, how did you get here? I find it very strange that everyone was glued to the set but Lyle? yes it happened in Washington, and more would be interested, was Lyle the only one who never seen the sketch for decades? that's what did it isn't it? superb memory for people who barely knew Kenny, but his own brother doesn't suspect anything until well after he dies? don't you find this puzzling? he never seen the sketch prior to his coming out with his story/movie proposal? Interested, yes, in the truth behind the whole thing. the not wanting to talk about is it also getting old. this is a discussion board where DB Cooper is discussed, including suspects. you don't seem to have a problem what so ever in challenging anything else. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Robert, posting on your website the fact of not recommending it is called, what? telling people it's hidden and can't be seen on Google is called, what? telling people I don't allow people on there who are involved with the case is called, what? telling people many are banned from here that post on my forum is called, what? there is a couple different terms we can use. perhaps these will help. dis·cred·it: harm the good reputation of (someone or something). Skew: 1. To turn or place at an angle. 2. To give a bias to; distort. ex·ag·ger·ate: 1 To represent as greater than is actually the case, overstate. Can you please explain how you are not trying to discredit, or skew, or even exaggerate the forum? I'm a little confused like yellowoxide is? not to mention the claims of the public rejecting the forum. nope, not any discredit here right? Funny how Lyle seems to not remember much about the case, and his close brother was working there. he couldn't piece it together then, but can now???? red flag. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Robert, once again you go directly into the worse case about people calling you a liar. then you want to take the best case and claim Kenny as a suspect. People have been pointing out problems with the story. that doesn't mean you were lying. failure to check things is a problem. it presents things that can't be validated, or can be verified. Kenny seems to have been involved with properties long before the crime. you also need to understand the difference in different types of deeds, and what they mean. to be honest the only coincidences I see is Kenny working in the area for the same airline. things don't add up when you look at what some of these people are claiming. they sang like a choir on a Sunday morning for you, but fail to go any further in this discovery to anyone else? this is one of America's greatest unsolved mysteries and they take the backseat in helping solve it? you speak a lot about common sense. I don't see it here. who wouldn't want to be a part of this mystery? it's very possible they are not being honest Robert. several of them have very questionable facts. I have to bring in Marla again, nobody backed her up either, but hundreds believed her and joined her on Facebook. now it seems she is letting them down with disappearing. I'm sure you could argue a good 20 pages with one of Marla's friends who believe Cooper was LD, and not KC. I could only imagine the fireworks in that display..... With all of the crap you have done to try and discredit my forum doesn't stop me from looking into the story. I'm not slanting anything either. I have presented facts, and documents to support. I've put questions into the story that don't jive. I've been honest about everything I've said about Kenny. I don't think he is a viable suspect, just like the FBI has said. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

nothing in my PM Jo? no new messages..... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

every single one of those people can be found Robert. I do understand protecting them to an extent, but you are involving them in a Federal crime. you have made this public knowledge here, on You Tube, on National television, and probably every site on Cooper that has comments on them. trying to control people not contacting them is out the door. it's been years now, and I don't see anyone lining up at there homes dying for an interview, nor have I seen anyone pick up the story. there was some hype for a while, but it fizzled out like most of the other suspects. what you may think is convincing evidence is certainly not what everyone else tends to believe. you are way to protective about the whole thing. It blurs your vision causing you to strike out like a Mother trying to protect her child. nothing wrong with that, unless the Mother is wrong..... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

again, you seem to have went out of your way to consult Skipp, but don't wish to confront the problem head on. I really don't care what you do with the PDF. it's the questions that come of it's blocking. I can find the truth with or without the new version. it's all good Robert, the whole thing about Cook is so over rated it's not funny. who really cares? I understand you not liking what he said. the best way to resolve it is to confront it. I've been doing that with you for months! it's ok to ask Skipp about it, but you don't stop there. that's half the problem. confronting the source of the problem is the center of the controversy. I can't explain it any better than that Robert...... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Easy answer. Because I saw those earlier posts before you created the website. The ones where you and others decided arbitrarily not to include me. I knew if I attempted to sign up under my real name, you would have rejected that. Because you and people like Bruce Smith decided this beforehand. So I got curious. I don't think any of this matters much now. If people want to believe Cook, they can believe him, and if they don't it's the same thing. I got pretty angry about all that, but this was some time ago and I really don't care anymore. Since I have no interest anymore in viewing the site, this whole thing is moot. We could go around on this all day but I don't see any purpose to it. not one person has ever claimed it to be true Robert. as 377 says to Jo, it's not worth the bother. I'll tell you again. it's my right to not allow you on my forum. you still don't show any proof, Cook has not posted in a while, but you on the other hand keep the flame going. I doubt anyone really cares what he said. he has said other things in different places. you can't stop it. call a lawyer and shut him up, or call him and resolve it. period. if you read the thread correctly. I responded several times stating people were complaining. the problem has ceased to exist, except for you constantly tossing gas on the flames just like those ridiculous posts on Regina's site. years past, but there you are with the little PDF. you live to much in the past. To recap, I asked Cook several times to show proof. I asked the same from you. I got zip from either side. the way I see it, you are both wrong. stop whining about it, or as you like to say....put up, or shut up! "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

again Robert. you harp on things that have zero significants to the case. nobody put Cook up on a pedestal. you haven't disproved one thing he has said, but sure whine about it. I thought it sounded good. I didn't realize I have to check every single thing said. does Quade do this? My job doesn't surround getting in line to unravel your life stories. he said it, that's the end of it. boo hoo. not to mention being to scared to even confront him, talking behind his back is no different!! show the proof where he is lying. that's how it's done. don't whine about what is said for months on end. prove it. why is it Skipp doesn't seem worried about this injustice served upon him? you seem to speak for everyone. You started showing screenshots after your BAN, and that's when Cook started saying things! get your facts right. oh, sorry. I forgot who I was talking to. you were banned March 5, 2014. the forum started February 24, 2014. the thread started that has you involved was started March 13, 2014. tell me again the reason you came into the thread under an alias? you were banned 10 days after the forum began. you are, in your words lying Robert! I seem to recall the reason was. "I don't like being told I can't go somewhere" do I need to spoon feed that as well? it's on this very thread. absolutely nothing had been mentioned about you until you popped on! that's the truth Robert. remember saying I was punk'ed? even though we all suspected it was you coming in as DungeonsWizard. after the block you then used a proxy server illegally to obtain screenshots of the things said. I have them with dates. stop lying by stating the reason you popped on that forum! the whole purpose was spite, and now it's to discredit. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

That sounds fishy to me too. I've started rereading the thread and it`s going to take me months. Are you for real, Yellowoxide? Yes, to read the entire thread and come to a conclusion with one sentence sends the red flag up the old pole. let's just see how long old yellow sticks around after reading the entire thread. this would certainly be someone who is very interested in the case. Film at 11..... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"Read thru this whole thread. Really enjoy Mr. Blevins postings." "the wikipedia article seems to rule out christiansen, though? confused?" Obviously you missed many points where the FBI also has labeled KC not being a viable suspect. if you did read the entire thread you would have noticed information to be inaccurate about KC. by only claiming wikipedia ruled him out makes me wonder just how much of the thread you actually did read. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Robert, that's a cop out. you are acting as if we have the last say on any given suspect. should we not discuss anything about the case because of a trust issue, or is it only Kenny that falls into these guidelines? isn't this the place where inaccuracies were found about Kenny. shouldn't you continue to allow truth to surface from the very place it was found? trust is a two way street Robert. that's like digging for gold and finding it, but stopping and looking somewhere else. Why would you be worried? possibly the truth is finally coming out regardless of it being withheld, or just plain wrong during the investigation of KC. Kenny is no different than any other suspect. holding back the ability to look into the charges are allowing people to believe the truth is being held back, or covered up, just like you accuse the FBI of doing. It appears Marla is also leaving the Cooper saga. it's my understanding she doesn't post on Facebook anymore to the hundreds of people who were following her. lots of similarities between both of you. what would you have done if Marla only allowed evidence to LEO?? another cop out is embedding the addresses in the PDF. how do you say it? "anyone can drop a few bucks on a site and find out anything on people" the media would leak the information much quicker than anyone else. the media is last place to trust with information. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"If you've seen my article at Newsvine on this subject, you'd already know that the Seattle FBI didn't do their research . . . . . ." That's funny. he basically did the same thing he is whining about with the FBI. "The FBI keeps it in storage and still calls it evidence," Really? first of all it would be, and is considered evidence, and the entire department would be guilty of a crime of covering up evidence if it was really Cooper's chute. why would they keep something like that? I guess he also has the results from the lab about the chute? he knows enough to tell what size, and type the chute was? Cossey is a liar, the FBI is covering up the chute, but hey, he doesn't support conspiracies right? let's not forget his many visits to the site, and articles about interviewing the people who found the chute. wait a minute. he didn't do that either. Does he not understand how many people would be involved in a FBI cover up like the Amboy chute that was made public? I don't think they care one way, or the other what we think. why would Carr who was so exited to find out about the chute, suddenly cover it up? his answer could only be that multiple people would be guilty of changing the attitude of the find from good to bad, to it's Cooper's..shut up! then to top it off by keeping the chute. Now, if they no longer have the chute, which I believe is possible because it was found not to be Cooper's. I'm sure the words will fly for that too. you can't win either way. the conspiracy boy's cover the angles. remember he tried to claim Tom Kaye was DENIED access. more failure to research! the last time I checked, they won't talk about open cases, but he uses the silence as a weapon. a conspiracy tool. Why is every unsolved mystery have to involve lies, and cover ups, or that Law Enforcement purposely cover things up. most of the time once a mystery is solved, you end up smacking your forehead going, oh crap it was right in front of me the whole time. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI