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I dont forget the sled tests at all. I think they provide a good basis for concluding that Cooper's exit caused the pressure bump that was felt by the crew and caused the cabin climb rate needle to bounce. I was just trying to think out of the box and figure out how Cooper might have exited later unnoticed. It is very unlikely that Cooper would have even known what pressure effect his exit would have and figured out how to spoof an early exit. Where is Farflung? 377 I'm sure the crew was asked if anything else was felt after the first bump? I find it strange that the turbulence didn't cause any other fluctuations in the gauges or the stair light going back off all the way to Reno? one would think it would be like leaving your trunk open and hitting a pot hole? picture of the sled added...There were several reports of inadvertent deployment and even two instances of them extending after take-off. Boeing say that after one of the in-flight deployments the crew landed with little control problem and apart from some scuff marks on the foot plates where they made contact with the runway, they were still in working order after the event! Maximum wind speed for airstair operation: 40kts. Maximum wind speed for airstair extended: 60kts. http://www.b737.org.uk/aircraft_general.htm#Airstairs "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

It's just a theory, a possibility. The real jump would not have been made from the bottom step but much higher so leverage (moment arm for you engineers) would be less and hence less deflection when departing. 377 _________________________________________________ Okay, I see 377 -- I didn't quite have it right from your previous post. Would Cooper have cleared the aircraft or aft stairs by jumping from a higher position on the aft stairs? Smacking into the aircraft would put a serious damper on the entire project I would think. The last thing that goes through a fly's mind when he hits the windshield is his mind. Flies have minds, don't they? Hey Blevins, I just made a funny. MeyerLouie This might help you MayerLouie "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"Excuse me, but what experience do you speak of here? There is no 'pressure bump gauge" um, yes there is....but it's not called a "pressure Bump Gauge" care to take a crack at it? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

" BK may not be as crazy as some of you make him out to be. " the problem with BK is the fact of more than half of his story was taken from jo, the rest he puts into a believable form that is also taken from other plausible theories. he admits to talking to Mac just last year and yet in 2006 claims he received a photo from him before he died? went to school with David Haapala, but never mentioned this. said he was a college drop out, another false statement. didn't know the Induction process (said he went on a Saturday?) the list is way to long on his false statements. he likes to mix a little truth in order to suck you in. BK isn't stupid or he wouldn't have gone on as long as he did. BK stayed here because he was safe. other forms kicked him out. once you call his bluff, he returns changing the subject or resorts to childish name calling. I have contacted news sources willing to talk to him, but he backs out. he then says he will only talk to LE or a State Attorney's Office, I told him I could also arrange this, gone again. it's all a game to him. still on the fence whether he is nuts or just finding this a fun past time.... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Can't say I've met him. I have met Merilee Rush, some of the Wailers, and others involved in what they once called the Northwest Sound. Bass, sometimes rhythm when they turned me loose with my Gibson SG. I was the young kid on the block, though. After some shows, I would wake up the next morning in a strange place and wonder who that woman was next to me. I was always polite, though.

_________________________________________________ Answer the question Blevins. I thought that document was classified. MeyerLouie I was the one who originally asked him about this question.... " I have briefly reviewed the Palmer report" wasn't the "Palmer Report" classified? how did you read it? his answer... "Truth is, I can't remember if someone sent it to me, or if I found it on a search. I think it was sent to me. There are two main computers in this office, and a laptop. Also, one other computer which was taken off-line about a year ago and sits in the closet. That one is where all the Cooper files resided, although I transferred a great deal of them using a 16gb flash drive" "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

The blades on a dredge head are NOT sharp, sharpness would be erased pretty damn fast as it whacks thru the sand and abrades away. Did I mention they are REALLLY thick and the edges are quite rounded... the blades grind into the sediment but its the inrushing water and hydraulic action in the tube that would pretty mush destroy any paper.. especially if it was in the water and saturated and rotting already... it would just blow up and wash away to little bitty fibers.. thanks for the reply, as I mentioned it was a thought. now working in construction for years I also have noticed it doesn't take a sharp object to cut or chew through something at certain RPM'S, I don't know what the condition of those bills would be in after several years underwater (in or out of the bag) like I said, I could be way off, but I feel something is right there for the story, what it is has yet to be found? someone mentioned a boat could do similar damage? I just don't know but thought I would "throw it out here" "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I have never really believed in the dredge theory, but, after reviewing some pictures that have been bothering me for some time now I'm starting to wonder what tails the bills could tell? I could be way off base here but it appears to me that traces of blade marks could be seen in the bills? look at the picture in the lower right, it appears that the I or L has a crease in it, or a wave. this could be caused from shifting of the bills. also take note that it also appears to be cut on an angle from the left center upward on the bills. Items 1,2 & 3 seem to also have creases in them as if they have been shifted in one way or another? item number 4 seems to have been grazed or chewed as if something hit the bill? I don't know how long money will keep it's form underwater, but, could we treat this like a buried treasure where things need to be handled with care once they have been submerged for long periods of time? could it be possible the bills were in a lot better shape once they came on shore. there is a process that needs to be maintained in order to preserve submerged items. once the bills have been soaked for a long period or anything soft submerged they would be like jelly going thru the blades (sneak thru) I don't know and thought I would throw this out there, better than arguing? how well would the rubber bands hold up underwater vs on land? they could have held the bills together and deteriorated after land fall? also appears to have a fingerprint under the Presidents head...... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

here is a pretty good animation of dredging http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13RvRSFIoeo I'm sure everyone has seen this right? http://www.pcgs.com/News/Pcgs-Currency-Notifies-Fbi-Of-D-B-Cooper-Serial-Numbers "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Just below the tree line - whatever the tree line was in 1980. Some have been destroyed and some are still there and all different ages. If you look at the old pictures of the existing trees in 1980 when they found the money - then it is pretty easy to figure out the tree line as it was in 1980. What I found strange about this designation was that one does not build a fire under the tree branches. Of course when I was on the beach with Himmelsbach in 2001 the trees had grown considerably - therefore the site was outside of the tree foilage in 1980. Himmelsbach even noted how many feet from the fence the find was. ALL of this is recorded and bet you Georger know how many feet from the fence. I'm looking for the position of the bills. where the inches apart, two feet apart, all in a line together? they could of been a couple feet apart from one another, were they inside a square foot area? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"You've opened up a whole new really big can of worms here. I often think about this possibility, and I always ask: How creative and resourceful was DBC and how thorough was the search and processing of the crime scene? You bring up nuggets in this post. " I have often wondered this myself, he was dressed as a non-jumper. he either took everything with him, or he threw the chutes out the back because the chutes were not found when they dismantled the plane? one would think he would of left excess baggage? I would guess he would have been on the manufacturing line in order to have this type of information in dismantling the floor. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

" I have briefly reviewed the Palmer report" wasn't the "Palmer Report" classified? how did you read it? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I remember reading about the money find when it hit the press as hot news. Although it wasn't logical, I thought that it would quickly lead to solving the case. It didn't. The Tena Bar money is insanely frustrating. I can't figure it out. I have even entertained wild explanations like the Ingrams put it there and subtly nudged young Brian to find it. Perhaps they had found a larger stash at a different location and wanted to see how ownership and negotiability would be resolved. Do I think that really happened? Nope. The intact rubber bands tell a story, but it's encrypted, ambiguous and unfinished. Jo is certain that Duane dropped the T Bar money off an upstream bridge, in a paper bag, but there's no proof at all. Sure wish I had a definitive confirmation or denial regarding the alleged debris field of currency shards at T Bar. It's a big deal if it existed. I stare at my Cooper twenty and wonder how the hell it ended up in a rubber banded stack at Tena Bar. 377 has Brian ever mapped out exactly how the bills were found? Carr mentions him giving several stories? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I'm not saying this isn't true, I remember this site from a while back and reading some of those comments. there is another on the CNN website if I recall correctly, with Knoss, JT, Robert, and Marla. I found those while searching Marla's story. It's pretty easy to find people online today, I would say that if Regina claims this story, odds are she has the right information, I only said it would be better to hear it from her. I really don't need to see the email, but thanks anyway. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

My point is yeah, you can ID or track an IP but that in itself does not mean that it was Knoss's IP to begin with. You need to have a little more information than that. Like a physical address that matches his last known. Or even correlation with posts of his from other sites. Not saying she didn't have this or that you can't get this information ...just saying if all she had was an IP of an post that was signed by Knoss, which is what was basically said, that's not enough to say it was Knoss. Oh well. Enough of this. I've got a bathroom to clean. Yuck

If you own a website (Domain) it's pretty easy to track someone coming onto the site. the one I use has a "site stat" that gives IP addresses of the incoming traffic, among other stats which can be viewed "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

This many. Portland to Seattle and beyond. The real point was WHY he selected 305. We know why he picked the 727. well why didn't you just say this in the first place in place instead of the incompressible guessing game? Its been discussed before. Read the thread. wonder if he know's when the route was started? maybe a reply of 1971, similar to "this many" "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"Nah. Couldn't be anything like that. Right? I swear some people who have been wandering around in the forest for years are still confused by all the trees" "A 727 isn't a 747. It's a fairly short-range aircraft that sometimes made a number of stops on long trips for refueling, right? " how many 747's were there in 71? what do you know about the route Cooper took? I know both answers. I think carefully before I say someone is confused "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

well said, technically is he really digging a ditch, he says this a lot without the picture, this leaves a thought of a man and a shovel digging and sweating his way out of poverty. kind of dressing it up a bit I would say "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

That's what we thought, too...his bank balances, income from the airline, etc didn't come close to jiving with what he was spending after the hijacking. As far as whether he had another form of income going, there is nothing to show on that. Not only do the records show this, but testimony from his closest friends, and his own letters home to Minnesota say the same thing. If he was really doing well, he wouldn't have been digging ditches for Geestman up in Bonney Lake the year before the hijacking.

The viewer will never learn from the movie who is actually Cooper. This movie will just be some additional white noise. But it will probably take some money from the gullible. Robert99 this was a quote from a movie source talking about the movie itself, not actually giving the real Cooper identity "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I was looking into computer robots for manufacturing for a friend, the cost of a robot with limited movement was around 60 grand. the cost of programing it was around $250,000 "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

correct, computer graphics and special effects can also be costly.... home computer can now do this with Adobe After Effects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC7GeRKTKqk "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Then there is a chance that Hollywood will declare that Duane Weber was DBC. He's got to be one of the three candidates. The movie sounds so different from the book that I wonder why they paid for movie rights? 377 I would assume that the movie is based on the book, not making the movie about the book. just tying the two together it seems? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

found this on "The Movie" http://www.deadline.com/2012/06/cbs-films-acquires-skyjack-the-hunt-for-d-b-cooper-for-will-gluck-to-direct/ Gluck’s directing deal is done, but his producing deal is still being worked on, according to an individual with knowledge of the situation. Maria Faillace and Mark Ross will oversee the project, once CBS Films completes its negotiations for the rights to the New York Times bestseller, which fictionalizes the infamous skyjacking tale. Back in 1971, Cooper took control of a Boeing 727 and earned $200,000 in ransom money. Authorities have never found or identified Cooper; Gray's story looks at him from the perspective of three different people. The viewer won’t know which of the three is really Cooper until the end. The action comedy aims for a mix of “The Usual Suspects” and “Catch Me if You Can.” "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI