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+9 you would think they would have found his Toupee along side the place Card Im going to be honest here. I havent read some- thing like that in a good long time. Words fail me. None of these people need apply at our Seattle office, not even in sanitation services. I am per- sonally going to see to that! these people drop the FBI's IQ down to zero sometimes by thinking they are so in the dark? they become the FBI and take over the investigation... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

+9 you would think they would have found his Toupee along side the place Card "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

why would Kenny's brother make this statement: "There is something you should know, but I cannot tell you." why did he even bring it up? doesn't make sense...... Plus: Despite the publicity generated by Porteous's book and the 2011 television documentary, the FBI is standing by its position that Christiansen cannot be considered a prime suspect. They cite a poor match to eyewitness physical descriptions, a level of skydiving expertise above that predicted by their suspect profile, and an absence of direct incriminating evidence doesn't the FBI already have the information you sent?????? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

It was. Happythoughts posted the site link, but i didn't copy that. Just sheer laziness on my part.

might have been this site... http://www.topix.com/forum/us/fbi/TJ90419CQJGJ5NKV8 also 558. Waipahu 94-1453 waipio uka st. William Rattie 808-638-2883 "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I found a Phyllis with relation to a Paul D see photo "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"MrShutter can use his simulation machine to map out a grid" Mrshutter has had serious problems with the new computer accepting my Flight Yoke system been down for 3 weeks "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Robert, what gives you the right to differ with Meyer's conclusion? are you only assuming he didn't have a mental disorder from your experience? no known study has been done on Cooper's mental state that I know of, and after reading David Hubbards argument that hijackers are mentally unstable, who do we believe first? do we scratch off Hubbard and follow you? it's simply a theory, you know like KC is Cooper? I am basing it on what I have learned in looking into the possibilities of his mental state. did you take the time to look into the different types the disease has and compare with Cooper? or did you "observe and make the proper Diagnoses" it's simply another avenue that seems to be untouched with this case as far as I can see it.. desperate is one thing, threatening to blow up a plane with 30+ innocent passengers is a little unstable wouldn't you agree? since I have no background in Mental Heath, I'm not going to try and disagree with a field I'm not familiar with, I would rather go along with it and see what forms...what exactly is considered a "Nut Case" in the eye's of Robert Blevins? Amazon is putting holes in my theory of the condition of Coopers remains, I am currently looking into it in order to find more evidence supporting either way...... pretty sure this is how it should be done.....no? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Good question. Fortunately, the majority of the ash went east or north of Mount St Helens. Especially east. I was up on Darland Mountain last year and the ash there is four inches deep. I haven't seen the same thing south of Merwin Lake. They probably just got a dusting, like some of the other places out of the wind direction. I had a junk pile of wood behind my house when I moved in around 2003, there is still several 2x4's back there that have since sunk into the yard, I mow right over them, you can't see them now, but they were visible in 2003???? As I a kid I spent many an hour in a boatyard in Florida... if you set ANY kind of wood on the ground... you would find a queen termite under there in VERY short order.. like the next morning this is pressure treated wood, no signs of the critters, just overgrown into the landscape "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

" I don't believe you'll find Cooper or any artifacts near where the placard was discovered. Occam might say the placard flew away the moment the airstairs were opened." the stairs were activated 5-6 minutes into the flight waaaay before the location of the place card,........ "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Good question. Fortunately, the majority of the ash went east or north of Mount St Helens. Especially east. I was up on Darland Mountain last year and the ash there is four inches deep. I haven't seen the same thing south of Merwin Lake. They probably just got a dusting, like some of the other places out of the wind direction. I had a junk pile of wood behind my house when I moved in around 2003, there is still several 2x4's back there that have since sunk into the yard, I mow right over them, you can't see them now, but they were visible in 2003???? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"Very little burial" what about the eruption on May 18, 1980 and what the ash covered and burned? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I'm hardly an expert about the rear stairs, but I find it strange that only one pressure bump was felt in the entire flight? it maybe apples and oranges here but have you seen a trunk open going down a bumpy road? open close, open close? no turbulence could cause this to happen? and yet nothing happened past Merwin Lake area all the way to Reno not registering anything while the door remains in a semi open position? or did they disregard anything past that point? I seen mention of this way back in the thread.... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

If he went in as a no pull the stainless steel ripcord cable would last for centuries. If he pulled and tossed the ripcord, same outcome, but harder to find if separated from the harness and container. The cadmium plated metal hardware on the Navy harness would be intact for far longer than Cooper has been missing. Hard to say about the fabric material since its longevity can vary so much in different environments. UV rips that stuff up fast. 377 UV in a mixed Alder-Douglas Fir- Western Hemlock-Western Red Cedar FOREST in the Pacific NorthWET???? The harness and even a good percentage of the canopy would be quite fine thank you. is any metal on the canopy? again still very hard to locate after so much time has passed..... Starting at the harness and working up to the pilot chute, the four risers would be connected to the harness by seperable links, which you could consider to be either part of the canopy system or the harness. Personnel in the Portland area have told me that the NB-6 Cooper used had the shroud lines sewn to the risers, so no seperable links would be used there. Thus the only metal associated with the actual canopy would be in the pilot chute. This would include the normal pilot chute spring and a small "pyramid" type stud attachment that is mounted at the very bottom of the pilot chute and, when the pilot chute spring is completely compressed, this stud projects through the center of the spring and emerges out the top of the pilot chute. The compressed spring is then placed on top of the folded canopy and the stud projects through both flaps of the container and is locked in place by the third pin in the rip cord. The NB-6 parachute cannot open under normal circumstances unless the rip cord is pulled. Robert99 Ok, I'll admit I didn't consider the durability of the metal on the packs, but, once again if we have a no pull situation we can now narrow the metal down to cubic feet in a very large search area correct? and time or nature would have buried Cooper in the 40+ years he has been out there? extremely hard to find with little to go on "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

If he went in as a no pull the stainless steel ripcord cable would last for centuries. If he pulled and tossed the ripcord, same outcome, but harder to find if separated from the harness and container. The cadmium plated metal hardware on the Navy harness would be intact for far longer than Cooper has been missing. Hard to say about the fabric material since its longevity can vary so much in different environments. UV rips that stuff up fast. 377 UV in a mixed Alder-Douglas Fir- Western Hemlock-Western Red Cedar FOREST in the Pacific NorthWET???? The harness and even a good percentage of the canopy would be quite fine thank you. is any metal on the canopy? again still very hard to locate after so much time has passed..... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

let's talk coverage vs amount of metal, one square mile is 27,878,400 sq. ft how much brush will be in the way of the metal detector? the human body is about 7 sq ft, I think we can conclude if the briefcase was there it would be gone by now? a metal detector can reach depths of 25" but how well will it work in a Forrest? how many military bodies did we already have searching for Cooper in the supposed drop zone, hundreds? with zero return right after the crime. If you ask me I think it's going to be pretty damn hard to find 7 sq feet of real estate in a square mile with a metal detector unless you have more solid proof of where he landed in order to justify such a search, even searching Caterpillar Island would be a costly search which would call for GPR or Ground Penetrating Radar along with metal detectors and a good team. you need more definitive evidence of a LZ before venturing out with a metal detector in such a large search area IMO, the concept is plausible only if you can narrow the search down.... 200 Army soldiers and a total of eighteen days in March, and then an additional eighteen days in April resulting in nothing, good luck with a couple guys and a metal detector website below shows a metal detector depth test.... http://www.garysdetecting.co.uk/hoard_test.htm "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

If he went in as a no pull the stainless steel ripcord cable would last for centuries. If he pulled and tossed the ripcord, same outcome, but harder to find if separated from the harness and container. The cadmium plated metal hardware on the Navy harness would be intact for far longer than Cooper has been missing. Hard to say about the fabric material since its longevity can vary so much in different environments. UV rips that stuff up fast. 377 understood, my main problem with the metal was the amount or size of the metals left after years of exposure making it very difficult to find with a metal detector as Robert suggested, using a metal detector looking for a ripcord in a large area would be pointless if not impossible "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

let's say Cooper got his chute open, if he hit the woods what is the percentage his chute got between the trees and on the ground to bury it? if he got stuck in them he could of cut himself down, but the chute would be seen you would think. has anyone figured out what color the chute was? now Cooper has cut himself down, all he has now is the money and the briefcase, odds you would think would be he covered the briefcase and hauled butt outta there with the money. the FBI is looking for the chute and Cooper, not his briefcase that he could of easily hidden without digging a hole. just one of a dozen different ways it could of went down.... chutes stuck in trees (see photo) "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

wrong on Fossett: The 63-year-old financier died when his single-engine craft slammed into eastern California's Inyo National Forest last year, they said, and most of his remains were devoured by wild animals. National Transportation Safety Board officials said searchers found enough at the crash site to provide coroners with DNA. same with Buddy Holly, the bodies were crushed and yet easily recognizable, left out in the elements and your body belongs to the critters, Holly crash was found the next day Fossett Died 2007 body found 2008 more than a few months.... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

what condition do you think anything linked to Cooper would look like after being in the elements 40+ years? how much metal is on it and what would be the condition of that metal? I don't even see a reason why he would bury anything in the middle of a Forrest? as for the body, do you recall what they found of Fossett, not much and what was the time frame on that? we seen what happened to the money in less than 10 year, I wouldn't check anything without having more proof to even think of a search, let alone searching square miles..... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I have seen this site, sounds like a lot of shooting from the hip.not every site will be accurate, I'll see if a contact is on the site. info@check-six.com email address "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Bill Rataczak is pretty certain on the jump point. Like he says: 'We know when he jumped...we just don't know where he landed.' Quoting Rataczak from a 2009 interview: Personally, I never held with the idea that Cooper remained on board and then somehow slipped away in Reno after the plane was searched. Especially if they used K-9's in the search. Those dogs are pretty hard to fool. not saying it happened, but I'm sure it has crossed many minds, again back then they didn't search as good as today and the dogs might have been hitting on a area he was at and they simply wrote it off as a hot scent, nothing to be really read into, just a thought.... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

one could only assume, what was he doing in the bathroom, how easy is it to pull the floor up? back then I'm sure if the dogs were hitting on a area in the plane and they didn't see anything, they would move on? who know's where the hell this guy went! I'm sure they didn't search like they do today, as for jumping before landing, they said they had that covered, 3 miles back, I doubt it, again, who knows? he certainly wasn't dressed for the occasion was he?? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Show me where I say on this thread I'm a 'Cooper expert'. I often direct peoples' questions on this forum to the people who have studied the case in-depth. Mostly I send them to Sluggo or Georger, for example. The main reason I avoided reading the books on Cooper, and went for the news articles and FBI PDF's instead was simple. I didn't want any preconceived notions from other authors before putting Blast together. You start doing that, you also begin trying to fit pegs into holes that don't fit...to make your evidence look better. Contrary to popular belief, I try not to do that. If you want to call that type of research pathetic, be my guest. On a matter of point, I have created nearly 500 illustrated articles for my Newsvine column in the last six years. Many of them were heavily researched beforehand...and a few are considered to be THE article on a particular subject. Some about NASA, a six-parter on missing adventurer Steve Fossett, and one on the Buddy Holly crash, to name just a few. The KC job was just another research project to me, the only difference being I had to go out into the real world to do much of the research, and the interviews. I've also edited just over fifty books, and written several of my own. That's a LOT of work. When you reach this point, or come close to it, then I will listen to you more on your criticism about how I do research for articles or books.

Let's not forget the temperature of the ground and the roots that would be everywhere you dig. you would need a good shovel and a pick axe to get anywhere especially if you are in a wooded area. what survival gear did he carry? or are we going to explain again how Cooper hit his mark and had a utility shed waiting on the X spot? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI