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that works too, and understandable, at least your laptop will have mountain fresh scent "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

last I heard about Sluggo was he was alive and well and lost interest in Cooper...... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

If you seen my post at the top of the page it shows what happened to old 305. parts went into other planes I'm sure the seats were destroyed.... to answer 377's question, I just watched on DVD "Flight" with Denzel Washington Pilot with alcohol and drug problem crashes a plane.....anyone can have the addection, "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I will have to find the site, upon destroying the plane Cooper buffs were asked if the seat was wanted along with the rear stairs my profile pic is of N467US being dismantled B727-51 18803 Line Number: 137 First Flight 9-4-65 N407US assigned but not used. N467US....22-4-65.....Northwest Airlines N838N......6-6-78.......Piedmont Airlines ...............1-12-82.......leased to United Technologies returned 1-2-83 ...............1-5-83.........leased to Flight Dynamics for Heads-up display ..................................testing returned 20-1-84 ...............9-84............Key Airlines N29KA.....5-85............Key Airlines reregistered ...............1-87............AvSales/Key Airlines ...............7-88............WorldCorpLeasing/Key Airlines apparently a piece of the plane surfaced (see photo) Withdrawn from use Feb 93, flown to Greenwood MS Oct 93 to be broken up. Scrapped 1996. Clyde Jabin, who's mistake applied "D.B." to Cooper's name, spent more than three decades with UPI, but died in a 2001 car accident at age 73. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I am pretty sure I know what happen to the seat my profile pic is of one of the last shots of the plane. If we are on the same page I believe the rear stairs were mentioned as well? I didn't know they had Tina's uniform, interesting... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"Get A Life" ??????? Jo, that is the typical internet response, and yet for some reason excludes yourself and others when they use this term? it did not read or sound like a joke, I didn't make any statement about it, didn't care.... 17+ years chasing and desperately trying to prove Duane, you have taken us through just about every state in the nation and still haven't come close, it's very possible that mistakes were made, however, what most fail to understand is I'm sure the FBI has key evidence that excludes all of the known suspects... I don't think the FBI is so blind not to know who KC is or where mistakes were made on Duane....you jump to conclusions too fast on things Jo. just as you do, this is my opinion minus the name calling.... could also be a reason they "breeze" through a suspect such as weber, KC, LD etc etc because of what they don't disclose.... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Jo, it really doesn't read like a joke.......perhaps a "just kidding"should have been added...... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Hubbard is mentioned in the 1972 hijacking....... http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1734&dat=19720129&id=598bAAAAIBAJ&sjid=sFEEAAAAIBAJ&pg=7228,1969336 David Hubbard spent 3 years studying hijackers: http://books.google.com/books?id=EVUEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA26&lpg=PA26&dq=david+hubbard+talk+about+hijackings&source=bl&ots=ghnCYpH64L&sig=7UC0zaivk8oD4KbrhlVpNme7pRw&hl=en&sa=X&ei=xELfUIShLIa09gSB7YD4BQ&ved=0CC8Q6AEwADgK#v=onepage&q=david%20hubbard%20talk%20about%20hijackings&f=false "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

" Mentally unbalanced individuals have been especially attracted to airplane hijacking. David G. Hubbard (1971) conducted a psychiatric study of airplane hijackers in 1971 and concluded that skyjacking is used by psychiatrically ill patients as an expression of illness. His study revealed that skyjackers shared several common traits: a violent father, often an alcoholic; a deeply religious mother, often a religious zealot; a sexually shy, timid, and passive personality; younger sisters toward whom the skyjackers acted protectively; and poor achievement, financial failure, and limited earning potential." Doctor Blevins, I am interested in your diaganoses on Mr Hubbard "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

it's blown out of control (shocking on here) I basically agree with what Meyer had said. it's possible Cooper had issue's, and it's possible he just did for the hell of it. it's just another theory to look into, but, the Doctor stepped in and corrected our problem. we might be back on track soon, as long as the Doctor agree's we can move on "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"I never said I made a diagnosis on anyone" " my job was to do the day-to-day observations on their behavior, make entries about them in their case histories, and recommendations on whether they should be seen by your local MHP's." "I'm big on history and proper diagnosis" if you never made one, how can you be big on it? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

or "batshit crazy" ................ He knows it when he sees it ? Then turns around and says the system he was part of is bad! yea, this is a guy I want giving the proper diagnosis on mental illness?????? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

exactly what certification do you have in order to give recommendations of the mentally ill, or give the proper diagnosis? how many sociopaths did you observe and what was your recommendation for them Dr? did they come in off the street, or referred as you say? "Certified Nuts on Serious Meds." apples and oranges again "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

A very dangerous person. A wolf in sheep’s clothing. A master deceiver. They are perceived as a nice guy with charm and perhaps charisma but when the layers of the truth are peeled back they are evil, opportunitstic and lack character. A sociopath may look like this: They are opportunistic and use their keen ability to read people to take advantage of a person’s weakness. They have an error in judgement and have no regard for rules. Their extreme egocentricism makes them do whatever they must to get what they want without regard for other people. They are manipulative. Their character flaw seldom makes them feel guilt or learning from punishments. They always justify their actions. They lack personal responsibility and blame others for their shortcomings, labeling themselves the “victim.” Many sociopaths are also pathalogical liars and can have a tendancy to commit acts of violence. Most serial killers fit the personality trait of a sociopath One who often knows what there doing is wrong, but simply dosent care. Generally Sociopaths have very High IQ's and due to this dont see many other people as equals. Lack of conscience. A lot of Murders, Billionaires, and Dictators have been considered Sociopaths. Sociopaths use charm and flattery to draw others into their confidence and ferret out their weaknesses 'He seemed rather nice. He was never cruel or nasty. He was thoughtful and calm...' "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Bob, you have no say in anything, you have zero evidence to back up anything......Mac is dead, Mac is alive, mac faked his death.....be gone fable boy.... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

again with a nasty reply, Jo I am speaking about some sort of medical form where they actually measure you, when you are arrested they only ask you your height, same with DL's, I have never been corrected on mine, even though it's wrong on reports, DL for one..... the picture simply looks taller than 6-1, we are not talking about diaylsis in 1960's this is only what I am concluding based on what I see.... you think Weber is Cooper, I disagree, but I don't tell you to jump off a cliff do I? sorry, no cliffs in Florida "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

mental illness has many, many different terms Robert other than nutz. I suffer from depression, this is a form of a mental disorder, am I now nutz? people are quick to judge a mental disorder. you are proof with your own comments. it's not just the crime alone you look at, his actions tell a story his dress tells a story, how he speaks, tells a story etc etc am I in the medical field to say this, no, but in the same normal sense/view are you a certified investigator? no, and yet you shut down any possible motives pointing to a mental illness? but we have to read the top 10 KC is Cooper list because you know the truth? many people live productive lives with Undiagnosed mental illnesses! sometimes it's to late: July 20, 2012 Undiagnosed and Untreated Mental Illness Pulled the Trigger in Aurora again, I'm not saying Cooper had a mental illness, simply implying it's very possible......... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I read it as in the 60's vs in his 60's, my mistake, yes I can see this happening in his 60's, that is why I was so confused trying to understand him shrinking at a younger age, my fault. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

not talking about 1971, talking about today! if you associate him as a Social Path his "Grudge' might have no meaning. I don't think they have put a profiler on Cooper have they? they should! just like the comic, it's not in English and yet everyone fits it in all nice a neat? it's only possible he got his I.D. from the comic...correct? to me it's simply another avenue that could be possible, not saying it is. you can't say he was normal can you? lets set the clock back to 1971, I ask you to do the hijacking, what would be your response, "what are you nuts"? n estimated 2.5 million Americans have bipolar disorder. The actual number may be two to three times higher because as many as 80 percent of people with this illness go undiagnosed or misdiagnosed. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

well, believe it or not, profiling has been around for some time now, the FBI does it all the time, I'm not saying I'm qualified but simply stated my opinion I think Meyer did the same, if it was that easy, none of us would be here because Cooper would be found! sorry about the eyes, I jumped off the KC wagon a while ago...... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

but you seem to think a short balled blue eyed guy was Cooper? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I'm going by what I see, why would one inch bother you so much? to high to be Cooper? you have differences in height excluding age 16 because he is still growing we have no idea if he was bare footed on other measures? so unless there is a medical form showing different, I can still go by what I see. plus it seems now you are stating Duane was sick in the 60's didn't you argue several times with Georger he was not sick? I can't find any medical evidence backing this statement of "shrinking" with Kidney disease, 71 he shrunk to what 5-10 5-11 ?? doesn't make sense Jo I am simply showing my findings just as you do....... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

can one really exclude the term social path? can one exclude Cooper's survival? can anything be excluded in the Cooper case? can one learn the personality by a single crime? Antisocial Personality Disorder is also known as psychopathy or sociopathy. Individuals with this disorder have little regard for the feeling and welfare of others. As a clinical diagnosis it is usually limited to those over age 18. It can be diagnosed in younger people if the they commit isolated antisocial acts and do not show signs of another mental disorder. Antisocial Personality Disorder is chronic, beginning in adolescence and continuing throughout adulthood. There are ten general symptoms: not learning from experience no sense of responsibility inability to form meaningful relationships inability to control impulses lack of moral sense chronically antisocial behavior no change in behavior after punishment emotional immaturity lack of guilt self-centeredness People with this disorder may exhibit criminal behavior. They may not work. If they do work, they are frequently absent or may quit suddenly. They do not consider other people's wishes, welfare or rights. They can be manipulative and may lie to gain personal pleasure or profit. They may default on loans, fail to provide child support, or fail to care for their dependents adequately. High risk sexual behavior and substance abuse are common. Impulsiveness, failure to plan ahead, aggressiveness, irritability, irresponsibility, and a reckless disregard for their own safety and the safety of others are traits of the antisocial personality. Socioeconomic status, gender, and genetic factors play a role. Males are more likely to be antisocial than females. Those from lower socioeconomic groups are more susceptible. A family history of the disorder puts one at higher risk. There are many theories about the cause of Antisocial Personality Disorder including experiencing neglectful parenting as a child, low levels of certain neurotransmitters in the brain, and belief that antisocial behavior is justified because of difficult circumstances. Psychotherapy, group therapy, and family therapy are common treatments. The effects of medical treatment are inconclusive. Unfortunately, most people with Antisocial Personality Disorder reject treatment. Therefore, recovery rates are low. Yes, I believe he could fit the criteria.......... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

you skipped the part about him being dead you skipped Mr Motto. "Mac gave me two pictures of himself before he died" Caretaker Al 07-15-2006, 08:05 AM "undercover agent on loan from the Pentagon who became an identity when Nicholas O'Hara faked a shotgun death of McCoy." Aug 2, 2012, 4:08 AM "Mac is still alive and can supply factual information" Feb 4, 2011, 3:15 AM you skipped your meds too! Caretaker Al died yesterday, please show some respect and stop posting....... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

well that sounds like I'm probably correct about the Canon photo, typically you have a one inch shoe heel Duane was pretty young in the Navy pic from what I recall, puts him over the Cooper limit but within the guidelines. DL can be anything close, they never check, they just ask how tall are you. he was young during his service years, still growing. I was looking at the pic today and that is when the lines caught my eye, seemed he was over the 6 foot mark. so to best sum it up Duane was 6-1 to 6-2 "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI