mrshutter45

caretaker and Motto are both on there, I know it was Knoss, end of story, I just think you look to hard into things rather than sitting back and thinking How long did you believe Knoss, took me reading about half way into his first post I ever read. It's a lot harder for you which I understand,but, just like the height thingy you want to say Duane shrunk? you have battled with Georger when he has claimed Duane was sick back then and you said he wasn't,the odds of a shrinking 40 year old are slim. you need to separate yourself from Duane when questioning his actions, I know it's hard not to be protective or believe anything someone tells you. I just believe myself there is explanations more than you tend to believe about Duane, these years you have now should be the best you have had instead of chasing all of this, I realize this was placed upon you but, how much life have you missed out on? regardless of what you think of me, I still like ya Jo. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

well the catcher guy spelled Marshal as Marshall, I have only seen one person spell it that way, I simply said Jo's thread because it surrounds you and was made for you, so naturally one would call it yours yes Mr motto is at the end of the thread........ Cartaker is no doubt Knoss, the thread just ends, no monitor speaking about anything relating to closure....no biggie, Knoss is Knoss....a fraud. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

just simply stating Jo, it is my opinion of looking at a blurred photo and tried to put some justification into it, that is why I said I am calling it that way because of the blur I can't be 100% sure. but if the lines are correct, he is over 6 feet, I would love to see the document....... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

no matter how good or smart you think you are, the longer you try to run your story, the more trouble you will run into trying to remember it! "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

This should put the final nail in your pathetic Coffin! in the last year you claim to know and speak to McCoy, however on Jo's thread 6 years ago you sign in as DBcoopercather and talk to yourself in another name we all know as Caretaker Al, DBcoopercatcher spells Marshal as Marshall, gee who does that on here, oh yea, Bob Knoss, back to McCoy, you then state this "Mac gave me two pictures of himself before he died and authorized their use for specific purposes" so know The FBI killed him in 1974, you claim he died while talking on a thread in 2006 and yet 2011/12 rolls around and you are still talking to him Not that it hasn't been......but the gig is up truth seeker Caretaker Al......R.I.P. 12/26/2012 "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

you got nothing on me Bob.......enough said! just another proof less fool! you forgot the childish "bite me" and the end!! "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"YOU WOULD MAKE A TERRIBLE INVESTIGATOR. A good investigator would see the connection of the dots and try to see if they meant anything. " "Good Job Mr Shutter and I really appreciate the help" Everyone is entitled to opinions Jo, I could say that we must be out of good investigators since in the last 17 years nobody has been able to connect the dots except you! with that out of the way, I have noticed the picture you keep posting of Duane being released from prison, you can't read the place card with his physical features and noticed you were kind enough to fill them in for us. Height 6 Weight 190 Complexion - Medium Ruddy Eyes Brown Date 5-3-62 CSP 32755 it appears to me if the 6 foot you are claiming is Duane's height then the line just below Duane's head must be the 6 foot mark, Duane must be 6-2 or around that no? LE always puts 6-0, 6-1 etc, almost like you left this part out, if you followed the description on the place card you can see it also has two digits (6-?) but it's blurred..... if you notice there is also lines in between the 6 inch marks (faded) which appear to be 2 inch increments making it possible Duane is 6-2? since I can't read it, that's how I am calling it DB Cooper 5-10 to 6-0 "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

you are killing your lead Jo, if Ed is one of the Anglins, this puts the rest of your theories out the window, we know the Anglins were not involved with anything dealing with planes! so which is it? Ed a pilot, mechanic, jumper, Insurance salesman?? or is he John Anglin, if so then he is not the above, correct? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"leads one to believe" Yes Jo what do you think that implies? just the same as I do believe John Anglin might be Ed Hurand? 95 to 99% sure is what I read? 2006 I am also trying to find a pilot or jumper by the name of Ed Hurand (not sure of the spelling, but sounds like). He had blue eyes and would have been born approx. from 1929 to 1934. From something in his conversation I got the impression he was a pilot. 2009 Keep digging - there is a mechanic by the name Ed Hurand - find him and whe find Duane 2011 Ed is the one who worked for American Income out of Waco, TX and the company would NOT give me any information about his siting the privacy law. Yet, Ed had to be deceased by now as he was diabetic in 1981 or 1982 - the last time I saw him at a meeting in Atlanta, GA. That is when I took the picture of him 2012 I do believe John Anglin might be Ed Hurand or atleast a relative. again no offense Jo, you are all over the board again with claims. Pilot, jumper, mechanic, escapee, or relative? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"The clothes and shoes he is being released in are Shabby to say the least, but his overall appearance leads one to believe that he had some kind of forestry training while serving in midst of that huge forest" "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I disagree with your statement Robert, cases have been won where the perp has invaded the home and broken a limb and sued and won! cops down here tell me if someone breaks into your home and you shoot them, make sure you put a knife beside them! rest assure anyone comes near my home..(inside).I'll put a hole in them and ask questions later, screw you and the law, my home is my domain...period! you want to lock me up for it...so be it! 377 says: "Not exactly... They only know that the registered owner has a criminal record. Someone else may be driving. " tell that to the Judge when I get a traffic ticket via camera stop light! in Florida they only take your tag from the rear, they "threaten you with a $150 fine, but if you take it to court it doubles if you lose? but they seem to not care who is driving! "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Deadly force is a grey area, but in certain states you can blow away a carjacker from my understanding.....Texas is one http://www.texasgunlaws.org/chap9.htm http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?app_mode=display_statute&url=0700-0799/0776/0776.html http://www.gunlawsbystate.com/category/deadly-force/ http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String&URL=0700-0799/0776/Sections/0776.013.html need anymore, let me know? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

it's Chrsitmas Eve! Fine sorry. but you have to link him to November 24, 1971 period! not in the other 49 states you places Duane in, show physical evidence of your claims, I don't care if he was a jumper, put him in Portland or Seattle or your just barking! you make outlandish claims Jo, I found a website you had years back claiming after Duane's release "believe that he had some kind of forestry training" ......from prison photo? by the way, you said this " I do believe John Anglin might be Ed Hurand" that's admission Jo! I still like ya Jo....Merry Christmas.... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Nice Jo, link him to November 24, 1971, not 1943, 1944, 1960 etc etc... oops. I forgot the ace....... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

well, there really seems to be no end to the DZ block busting case breaking website so many bright individuals (me excluded) bashing heads back and forth testing IQ's hard to stay on track to the real issue of "Who Is DB Cooper" perhaps one day we can find the answer , I don't know. it's repetitive on everyone's view? where does it end? Jo has been dismissed, KC has been pretty much dismissed? where does it really end? we test each others abilities and come to what conclusion? I ask a simple question? where the hell is DB Cooper! answer...not here as far as I can see.... Once again....Merry Christmas to all! "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

give me a break Robert! you have been going on and on with G for months and months, although I agree with the cease fire, it will never really end on this thread! Merry Christmas to all...................... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I'm a little busy right now but rest assure I will find the post where you said you believe he is Anglin! I'm sure you are also busy with the law suit and all you made several statements about the Anglins from it being him to maybe a relative! what about the military record? John's middle name start with a C or not? try backing your own information up so more mistakes don't happen!!! as for holding all the ace's??? all I see are Jokers!!! "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Jo, this is public information, Duane 's brother was 13 years older right? Duane was born 1924 correct, subtract 13 years and you have 1911 correct. I didn't find any death records matching John to 2004, only 2001 in Lake Worth. Florida out of respect I left the last four numbers out, but could of easily put them on here, it's public information Jo. let me know when the law suit will begin. I will take 10 minutes out of my day to prepare! So I guess Ed Hurand could sue you as well since you are claiming he is one of the Anglins, correct? why all of the threats Jo? Badgering? sounds like Knoss again, we are tired of you putting up the same thing over and over Jo. I would like to get to the bottom of this because your claims are growing faster with every post Jo! if you do not wish any replies to a open form, may I suggest you open your own thread that you can control! or possibly your own website where nobody can respond! I'm sorry but you sound like Knoss everytime I ask for something to be backed up. I asked for the envelope so the postmark could be seen, you claim the FBI took it, ok post his discharge or the letter itself? as I stated in my last post it only seems fair since you have been making these claims for years Jo. Duane in a nutshell, he was in prison half of his life and the other half was full of excitement he was around smoke jumpers, he was involved in CW training, he was involve with MLK, he was involved in balloon bombs, he was friends of the Anglin's who escaped from Alcatraz, he was a airplane mechanic, he worked for the CIA, for kicks he decided to jump out of the back of a 727 on November 24, 1971, I know you want to tell your story jo, but, personally I would like you to show us your story? you demand people read the thread, well I have and you have been told since the mid 2000's that you are repeating your story over and over don't you think you might be just a little one sided on this Jo? I can see the FBI made mistakes Jo, but this hardly calls for a cover up, what purpose would this serve in doing this? Sluggo summed it up way back in 2008( see pic) In my opinion you are blurred in your vision by not listening to anything anyone says unless the name is Jo, I'm not trying to be mean Jo like you have been to anyone who challenges you on anything, you get all bent out of shape Jo, you do a lot of name calling and you don't even see that! what could the FBI do to you after reading about the claims of a Government cover up, not mistakes made by them? casting stones are tough Jo! "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Jo, the military is not going to allow Duane any access to anything after being duped twice by him! you were so dead set that the FBI covered up his military record that your research crew didn't notice the one number off', but FBI made the same mistake. Duane 35608905 Wavie 35698905 I also found John C Weber's military records 39271953 born 1911 died 01/31/2001 Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA enlisted 12/20/1943 SS 167-14**** civilian occupation Managers and officials, n.e.c. you feel so strong about all of this but fail to prove anything Jo. put the letter up so we can see, if I'm not mistaken you said the FBI returned everything? how about Duane's discharge? I think it's time that you stop freaking out on us and show proof. how many years have you been going on about Wavie? how many years have you stated John was doing what in the military? come on jo, just put something online other than the 6 or 8 pics of Duane you show over and over. anything new with the Cooper case, you fire off asking who, where show me proof, well, it's your turn. I think I am being very fair about this. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I'm hoping to shed some light in order for her to understand this is not a cover up finding Wavie being one number off is good evidence plus might help the 3/4 page reports Jo makes that everyone confronts her about. system control mode "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

what did John do in the Army Jo? did you read the Wavie Green conclusion? Duane was out of the service before the balloon bombs: Between November 1944 and April 1945, Japan launched over 9,300 fire balloons. About 300 balloon bombs were found or observed in North America, killing six people and causing a small amount of damage "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

well, once again we can't prove anything about Cooper by the bomb, we don't know if it was real or not, so how would one learn anything from this? if in fact he built a real bomb, wouldn't the odds be for him knowing if transmissions would detonate it? I'm going to look into this further, but still believe some sort of transmission device would have had to be on the bomb (remote control) to interfere with transmissions. the device if real had the circuit broken by the two wires, so how could it detonate unless he completed the circuit by crossing the wires. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Nitroglycerin is in a solid form making Dynamite, I sill believe if the bomb was only having a ignition source via battery, radio signals would have no affect, signals only affect transmissions, radio, television etc. cell phones and computers are transceivers and this is why airlines will ask you to shut them off. possible microwave signal from them? I don't see how a small circuit board and a battery could be disrupted by radio signals? If this was brought up by Cooper, I believe this would be part two of his bluff, it would send more panic into play. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I haven't read Skyjack, is this were the information of Cooper's concern for the bomb is? I have never heard this before? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

well, I'm no bomb expert by any means,but, since the device didn't have a transmitting device (remote control) and he was threatening the explosion by connecting two wires, one would have to believe only a circuit board was used along with the battery to detonate and would not be interfered by radio signals IMO. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI