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This is the video of the chute find, if the coords are indeed correct they are well within the Flight Path perimeters? I am aware of many people claiming it was a cargo chute, so here it is. this is not entirely to scale due to the time frame I was in, but gives the idea of the location. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U99c_9A98c right about where the red dot is on the 2010 writing on the map (see photo) "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

yes that is one of them. check your mail - I sent a PM........ "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Georger, is the the site you are looking for? I bookmarked it a long time ago? http://www.wheredidithappen.com/current_events.php?pageNum_get_currentevent=3 "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

BK says: I did not get everything, like how he got his boots aboard, Shutter says: Bob's "super memory" seems to be failing him, Bob claimed many times that the boots were in the dummy chute. I'm sorry Meyer, but BK has nothing positive to put on this thread. I believe everyone has a right to bring evidence forward, but this is beyond reality. the famous notes have been mentioned again that he fails to produce for evidence. all hogwash....... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

2006 Bob is hiding under the name Caretaker Al. BK says this under another name: No, the reference to the U.S. Marshall was that Duane was released in the custody of a Marshall when he left Missouri. The Marshall had to sign for him. Shutter says: I seen Weber's release papers, absolutely no reason to have a Marshal (one L) sign him out. BK/Caretaker Al says" Mac gave me two pictures of himself before he died and authorized their use for specific purposes. Shutter says: several months back he was telling us he talks to McCoy all the time. guy has 9 lives..... BK/Caretaker Al says: I have two pictures of Mac that he gave me to use for a special purpose if necessary. Shutter says: Bob tried passing off a picture of a Hollywood Producer until he was caught, then quickly changed it to a look alike. BK/Caretaker Al: Duane was told to clear all of the passengers and the stews before presenting the note. The fact that he did not do it correctly changed the charges to a life term offense, for kidnapping. Shutter says: wouldn't have changed a thing, doesn't matter if just the pilot was the only one held against his will, charges would remain the same! Bob goes on and on with endless rants on what he calls the truth, once again we have zero evidence of anything other that what Bob claims.....which is zip.... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I do understand what you are saying about this , but, BK is not giving a theory, he swears up and down this is all true. without any evidence to support it. keep in mind Bk is claiming the President Of The United States, the Pentagon, and the pilots union all had a hand in this? Bob also claims McCoy was in one of the chase helicopters, claims he got Weber out of prison. it goes on and on growing bigger as time passed. how in Gods green earth would a Government mission this large end up with so many loose ends? the Government may not run the Country very well, but, rest assure that they are pretty dam good at military operations! he puts words into public figures such as O'Hara by claiming he didn't kill McCoy after the prison break. also claims Rataczak was part of this? when you ask him how he knows this, he responds by going off the subject then returns with an answer of "I was there so bite me" ? this again is only a small part of the BK "theory" "By the way, if the money was already in a moneybag" the last known evidence has it in the bag, nothing supporting what happened after he jumped. did the bag get loose on the way down, is it still attached to Cooper out there with a no pull? all we have is 3 bundles that some how got out of the bag that was last seen together on the plane.... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

'By the way, if the money was already in a moneybag, it seems to me the bills would have survived just fine in a milk can, submerged under water, for an extended period of time." I not sure I would buy into this either, this condition would put sediments into the can after a couple years the can would be dry and wet off and on turning the contents to a mess. the can would have been filled with sediments and along with the money it's extremely unlikely the can would pop up like a cork as BK claims. the top of a milk cans is not water proof. 8+ years is a long time for money to survive under these conditions. the can just wouldn't have any Buoyancy to it IMO.... If the bag was with the money, how did 3 bundles get out if the bag and the can before it sank, again? should have already been full of water as the river started to rise? way before it had a chance to pop up? Personal ? nope, I started questioning him a year ago and half way through all he would do is divert and resort to name calling, so I started looking deeper into his story finding problem after problem. the battle continued for some time. I simply remind him of this when ever he comments. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

The song at the start of the video is cool...and so is the part where you rip it off dragging the needle.

I should be back in the air in about 2 weeks. I bought a new computer replacing my old new computer. HP/Compaq 500 Gig Hard Drive 3.0 dual core processor 4 Gigs of memory Nvidia 9800 GTX video card. If this doesn't work, I'm opening a computer store

"About 24 minutes out, 28 miles north of Portland, the second officer’s annunciator panel indicated that the rear stairs had been lowered." radio transcripts state 7:43 the stairs were lowered, wonder who wrote this? 24 minutes out, 28 miles north of Portland don't jive... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

This is a newsletter about the event (Coverage of event begins about page 8.) http://www.nwahistory.org/newsletter/12_fall_newsletter_web.pdf Thanks for posting this smokin....... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"Whose to say the government wasn't desperate enough to go Special Ops on this?' In my opinion if this was indeed a Government cover up wouldn't you think they would have tied up all the loose ends? A Government project would have been done entirely different than history shows. they would have easily placed a body in clear view to be found or would have been "caught" shortly after the crime. why leave this many open ends after the crime. the problem I see is the fact of a pretty simple crime has snowballed into a giant cluster F#$k. where would we be if the other "copycat" jumpers also got away. would they all be tied to a Government cover up simply because they are unsolved? Unsolved mysteries seem to be an open invitation to 'cover ups' and Conspiracies..... was the Alcatraz escape done in order to close the prison down due to treatment of the prisoner's? where does it end??? for the record, Alcatraz was falling apart mainly due to the fact of using salt water to flush the toilets which caused severe damage to the concrete structure. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

" but who's to say BK's theory is any more untenable than anybody else's theory around here? " BK's "story" sounds good on the outside until you dig into it, then it just falls apart. Bob claims a lot of things, said he was a College drop out, false. Bob claims he was drafted, but didn't know the process. (explained it backwards) Bob claims McCoy is still alive, but, in 2006 said McCoy gave him a photo before he died? Bob made many claims about Dave Haapala which also turned out to be false. Bob claims Cooper walked 15-20 miles that evening? this makes no sense if you knew the square mileage of the alleged jump area. Bob claims a can, then a milk can was buried close to the river with the money in it. milk cans are not water tight and would have destroyed the money in a short period of time that close to the river. Bob claims that Janet lived in Portland and not Vancouver? Bob claims a oil pipeline ran along the Columbia. false again Bob uses pictures not even from this Country about a "pump Station" along the Columbia. Bob's claims are obviously taken from Jo Weber's story with his own twist on it. Bob claims he was the "Record Keeper" but can't place anything correctly on his map. Bob really got nailed by the screen shot given by Matt showing obvious deception to it's max! This is only a small part of BK's "Story" you are correct by saying everyone has a right to tell there story, but, if you are really trying to prove something you must have proof of these actions. Bob Knoss has zero evidence and disappears or responds with childish behavior when confronted with any part of his story. Blevins is correct about BK being kicked off of many other sites. I think Bob has been doing this for his amusement, or he has a hidden problem with truth & reality "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

here is something interesting I found on Ebay.... http://www.ebay.com/itm/NORTHWEST-AIRLINES-D-B-COOPER-HIJACKING-NWA-HISTORY-CENTRE-DVD-TOLD-BY-COPILOT-/300875978658?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item460d9b17a2 "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

anytime you are ready to tell the truth let us know....got a nice States Attorney who would love to hear the truth????? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Sailshaw, I found a 1960's photo of Portland at night. since my computer is down, I am using someone elses picture showing the lights of Portland on the simulator. he has the same software. here is the link to the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ5izMBoJEA "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Robert, why are you here if everything above is true? double standard.... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Robert, once again you fail to remember that this is Hollywood. these scenes were taken at different times, they very well could have done a low altitude jump for the landing. just because he jumped from a 727 doesn't mean the landing is one in the same! how many times have you watched a movie with two people talking and one has a glass of beer let's say. when they show the first part you see a full glass of beer, then the camera shifts to the other guy and then back on him and the glass is empty? this is because they mixed two different takes. the first couple seconds of the plane do look staged, but that's about it. there was probably several different shoots, some only filming him after he jumped and probably several of the actual jump. they can't have one take with the cameraman following him as he goes down so this was done in different take/shoots/scenes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r71ryANleZ0 "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Nice photos. Can we assume the stairs are locked down in your photo? The stairs were not locked down in the test (photos). I can't be 100% sure, the picture seems to be from the movie. note the color of clothing "brown" and the way he is jumping out? the picture was taken off of Dropzone, Greg Gasson gave me the link. a better quality of the film is found here, the first 5 minutes are the only parts to watch, or up to the bomb scene. http://www.hulu.com/watch/208410 Except for the close ups of Treat Williams, the opening scenes were shot in the air. Real airplane, real jump, real landing in the trees, etc.. Robert99 Thanks Robert99, take a look at these two photo's, it appears the stairs are not locked in photo #2 "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Nice photos. Can we assume the stairs are locked down in your photo? The stairs were not locked down in the test (photos). I can't be 100% sure, the picture seems to be from the movie. note the color of clothing "brown" and the way he is jumping out? the picture was taken off of Dropzone, Greg Gasson gave me the link. a better quality of the film is found here, the first 5 minutes are the only parts to watch, or up to the bomb scene. http://www.hulu.com/watch/208410 "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"I haven't seen Pursuit all the way through" you are missing absolutely nothing, the truth stops right after the opening credits. kind of funny, but I'll never watch it again... ". If they actually jumped from a jet as part of the film, I have to give it to them for guts. " that's exactly what stuntmen get paid for....guts! Dar Robinson was one of the best IMO. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Some more trivia about the set /location...scroll down to right below Robert Duval.

" but not part of the filming." have you ever heard of practice runs during stunts? based on what I have found it appears the picture could have been from routine practice run. it's rather normal for someone from the crew taking pictures. movie producer's will find a spot very similar in order to save money moving the entire set to the real location. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LWZj7ZopsA "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Robert, the only one disagreeing is you..... where did I put words into your mouth? I have had a expert opinion about the opening scene. he said this was not animated! I can't take your word over someone with these qualifications. Greg Gasson - Aerial DP / Coordinator / Stuntman / World Champion Camera-flyer Greg Gasson Affiliations Abilities Education SAG Skydiving Bachelor of Science Aerial Stunt Service Snowboarding Computational Mathematics imdb.com Rock Climbing Arizona State University Scuba diving Ratings Waterskiing FAA Master Rigger Shooting USPA PRO Rating Wire Work Scuba Certified PADI Stats: 7000+ skydives 100+ BASE jumps 28 years experience Films Commercials Television Tandem (2012) GM - Chevy Sonic Top Gear Korea The Law of Attraction (2011) Viasat Dual Survival - Split Up Episode 1.7 (2010) Viento en contra (2011) Cheez It Time Warp - Blades and Volts Episode 2.1 (2009) Management (2008) GM - Opel Zafira Epic Conditions - Warren Miller Films (2007) Final Approach (2007) Samsung Stunt Junkies - Plane to Plane Episode Don (2006) Miller Lite Ripley's "Believe it or not" Green Light (2005) Converse Dateline - Picture of the Week Nescafe Extreme Machine - Discovery Wings Special Projects Durban Muscle Ranking - Tokyo Broadcasting ARRI - Skydiving Showreel for NAB 2007 Intel How 'bout that? ARRI - 8R Showreel for NAB 2007 AXN TV ARRI - 235 Adventures Showreel for IBC 2007 Skydiving Documentaries Eurosport ARRI - 416 Showreel for IBC 2008 Good Stuff - "Chuteless" Jump Real TV Kid Savant - "4 Years" - music video More Stuff - Plane to Plane Hard Copy More Stuff - Plane to Plane X 3 That's Incredible Photo Shoot Skydive USA II How'd They Do That? - TLC Camel Active - 2004 Clothing Catalog On the Fun Side Ordinary / Extraordinary - LMNO TV Good Stuff - Cars FOX After Breakfast - live freefall broadcast Competitive Experience 2010 Skydive Arizona Freefly Money Meet Best Cameraflyer Award 2006 Skydive Arizona Freefly Money Meet Best Cameraflyer Award 2005 Skydive Arizona Freefly Money Meet Best Cameraflyer Award 2004 Skydive Arizona Freefly Money Meet Best Cameraflyer Award 2003 Skydive Arizona Freefly Money Meet Best Cameraflyer Award 2003 Lake Wales, Florida US National Skysurfing Championships 1st Place 2003 Lake Wales, Florida US National Freestyle Championships 3rd Place 2001 Akita, Japan World Games Freestyle Championships 3rd Place 1998 Elsinore, Califonia US National Freestyle Championships 1st Place 1998 Evora, Portugal World Cup Freestyle Championships 2nd Place 1997 Lahti, Finland World Games Freestyle Championships 1st Place 1996 Skydive Arizona US National Freestyle Championships 1st Place 1996 Efes, Turkey World Cup Freestyle Championships 1st Place 1995 Ampfing, Germany World Freestyle Championships 2nd Place your other problem is thinking of today's technology, and not the 70's or 80's..... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"I'm not aware of any sources giving the exact airspeed in the FBI tests when the jumper walked down to the bottom step. He walked back up the stairs and didn't jump. " I think you are talking about this man? http://www.thepilot.com/news/2011/sep/07/local-man-tried-to-help-solve-famous-skyjacking/ "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI