jaybird18c

I disagree with this kid and the whole situation but this is exactly why all three of my children are in private Christian school. The state government and the ACLU can both shove it!

Do you think this is anything new? Do you think the two supposedly differing accounts surprised the early Church Fathers or do you think it made perfect sense to them as it was written? These are very very tired old arguments against the validity of Scripture. Nothing new that hasn't been handled over and over a very long time ago.

Contradictions: Two Creation Accounts?

Who cares?

Really Kallend? That's your point? Of course none of those things are specifically addressed in the Bible. Countless other yhings aren't specifically mentioned by name. That's not how it works. Principals are derived from Scripture which can then be applied to everyday situations (depending on the context).

Too late. Jaybird already sent Anne Frank to hell. I really wish you wouldn't misrepresent what I say.

With regard to the Creeds, an argument from exclusion isn't a good one. The question isn't what the Creeds say or do not say with regard to hell. The question is what do the Scriptures say about a particular subject. The Creeds are only beneficial in as far as they line up with and help the Christian understand Scripture. I say the Creeds you mentioned most certainly do for what they describe. Is the doctrine of reprobation an essential belief concerning salvation? You could argue that it is not, however, it certainly informs you what you were saved from. Wouldn't make much sense without it.

no it didn't. And that is your religion.

Fixed it for you... I don't require your help Steve.

Your day will come.

Well...at least I think I'm "Smarter than a 5th Grader."

You 'assume' design, and therefore assume a designer. The is no evidence of either. And you assume no designer despite the design. No. Again, you're assuming the design. True...but it seems reasonable. If I were walking down the street and I came upon a grouping of rocks on the sidewalk that formed words which read Jay Phillips, who lives at 405 Willowbrook Terrace, Dothan, AL 36301, brown/hazel eyes, brown hair, 5' 10" tall, I wouldn't assume that those rocks formed themselves in such a manner by chance no matter how many millions of years you waited. Yes, it is an assumption but our DNA is billions of times more complex and specific than what I just described. You may assume that it can all happen by chance but that also...is an assumtion. Here is an interesting article about the Bacterial Flagellum. Much more complex than meets the eye. Irreducibly complex functionality. Could that have happened by chance? I don't think so...but you're free to your opinion. I just wish we'd all admit that we start from an assumption. It's the intellectually honest thing to do. We all have a starting point which we cannot entirely prove scientifically.

Yes I have...good example...and the molecular structure for those consists of information which had to originate from somewhere. Snowflakes

Well, I would start with the existence of the truck indicates a truck maker/designer. Again...an assumtion (the part concerning their motives). I understand your perspective but it is in fact, an assumption. I respect your opinion.

You 'assume' design, and therefore assume a designer. The is no evidence of either. And you assume no designer despite the design. But we both begin with an assumption, correct? I admit mine. Do you admit yours?

We just disagree with the source. I say design implies a designer. You say matter & energy can come from nothing on it's own and organize itself blindly through random chance. Neither of which can be proved scientifically.

Jump out of an airplane without a parachute. As longn as you don't believe in gravity, you'll be alright. Right? Stand out in the middle of a busy street as long as you don't believe in big trucks. You'll be alright. Right? The light in the tunnel is either going to be the light at the end or an oncoming train. It will either "free your mind" and lead you to the truth....or squash you like a bug. One way or the other, however, you will meet the train. Your conscience informs you of this. You won't admit it but you know (because the rest of us all do) that lying is wrong. Have you lied? "All liars will have their part in the lake of fire." What you're doing now is dancing around inside of the plane with the music blaring, having a great time, about to jump out without your parachute on. You have no idea when that "green light" is going to come on.

Fear Fear isn't a bad thing...it can save your life. "Fear causes hesitation and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true." - Bodhi

not all at - we have better things to do with our time that is all. Till you run out of time, that is.

That makes absolutely no sense.

Weak? That's funny coming from someone who believes in invisible friends despite a total and complete lack of any objective evidence for their existence. And, given the obvious design/completely of the universe, you believe that everything came from nothing, blew up, and became, by some blind force of nature, an organized everything. Don't get me wrong, I greatly admire your faith.

You're game is weak shown by your resorting to profanity and personal attacks.

Dude... Well put.

Doesn't matter. I'm not called to convert anyone but to present the gospel message in the Biblical manner. Only God can change the heart. It doesn't matter if I ever see a conversion. The Bible also describes limits to evangelist efforts stating "not to cast pearls (speaking of the gospel) before swine (arrogant and proud rebels hostile to God's grace.) But to dust your feet off as you head to the next town. The command to repent and believe the gospel is not a request. You will be held resposible for everything you have done, thought, or said one day.