BobKnoss

Bleep, or Whomever: I was given to understand by someone, I remember naught, that the area around Tena Bar was flooded several times. Larry Carr explains the time frame for the movement of the money, in his opinion, from the East. However, it is reportedly possible that currents were reversed for a brief period which by a wild chance, might throw a curve to the fact pile. The money was covered and protected for seven to nine years and was only exposed for the last few. The majority of the money was found buried under three feet of dredging fill, suggesting a wash-up on the shore before being covered by the dredging. McCoy reported that Weber buried all but two pockets full of bills in a milk can under a tree by the river, before a flood. Carr's information isolates the time frame of the flood, assuming the flood to have caused the release of the bills from their hiding place. In that scenerio, watershed and water flow might even couple with tidal flow for unusual results. I have never studied it myself, just taking notes from smart speculators. This puts a causative flood as a possible release date about 1978-80. Larry Carr makes sense and is consistent with Weber and McCoy.

It must be nice to have another wacko to go after - since your own thingy failed. Keeps you in the media with something to say/type. GOT ANYTHING NEW - ! ? NEW BLAME ! PLAY IT AGAIN - SAM. 11) You have a history. It's known you've gone onto several forums and articles on Cooper and driven those forums and articles into trash. The interactive page at Facebook on Cooper was closed because of you. I used to have an old recording machine but I can't find it in all the boxes of junk piled to the ceiling in every room in the house. All my washing machine parts and clocks, etc. Maybe you could find one. One of those old Polaroid cameras too. If we sent those items to this failed book guy, maybe he would be like the monkeys in the monkey cage over at the zoo. HE could take pictures of himself and tape them to all his walls, and record loops of himself shouting Hitler jibberish on the recorder. If we included color crayons, he could draw cartoons in the bathroom. The guy REALLY needs an outlet other than here. This is not a private diary where every day he can record his daily chores, sell his rotting book, and cry about Gayla. Attention difficiency anemia. Take two aspirin. Place head in vise and tighten until pain is alleviated. Or, you could just open the closet door and join us in the real world. No flashing lights, no loud recordings, no washboarding or dripping water, no more porno emails from DZ, no fantasy conversations between non-existent posters on some space ship site. Naw, never happen. There was a zoo keeper that was hired at our zoo to care for the monkey cage. He taught the monkeys to masturbate and throw it at the visitors through the bars. Obviously, he is not there anymore. The monkeys still do it, and the keeper ....is he trying to write books? Similar mentality me thinks.

We have something in common, I see. The main problems in your standalone story regarding the hijacking are these: 1) You are virtually the only person on the planet who claims that Richard Floyd McCoy is still alive, when the evidence is overwhelming that he is dead. That means he did a really good job of begging people to be quiet. 2) The DB Cooper case has been exhaustively examined by both professionals and amateur investigators for forty years - and not one of them has ever verified ANY of the claims you make on how the crime went down. It was done by professionals with Government secrecy. Works. 3) In order to forward your story, you have involved people still living where the overwhelming body of evidence shows they were NOT involved. This includes former FBI agents, one or more of the crew from the hijacked flight, and a respected film director from Disney/Pixar pictures. Sometimes the truth is stranger than your fiction. 4) You blast anybody else's evidence in the case as 'lies', even though you provide no hard evidence of your own to back your claims. Sometimes the truth is stranger than your fiction. 5) You continue to hold to certain claims, even in the face of strong evidence to the contrary. Janet is a good example. The weather above Portland at the time of the hijacking was dark, raining, with heavy overcast at 5,000 feet. The jet was flying at 9,600 feet. You jumped on that story and added it to your little fable, AFTER Galen Cook first announced it in the Utah Standard Examiner. Before that time, you never mentioned her or tried to use McCoy as the Janet Messenger Boy who allegedly showed up at her door. Yet later, you claimed to know all about it, and said McCoy was the messenger. In the Galen Cook article, Cook said he thought it was an FBI agent, although that is extremely doubtful as well. Can't argue about facts. Look them up. 6) Not ONE of the people involved in your story have come forward other than you, and not one of them has independently verified even ONE point in your story. Basically, it all comes from you with absolutely no confirmation. Newspaper editors would throw you out of their office if you came to them with that. Tell that to Bob Woodward. 7) If indeed the hijacking was one big conspiracy to improve airline safety, involving FBI agents, crew, famous people, a dead hijacker, and others...YOU would not be the first to suddenly figure it out. Chances are it would have come out within months of the Cooper hijacking. Need to know limited fact exposure, total story not available to all. 8) You've been caught in outright lies. One example is when you tried to involve Henry Selick from Pixar Pictures. You said he was a stand-in for Richard McCoy at the McCoy trial, and that he was later 'paid off' with plastic surgery. In reality, Selick was only 19 years old when the McCoy trial began in Utah, and studying science at Rutgers University in his home state of New Jersey. You are too lazy or blind to look at the Henry pictures and identify them as the same man? Any fool can do that. Consult an expert. You apparently don't understand the word "lie". Try "boldfaced truth right in front of your face"! 9) Your claim of being a draft-dodger during the Vietnam War, and then subsequently being 'recruited' by certain government elements as a result of that action, has not been proven. Not my job. I'm not trying a case, but I submitted forms to satisfy our badgering. Grab you shorts and cross your legs. Hang on. 10) Standing back and looking at the whole forest of the Knoss Story, you see this: Your central claim is that the Cooper hijacking was planned and implemented with the goal of somehow improving airline safety. The idea that anyone in the government would actually put people's lives at risk in the air to do this is beyond belief. Yet, it lies at the core of your story, and you base much upon it. There is also the fact that the FBI spent millions of dollars and many years investigating the hijacking, which goes against your theory. In reality, they would have put a convenient end to the whole thing rather quickly, if your story were true...NOT continue to keep it in the public eye and risk discovery. Your story just doesn't meet the truth test here. My pain in the ass, too. Look at all the films made of every single case that McCoy was involved in. FBI training films. One after another. Hoover did not like showy exposure. Mac was Pentagon furniture on loan. Larry Carr or Ralph can explain the answer to this question better than I. They have it memorized. They get 2000 calls a year from witnesses. New agents are not informed of the truth, so they tried to funnel everything through the retired agents in charge. Big mistake. It just ballooned. Then you get in the act with your hoop-harrah fiction and try to stir up misdirection when things get hot with my exposure. It is all very obvious to me and soon it will become very obvious to everyone. I'll just keep plugging away. Converts are accumulating. Pasternak, Hume, pretty soon, Bruce. (Play theme to Lone Ranger) 11) You have a history. It's known you've gone onto several forums and articles on Cooper and driven those forums and articles into trash. The interactive page at Facebook on Cooper was closed because of you. I VERY MUCH DOUBT THAT, since I was off for more than a year before it was closed. You read too much Jo Weber ranting. 12) Unless you can provide at least a couple of pieces of evidence besides 'cause I say so.' then your story on the Cooper hijacking must be relegated to fantasy. On the authority of Cooper Crew Kangaroo Court? I think not. You have one little voice with no credibility at all. And THAT is being NICE. Bite me.

Why are you so sarcastic and hostile to me? I asked the only question I knew to ask, since you seemed to be enjoying the banter here and delight in being the center of attention. Sorry, Bruce. I am about totally exhausted. Center of attention?? Try whipping boy. I'm not into S&M. I am overly big on truth and just don't take garbage being crammed down my throat. Nothing personal. I had determined to vacate this den of in-ink-quity and give it up as a total lost cause. But that nice MrShutter rolled a cookie my way and I sat back down. I don't mind this secluded venue. I don't wish major exposure. I'm naturally anti-social, anti-war, anti-gay, anti-theistic, anti-Bleep, anti-lie, anti anything but pie. If Nick just said I promised to be quiet and I should be quiet, that's good enough for me. Mac said to go ahead and tell it. That is 180° from what Nick might be hinting at. I'll leave it to Nick, if he can speak direct English. I'm in the phone book.

I can say, "Richard Floyd McCoy, Jr." And I can say, "So help me God." And Ralph and Nick can explain their GAMES. You have no basis to make your assumptions other than seat of the pants guesses, or intentional badgering. You can draw no conclusions like Bleep does, as no have nothing to stand on but misinformation, smoke and mirrors. I have my word, which I value far more than you do. I do not see any comparison from my perspective. Throwing barbs is not productive, but I understand the satisfaction one can achieve from coming up with a good zinger. We could try to be professional, but that is boring. You only live three times or so.

"You need something else besides smoke, mirrors, and fantasy. Doesn't work that way." The difference between my story and yours, Bleep, is that you can fantasize what if scenerios and plug them in to make your story sound reasonable. I was told of Lyle's intention to tell a fake story about his brother wanting to be Cooper after his death. Jim Rataczak told me the story long before you got involved. See the association between your investigator and the story sources?? I don't use smoke and mirrors and dead men's LIES to make up cover stories at the behest of friends. If it isn't true, I won't repeat it as if it were. YOU have produced NOTHING BUT smoke and mirrors and misdirection, boldly, illegally, and consistently. You get on the bandwagon and preach my downfall at every minor opportunity. I must be a major risk or you would not stay awake nights watching my posts, wondering what big secret I'm going to release next. Attack MrShutter now, because he is assisting the enemy! God forbid the Georger should say anything supportive, or Jo should wake from her Crew induced dreamland and be shocked to realization of even ONE truth. I see you. I know what you are. So does everyone else. Does Gayla know you are back in Cooperdom? Perhaps we should send her an email? Giving that book company a bad name? P.S. YOU apologized to me half-assed last week. Should do it again. Wait till Mac talks to Bruce. WHOA!! Hang you out to dry, sucker!

You assume totally wrong on Janet. Janet HAD to see something of value, otherwise there would have been no response to her simple message. She did not go national, she quietly passed on information to the authorities. The fact that McCoy made the trip and a foul threat IS, in fact, proof that the information had merit. The fact that both Ralph and McCoy discuss flares being shot from a helicopter confirms flares which Janet independently offered. Perhaps she augmented her story with seeing a man, perhaps the reporting is not accurate on what she actually stated. Let's see the original communication. Let's ask "Janet" again. Janet is FACT and her statement is validated by others. Talk to the others. I will not write off Janet. She is real and confirmed viable.

Good job! I notice a much more "tippy-toe" approach to the facts. I see the veiled comment about keeping one's word to be silent. Wonder who in the Hell he could be throwing THAT at? Duhhhhhh.

I'm not asking to be saved, Bob, nor asking for an analysis of the literary value of the DZ. Rather, I'm asking if you enjoy being part of NORJAK. NO. I detest it. I was used. Unfairly, unwillingly, illegally. Nice guys, rotten tactics. Mean to Tina. Unforgivable. Answer your question? The whole thing stinks. Cover-up makes me puke. Happy?

I really don't want to, Jo. But if you really HAVE to know..... Ask Bill Rataczak. You are such close friends. Ask Karen McCoy since you talk to her. Hell, Ask Mac. You must have his number. "Once there was one, now there are three. Find my wife and you will find me." He is who I said he was. I'd love to see the expression on your face! You'd have to trash half your story. I WOULD accept an apple pie as an apology. I like PIE! CALL THEM!!!!!!!!! Quit yelling WOLF!! MAC-MAC-MAC-MAC

Then you need to search your mind, Bruce. You are not blind, although you act like it sometimes. I thought you might be a voice of reason, but it appears your well-being is in the control of this mob. Shouldn't be confused, buddy. I have a grudge. I also respect my friends, even if they no longer call me friend. I detest lies with every ounce in my body. I have ZERO tolerance for lies. ZERO! This forum it would appear is a den of pure fabricators and nay sayers. I would liken it to a LIAR'S CLUB of specific topic. A Cover-Up Cooper Forum designed to combat the TRUTH that Jo Weber seeks. A KANGAROO COURT in the truest sense of the word, They even posted it!! That is the conclusion I see and the opinion I have formed over the time spent exchanging information and thoughts here in this Cauldron. If that is not apparent to you, Bruce, then I can't save you. Don't ever seek the truth here, as it will never be forthcoming. And you can take THAT to the bank. But don't accept a check from these guys.

Repeat. You have no interest in investigating real facts in this case, only bogus ones. You can only badger and play stupid games about procedures that are black and white clear. If you cared one smidgen about truth you would not ignor all the gaping holes in the cover-up. You are more transparent than Jerry. At least Jerry actually knows some things. You twist whatever I say to fit your position rather than look at the facts. You are so obvious you make Matt look like a genius. You just tipped your whole game plan. You are an amateur at this, dude. I've played with the best of them, and you don't make the grade. Your panties are showing. I don't think you can be productive. I think you are a total waste of time. You impressed me with your approach to the clasp, but your conclusions fell short of finding any truth. You fall into the classification of just another cover-up blow hard. I don't need the help of losers. Guess I was wrong about you. You can't perform, you are a drag on the process. Talked a good game, but you are farting in the wind. Give it up. You don't have what it takes. Right? Nailed you.

Since you asked: McCoy was blown to pieces back in 1974 by the FBI because he was stupid enough to go for a gun when they confronted him. Bill Rataczak is a respected pilot who had a distinguished career with Northwest Airlines. He is now retired. When your name comes up on his Caller ID, like many other people, he ignores it. Any other questions? (*laughs*) I think another series of cartoons will be coming soon. 'Tommy Gunn'. That's truly funny, I will admit. Is he like Peter Gunn's brother or something? Ha ha. They do have something in common. Both are fictional characters. I thought you left. I told you that you were addicted. You are plucking blinking stars from the Heavens and putting rebuilt replacements back. Too bad you can't realize that Georger is stealing your new batteries. Your efforts are futile. It is not newsworthy. My story is HEADLINES!!! You need to send your little prodigy, the pablem spitter to the Vet's Hospital. He is developing water on the brain or something. Agent Orange, perhaps. Responding more like rabies infection than a brain fart, but hard to tell with him. His eyes cross, he gets red in the face, then he blurts out some nonsense, not understanding what was said. I am wondering if he slept over with Jamie Cooper. Could be catchy. Whatever it is, I am concerned for the poor guy. He definitely needs help to diagnose his problems. Obviously incoherent and not able to address the problem himself. He is your responsibility, you help him. I'd can his ass, myself.

"Geeze! I hope BK doesn't make this part of HIS BullShit now. Because of BK I hesitate to contribute one word to this thread, but here goes nothing." Ask and receive, Dear Jo. I have no BullShit except what you have provided. I have referred to Duane's pocket knife here before, but you would never remember. He ALWAYS carried a 3" pocket knife in his right pocket. Just a small one. He showed it to me. Nice, horn handle. I always carried one too, but mine was smaller, 1.5" and all stainless, single blade. Cheap. He didn't carry a lighter and was always out of matches. He'd bum a cigarette from me, then stick it behind his ear and ask for another, or ask Bill. We both smoked straights Bill Lucky Strike, and me Pall Mall, and duane didn't like them, but being free, he'd certainly take every one he could get. Got so I'd take 2 and give him the pack. He preferred the "lady" cigarettes with filters, no flavor, light mint or menthol. Salem was too strong. But if they were free..... The knife will do you no good for trying to match it to the chords because the chords are made of small strands and would retain no characteristics of the knife. Give them the knife and, "POOF!" And I know nothing of Duane after McCoy's incarceration except what you told me and that is not important to me in the least. Duane was a pawn in McCoy's story. Nothing more. Just tell the truth and I won't bother you. Tell us another fib and I'm all over you like a dirty shirt. Tell the real truth about Mac and Rataczak. I think you have the FBI guys pegged correctly and you are finally telling the truth about the conspiracy, which, if you remember, you opposed quite vigorously?? We should get the basic facts straight before concentrating so heavily on the filler information. I plan to be around for another 20 years. I wish you many more as well. We could be Buds!

The ONLY way we can get any information on my records is to mail a written request to St. Louis because I was born before 1960. They will NOT give me anything over the phone. ALL records prior to 1960 are in St. Loius. It is exactly as I stated before. There is no way I can get any information from the people I spoke to today, so your information as always, is INCORRECT. They all had wrong telephone numbers for me to call. What a screw-up operation! I spent a full hour getting nothing but the run-around. But I tried. Can't be done like you say.

Ha-ha-ha! You are funnier than Jerry Thomas!! Facts are facts. You continue to badger. Purged was the term McCoy used. "Nothing unusual" is what my girlfriend reported. You continue to discard valuable information and pursue discreditation on minor points rather than wait for facts. I speak the truth and can guess at facts if necessary, just like everyone else does 100% of the time. At least I KNOW the difference. If Kaye thinks the money was buried at Tena's Bar, then my information about the flight path and jump location is consistent with his supposition. Add another witness to facts that add up. Let's try calling for a live operator and see if we can get a live answer to your questions today. Have you read O'Hara's story of arresting Walker in Va. in 1968 while he was stationed in the Minneapolis Office? Nick worked here from when I was in college and spoke to him about a pyramid scheme that was being played at the dorms with out-of-state college kids. 1963 as I recall. in March 1968 he was talking to McCoy about Norjak. McCoy buddied up with Walker 1972-74 in Va. and O'Hara was there too. Those two were joined at the hip. Father and son. Film stars. Remember the TV series with Nick O'Hara played by David Jansen? "Yah, I really like my name!" Nick told me. Have you verified the FBI evidence being a Brigham Young Pin instead of the switched tie clasp? Facts are all there, all you have to do is Google, "Brigham Young Medallion." Facts are all still there, predating the clasp. You farted away lots of time putting the false clip on the map. but I don't see you showing the slightest bit of interest in the real truth. The medallion with Mac's initials. I don't see you looking at the helicopter chase segments of the Cooper made for TV films for McCoy's stand-in. I don't see you investigation Henry Selick's post plastic surgery pictures. That one is a piece of cake. Any fool can verify that one. No, you have no interest in the real truth, you have an interest in shoveling dirt on a Doctor who didn't like his first name, making a mountain of a molehill, or a false flag thingy of a whistle blower with a long list of realisms which you very boldly try in vain to minimize with trivialism. You could at least cover your blazen attempt with a little effort to look like you really had SOME interest in something other than cover-up stories. So far, you have yet to persue ANYTHING of relative value to the case in fact. Only the case in FALSE fact. Your panties are showing MrShutter. Don't wet them. Do something constructive rather than destructive. No, you have not been fair to me, and you have asked no questions of value. You will get answers that are true, if you ask them. I think you only wish to bore the subject to death. Talk to Ralph about the den discussion. Talk to Rataczak about the den discussion. Talk to Tenent about Mac getting his job back. Or, ask Britt Hume who got the answer out of Tenent. Better yet, ask McCoy or O'Hara. But you probably already know the answer, otherwise you wouldn't try so hard to avoid the subject. You see, guys, your charade is not a secret. It is a laughing stock. You guys are funnier than "I Love Lucy" with the cake conveyor. Your fabrications just flop frosting down on the floor and you just keep pumping them out. Your acting job sucks. Almost as much as Mattie's is lacking. I really do appreciate your helping me scrounge the dark corners of my mind for the rest of the things that I had not yet drawn out. You really have helped me, but you have yet to shine a light on ONE DAMNED THING that really happened. Credit to 1/2 of Jo's story being garbage. You CAN NOT CHANGE FACTS, only erase or change words. The truth is still the truth and it is awfully hard to bury it all. Now, do you want to play fair, or do you want to admit your obvious tactics to Dropzone readers?? Never say, "die!" right? "Williams, shoot Sgt. Smith, there." "Yes, Sir!" BOOM! "Thank you, Sir!"

What Georger said, plus a correction on Bleeps correction on Kaye's correction. Of course, it is only a guess, but a more informed guess than the heretoafore mentioned professional guessers with cover-up intentions. See correction of corrections attached. Per McCoy and TOG, and Janet, and Cook, and Ralph, and not Jo, because Jo doesn't know. Gotta go make some dog carts that were just sold. Anybody got some 80+# dogs you want to train for Dog Sulkies? Exciting new sport and I make the best you can buy in the USA. Cheap. No profit, just funner than this. Check out the true story of O'Hara and Walker from 1968 and follow McCoy from 68-74, then combine the stories. It's all available in plain sight on the internet. Mac worked for O'Hara under Project Norjak and received his promotion with a whatchacallit flag thingy shooting a John Doe corpse in the chest with a shotgun. Listen to the whole true story (and the undercover cover stuff) from Mac's cop buddy in his hometown. Johnny Surles, if you want to search it. If you put the entire story together, It will support my claim of Mac responding to Janet, since Mac was working the Cooper operation for O'Hara SA in charge of Norjak. You can also find film on all the stories, including the Captain Tommy Gunn Maffioso riverboat arrests of 7 or 9 or so top criminals. Movie Star, porno star, Super Cop, Wannabe that did. And you got a problem with the doctor's initials? Right. That's serious. Actually, the doctor that I saw most often was Dr. Otto Wandke, a partner of Thayer's in the same office. HE actually used a first name. Very rarely saw Thayer, Thayer just offered to write the letter for my induction.

Doctor did not use a first name. Impossible to remember facts that did not exist. That's a dead horse. EA were his initials according to records, but he was not called "EA". Actual draft dates are being verified. I want to give you the accuracy you request, not guesses. I do know the difference, as stated. You are badgering again.

Yup. Made $1.85 an hour as asst. manager at the Cedar porno movie house. Jim Johnson, manager. 3.2 GPA. 6 girlfriends with money. And building my '54 Ford 409ci, 3 spd '57 Merc., 6 carb log, 4:11 '57 rear from rebuilt free junkyard scrap pile iron. (The junkyard owner was a girlfriend's uncle and gave me whatever I needed.) Squeekin' fer sure. I mowed lawns for girlfriends dads, and even worked vacation shift for one.

are you shocked he didn't, it's in black and white, no big deal. Another CREW attack. I did exactly as I said. You only reinforce the claim of prejudice and cover-up. I will happily settle for proving involvement in cover-up after the fact. Just keep confirming the proof. I copy it all.

Who is TOG? The Other Guy. The one we never mention because he is above ever having done anything. The guy with children. A pillar in the community. A really nice guy, who we can't name or Blevins will sue us for him. He is a name that has been changed to protect his character. I can live with that if it allows the whole story to be released.

Back to the flight path alteration by TOG, sighted by Janet, confirmed by McCoy to me and TOG to Ralph and me, as stated by Towsaw and Gayland Cook?? Will Ralph discuss the contents of the discussion in his den? Has he already disclosed that? Any word on communications in the timeframe around Portland? Maybe it was Ralph's book that noted the radio transmission for 305 to stay clear of Portland populated areas with a bomb? Why were there no communications with the Portland tower? Why was there no hand-off? What about the deleted radio conversations from 305? What about the winds that 305 was supposedly compensating for? What about TOG's admission of flying by dead reckoning in 'total overcast' or what ever you call it? Couldn't be total if Janet had a clearing. Too may people with information about where the flight was or wasn't. Line up the witnesses. Split them left and right by east and west. Then identify the parties in each group. Pilots and friends on one side, humans on the other, supported by confessions by Mac and TOG. Way beyond the obvious here, guys. A Smokin' Gunn!

Quotegetting a draft notice is very similar to when people talk about where they were when JFK was shot or MLK and when the tower fell, it's a moment in your life you tend not to forget! I moved on to things that were of interest. THAT was a pain in the ass to forget, not to remember. Yes, I do remember where I was when JFK was shot. Not MLK, RFK, Marilyn, or anybody else though. Just got my hemaroids under control. OOPs! Sorry. "I'm game to try this new approach" REALLY I'm confused as to why this wasn't the first place you would look given the fact that one would go straight to the source VS going to the FOIA website? what did you ask them, I need my records from the Select Services about my Induction or Draft notice? Obviously the only reason I'm doing this is because you think it is important to have written records. I have no idea at all where to find any of that stuff. My attorney did all that on his own with my authorization. Yes, that's what I asked for, plus any attachments, the complete file. I don't know if that is the same file we are talking about, I'm just trying to comply to your request. I followed your instructions and the instructions on the phone. Sorry. That is what it said to do. That's what I did. If you want to do it for me, you can, if you keep the numbers private. I have NOTHING to hide. If it's "wiped clean" there is no "new approach" Never looked myself. Can't imagine that my draft board records would be non-existent. I could understand sanitizing a file, but not completely destroying it. Why wouldn't it still be in Fairmont? your College Education has failed at this attempt of record search? I doubt it. The letter was just sent. Never took Government Records 101. I was a 'dumb jock' just squeeking by, chasing women day and night and never studying. Did not really have to so I didn't. No regrets. I'm content with my life so far. Levenworth would not be kool though.

I did all that and had to process through what was not born before 1960, then it said nobody was available to help. It clearly states that all records with birth dates prior to 1960 are kept in St. Louis. I can try your routing again on Monday to see if it works then, but so far, following instructions, I get what I got before. I sent my request form to St. Louis because the records are not at Palatine. That seemed really clear.

No, there was nobody on the steps. Nobody on the sidewalks, nobody in the halls. Just a room full of guys, 30 or so taking a written test. I sat down and finished the test before anybody else, all of whom started way before me. The rest of the room was guys in drawers and one guy in a bra. Folding tables with army guys sitting behind them and short lines in front of each on the other side of the tables. No jokes either. Until we got to the "spread your other cheeks smart ass." That was not me. "Any fooling around and you are in on the spot."