JamieCooper

just quoting this in case Jo changes it later as has been the case in the past, seriously, how are these threats that I could lose my child tolerable? Jo the most likely explanation to your search is this. DW was a DB Cooper fan, he researched and thought he knew who DB Cooper was. maybe thats wht he was trying to relay on his deathbed? or he went a little delirious on his deathbed, it happens to pretty much everyone when their braincells are dying. I am sorry that there haven't been any good answers for you, especially after so much time and money has been spent on looking for these answers. I know from my own experiences, that this had to occur to you at least once. I personally doubt my parents story just as much as I believe it. or at least I used to doubt it, since coming here, I only found more supporting evidence. I didn't want it to be true. the problem is, it's the only story I have. I can only relay what I saw and heard. my mother is my mother the family resemblance is obvious, as is my father, my father. I know you feel you have something to suggest otherwise but can't you hear how bizarre that sounds? if you really have something share it here for us all! I'm not afraid for everyone on earth to know whatever it is you think you know about me! did you uncover something in your search that connected my name to the DB Cooper case? was there a statement somewhere about my name and birthdate that you are hiding? jo u are either under a number of misconceptions or deliberately trying to twist my words. I saw wgat was inside the briefcase, it wasn't hidden from me, it was hidden from my father and police for bargaining power with both.

the name, I use Jamie because my parents though my father would eventually be found out. thus I being jr. would have the modern day equivalent of "Bernie Madoff jr." for a name. thats why my first name became an alias. it would be much more difficult to change the last name, involving far too many other people. the jacket I am referring to was my fathers, given to me as a teenager, I considered it a trenchcoat, it was black on one side and tan on the other, a overcoat, or raincoat, made to match well over a suit ,for example on a rainy day. I don't know if I still have it or not, I will have to dig around and see. the dollar amount i'm asking about is the Tena bar find, why would DW chose roughly $6k?, why would he throw it in the river? as for the $200k, none of you know why! you might have a plausible theory but you don't know why! neither do I! this incessant, "Go back and read the thread" claptrack is tired! I have read it, it's many posts just proving you(Jo) wrong, fruitless searches, speculations, and obviously some very valuable info as well, but this crap that I should read literally thousands and thousands of rambling posts about a subject I apparently already seem to know better than most without even researching it. is just ridiculous! while I'm lacking physical evidence in some instances, isn't odd how everything I've said fits perfectly? none of it requiring any improbable stretches of the imagination? all of it easily provable with a couple search warrants or even just checking an existing casefile. the house i last saw the proof in, has changed hands a couple times, the owner who built the house and hid the briefcase died a few years ago. this is why a search warrant would be best. that way there would be reliable witnesses of its discovery, with authority to look inside the wall or under a floorboard. police could analyze and gain access to the accounts, and records, that there are papers from in the briefcase, which in and of itself is evidence. I can't access bank accounts of which I don't know the numbers of, or tax info on my fathers or anyone other than my own. it would require law enforcement to do so. I can't dig into the "Willy Vocks" case file to access my fathers fingerprints, law enforcement would have to. and lastly, these threats that I could seem like a bad parent? if authorities were reading? are you insane? my children are adults, except one teen who is an honor roll student. try doing at least minimal research before trying to threaten and slander the names of people! better yet, just stick to the facts, theres no justification for making threats or freaking out over another poster having a db cooper story or theory that doesn't match yours. I personally hope others come up with a better theory, or prove me wrong.

Blevins, whats your theory on why KC chose to wear the clothing db cooper did for norjack?

Occam’s razor! the least complicated answer is most likely the truth! his name was Don Cooper, Dan being misunderstanding or deliberate exploitation of the similarity He was a pilot, and ATC, and had a relative who was involved with the 727 CIA Jump tests in Japan in 1970, that were recently revealed via the freedom in information act. He was there for a job interview, which explains the clothing. it was a reversible jacket, black on one side, tan on the other. he was 6 foot tall (estimate not fact) but matches, dark complected, brown eyed, possibly in his 40's(estimate not fact) my father was 28 and recenlty been discharged from the army, recently was a murder suspect, on 2nd marriage, new baby, 2 other kids not his, was told not come home empty handed meaning without getting the boeing job, which he didn't. all of which along with the clothing made him seem older. Caucasian or of Latin decent (also opinion not fact)but matches. being from MN meant the cold wasn't even a factor, being an outdoors-man meant the terrain wasn't an impossible problem. being a good tipper and sociable drinker meant he could make friends easily and dissapear just as easily. the Tena Bar money? was never mentioned but the dollar amount and Tina Mucklow being offered almost the same is a possibility, who knows? its doubtful anyone would dump it without a motive deliberately. (Jo, any explanation as to why DW would chose that dollar amount?) on top of this we have a confession, and explaination of where the money went (Fairmount readymix, and construction equipment) or we have a guy claiming he did it, and his wife divorcing and blackmailing a lookalike since a couple years after norjack, over it without any proof even to the point of making her child (ME) use a fake name because it was just taken for granted he would eventually be caught but again all BS? seems like alot to go thru and put a child thru just to fake it, what would the payoff even be? i wasnt supposed to even tell anyone. better yet why would he tolerate being blackmailed over a lie? most reasonable explanation, according to Occam’s razor is My father was DB Cooper like he admitted.

if this was the case, it would have been a snap to locate and convict all who were involved or at least manufacture a patsy theres nothing simple about any part of your story

oh cmon now Im also saying where I last saw the briefcase full of incr7minating evidence and explained a previously unsolved murder in which the casefile may have prints proving db cooper was my father im attaching a pic of the house i saw the briefcase hidden in the attic of in 1982 someone should get a search warrant! db coopers age was estimated, not fact! at least accept that

i've personaly never to the area so maybe someone has can answer this? is there any popular folklore in the area about db cooper?

Jamie, This connection between Tena and Tina has been discussed before. I am surprised that it is taken seriously. If Cooper wanted to "prove" anything to Tina there were about a million better ways to do it besides finding a location within walking distance of his landing that had a name that sounded like Tina, dropping a few grand in the sand and hoping it would be found, turned in and that Tina would see the connection. Chances are that it if was found in good condition the money would be kept and/or spent. Tina would never have known. As far as throwing money away... buying drinks for everyone at a bar isnt throwing it away. There is an immediate social benefit. I really have a bias in favor of Cooper having survived the jump. I fully admit it. It makes me discount the money as evidence that he didnt survive the jump, but a rational person would see it for what it is. It isnt proof that Cooper cratered, but it sure favors that explanation over survival scenarios. I like to think the money or at least a portion of it got away from him during the jump. That way I can get around Quade's compelling logic that people (especially thieves) do not throw money away. He is right, they don't. 377 I hear you but at the same time think, wouldn't many options been smarter in theory concerning norjack. yet as it turns out, because of his just following instinct that he pulled it off.

I'd like to read all of Tina Mucklows testimony. I can't see anything short of a eye witness account proving how that money got there. and even that would be questionable.

ill throw another suggestion in the mix. not only was it to throw off would be pursuers, it was a message to Tina Mucklow, thus "tena bar" was purposly chosen. would anyone know of any reports of a man in a tan trench/raincoat in that area on the night? or is there a tavern/bar near "tena bar", i ask because my fathers coat was reversible and he said he went to a bar after and drank and found a ride this idea that no one throws away that much money? I saw my dad dump $1,000 in a night b4 just on drinks for strangers. i can see him doing it to prove he made it to Tina, and to rub it in that she could have had that money whether you believe my father was "db" or not, I can guarantee he never knew he got away with it. it haunted him to the end. I use the name "Jamie" because it was just taken for granted, He would eventualy be caught.

I've toyed with the idea that it may have been to make people think he drowned but, my father never said anything at all about it so I can't reasonably disagree with your idea here either. it sounds reasonable but still, wouldn't a paperbag decompose quit fast too? thus leaving the money exposed to the elements longer than the experts estimate? I guess in the end its only guesses either way so? I don't think we'll ever know for sure.

but wouldn't it have been decomposed more if it had been there since 1971? while I agree many authors could essentially molest the names of the dead, the dead can give up many secrets! public records and such at the very least. one of the problems in solving NORJACK is that it probably would require supena power to obtain proof. if I could get a search warrant, there is a possibility I could have proof by tomorrow morning.

Ludicrous. If DB Cooper lived and the plan was to return the money, then how did he lose control over the money and it find its way to Tena Bar? It's also very convenient for each party with a pet theory, including yourself. I'd wager a guess this is the real reason that you're willing to speak freely about the dead, but not so much the quick. the good thing about the dead being involved is they can't change any evidence, at least if there is any. problem is they can't be interviewed either. as for this Tena Bar money, has it been proven that he lost control of the money? I haven't heard a consensus on how it got there yet.

this "Catch Me If You Can." parody aside, whats this significance of the pics attached of Helen Keller and such?

"When I told her we believed Kenny Christiansen and D.B. Cooper were one and the same, she hardly blinked. " why should she? it's not like this theory just recently surfaced.

"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig." to each their own I figger, strange how even on the web that gun toting insecurity bleeds through. oh yeah wheres db coopers body? I rest my case.

If have no parachute you are_____? parachute-less duh ,lol ;)

If you have no guns you are ____? less likely to have a gun related accident, less likely to be the victim of a violent crime, and not overcompensating for something

lol nope! parachuting has always existed, it wasn't invented by creative people taking chances and pulling off what was previously thought impossible. thats why noone has found a body or anything to support the idea that he failed. yet we can pinpoint a rock on mars from earth. lol the white man has got a gun, thats his whole problem. I'll be checking it out! have a great holiday season.

Dead link Jamie. try again. 377 deleted the post because I found it was edited misleadingly it's a snippet from a military film titled "flying men, flying machines" dated 1971 toward the end the edited snippet had audio saying "we are here in Thailand..." I downloaded the full original film and that audio was taken from the segment directly after the jump capabilities demonstration. someone either edited this video to be misleading on purpose or by accident. thus wrongly supporting this Thailand CIA jump theory. after looking at the extracted audio wav file it was obviously edited to mislead. the original film plainly shows these jump tests were in or near Yokota Japan. the film was commissioned by the CIA and Air America I found a newspaper article that shows my uncle was stationed at the Navel air facility in Atsugi near Tokyo. the same vicinity of these tests, from 1968 to 1971 as production control chief. the relevance? He could have talked about the 727 jump capabilities with my father.(for example while home for a holiday visit), thus my Father could have had at least limited knowledge of how to pull off the NORJACK jump before going to Seattle. snippet I edited to remove the misleadingly added audio. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjJPNx72JBc full untouched original version can be downloaded at: http://www.vietnam.ttu.edu/AirAmerica/FMFM/index.htm

http://www.dropzone.com/images/videos/assets/4/1924-Flying_Men__Flying_Machines.wmv It's been suggested these jump tests in this video were in Thailand? I don't understand? it flat out says it's in japan. where are people getting the idea it's Thailand? and yes I've already read through the old posts.

Jamie, We DBC forum addicts "get" FACEBOOK, but we dont want to eat at McDonalds. This forum is a little run down diner on the back streets of Coallinga or Mojave. The front window was broken ten years ago and it's still covered with plywood. No Yelp reviews, no Zagat ratings, hell, not even a printed menu, but we like it here. Stick around. Pretty soon you will be considered a regular and entitled to take shots (gentle or harsh, depending on your character) at the next person who comes up with a new DBC. 377 Christ.... so we need another wuffo... I just want to throw everyone from a plane... OK OK I will at least let em have a parachute. lol I'd love to jump out of a plane!

thanks, as I am 40 and both of my parents died in their early 60's I'm well aware of my impending mortality. even in this short post again, attempts put words in the mouths of others, "leave for facebook"? the message that should have came across was that scoffing at facebook is just being obstinate and pigheaded. (not being able to see the Forrest because of the trees) an all too common theme on this forum.

I've gone back and read, and read, and read, theres no way to absorb it all. not even a reasonable suggestion. for the most part it's just Jo says this, and everyone else proves her wrong... ad nausem. someone is rude, often provoked, and theres attempts to shame... repeat... wind variables, attempts to fulfill a preconceived "centralist agenda" that he died in the jump. which of course have all failed for roughly 40 years now. you are operating under a number of false presumptions, like many others here. perhaps you should apply some of your advice to yourself. you haven't even grasped the point of my most recent post. the comic book lead is bunk. no wonder most on here wanted me to not look into it calling it a dead end. it calls into question the validity of this forum. if it's greatest achievement was to fabricate and distort the actual facts of the case. at best it's accidentally misleading, at worst, a deliberate fabrication of which some of those you mentioned are to blame. this forum has revealed itself to be of little more than a quasi-high school drama. I haven't seen a single thing here that has moved anyone closer to establishing the identity of DB Cooper, or the where abouts of the ransom money. perhaps thats the real reason the FBI stopped posting here? good god some of you don't even grasp the value of facebook, a online community that 1 out of every 10 people on the entire planet uses daily. the definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over expecting a different result. I'll leave you to it. best wishes and thanks to the few who actually have something to contribute here other than pecking order and presumptuous self serving already proven wrong, BS.

http://comicanuck.blogspot.com/2009/03/pursuit-of-dan-cooper-rcaf-fbi-explores.html also I heard Larry Carr say that He got the idea from an online forum in a radio broadcast that can be listened to at http://www.stevenrinehart.com/pages/?section=2&page=9 "paint chips" it's garbage like this that has cost all of you "DB Cooper" over and over.