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It was peered by the "Journal of 9/11 studies". It's a conspiracy journal. His real peers distanced themselves from him _____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln

Why does every hypothesis to you have to be peer reviewed? I don't understand why you are grasping this particular straw so hard. _____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln

[spaceballs]How many assholes engineers do we have in this thread anyway?!![/spaceballs] _____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln

This is definitely stereotyping. He is using a commonly known stereotype of Engineers being socially inept and having undesirable dating qualities. Are ITs officially Engineers? I seriously don't know. If they are, I find it funny that he can't help pissing people off. _____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln

Till your car suddenly catches fire. Man, you really are pushing some buttons here. Generalizing stereotypes to whole segments will definitely piss a lot off. Especially if you are telling them that they are failures at dating and getting laid, which is the number one topic in this forum. _____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln

This is a red herring. I seriously doubt NIST needs to have their investigation peer reviewed. They are all scientists and engineers working together on an investigation, not a new scientific idea. _____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln

Present warships named after enlisted servicemenbers. USS gonzales: USMC DDG 66 USS the Sullivans: five sullivan brothers USN: DDG 68 USS Sthethem USN DDG 63 USS Benfold USN DDG 65 Osmond Ingram (DD 255). Commissioned 1919 Uss reuben james FFG57 USS Rodney M Davis FFG 60 USMC And many many more. _____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln

If we could send all of those hard working illegals home, we could pick chilis for $25 for a four gallon bucket. What?? And risk a jar of Pace Picante sauce to cost over $100? Salsa would become a commodity. Although. . .(thinking. . .thinking) _____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln

That's just Botox Can't say you're wrong here _____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln

My experience was different. I remember much shorter tempers and overall attitudes being much lower in my childhood. I've noticed that generally, wealthier people have a smaller chip on their shoulders and tend to get "worry lines" twenty years or so later in life. _____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln

Looks like i'm the only dissenter here. I hated hard work. I picked chili alongside my mom as a kid. $4 a 25 gallon bucket. I promised myself I would rise above this, get a degree and never had to work hard again. I even thought myself better for accomplishing this. Whoops. Very narrow of me. Manual labor is not the only genera of hard work. Intellectual persuits come at an intense dicipline. I have much respect for attorneys and doctors. I hated the fact I had to do a lot to get to where I am, but in the end i'm proud of myself, and I'm not finished yet. But there's drudgery getting there and I didn't enjoy it. At least I didn't shy away from the work. One of these years I will have those three stripes on my graduation gown. I won't need it anymore, but I want it. I only hope my daughter growing up around this sees hard work as a norm rather than a barrier and not think twice about it as I had. Work sucks. _____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln

1. It will never be full employment. employment works like the Market also. There's pay vs. # of employees. If you employ 100%, everybody will get paid a lot less. But people tend to get fired for being stupid. I believe 3% unemployment is the absolute best you can do. 2.Just because the FED was not able to prevent something doesn't mean they aren't paying attention and not working the issue. this is supposed to happen. If things stay the same price and don't change, we would run out of money to be used. You got to expand the money supply to reflect increases of population, goods, jobs, services, ect. ect. . . Again, you are arguing like a Gold Bug. do you understand the concept of Money? Yup, gold Bug. do those "double eagle" coins on TV commercials make your mouth water? Read up on money, history of money, Bretton Woods Act and Monetary policy of the US and World. check out Investopedia. FED.gov and start reading. Same as most people do: IRA's, Stocks, Bonds, ETF's Mutual funds, commodities, Real properties ect. ect. Cash reserves should equal about six+ months worth of income for unexpected problems. Relatively speaking, this is not much in comparison to retirements and investments. In my opinion, cash reserves is wasteful for things other than an emergency relief fund, kind of like a "you have to" _____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln

It was never meant to store value. It never has, it never will. This sounds like a Gold Bug argument. I know you dont. Study up on this. This is Conspiracy Theory crap. The pupose of the fed is: “to promote effectively the goals of maximum employment, stable prices, and moderate long-term interest rates.” Your post right here shows a lack of basic understanding that has lead to very wrong assuptions. this tells me you get your understanding of how the economy works from unreputable websites, conspiracy sites, and such but not from actually sitting down and studying it. _____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln

The FED does this all the time. They manipulate the M1 supply. This is intentional and one of the biggest reasons for its existance. Understand that the whole purpose of money is to be an instrument of trade; not something to consider as an asset. What you gain by its use should be considered the asset, or loss. The FED buys/sells bonds to take the money out/"print money" which manipulates the amount of cash floating around the economy. This keeps the trade value as close as possible. Of course this is a huge guessing game of when to pull or print(This is by far the biggest amount of work and time spent with the eggheads). For instance: If the fed pulls too late here in the next several months or year, we will end up in an Inflationary period. Pull too early, they will prevent enough recovery. This is example of Supply manipulation. Demand manipulaton: Intentionally holding a product from release to drive up price. Example Cartels, bid rigging, price fixing. Ogliopoly and their game theories that make demand curve kinks. (not neccessarily an intentional form of manipulation, but throws out simple rules of demand side economics) True, but. But this does not in itself will not alway cause your hyperinflation, it prevents deflation. How about propping up amount of money to be used in the economy. Housing prices are a product of Demand. The problem here is you are using a Supply side argument (money supply) to explain a Demand side purpose(Housing pricing). Do not get crossed here. Supply is not the opposite of Demand. They are not related. They are compared only when they are graphed together to figure out economic equalibrium. (My economics professor used to throw stuff at us for making this mistake.). Only if the FED reacts in time. And again, does not mean inflation. People have to use the money in the first place. Outside influence may prevent that, like in today's instance, unwillingness to spend. Printing money happens all the time. It's a dynamic cycle of the FED. This chart attached, though simple, will demonstrate: Upward moving of the line represents the FED printing money. downward movement represents the FED pulling it back. At the end, you will notice the dramatic increase of the M1. Despite that we are not in an inflationary positon. As I said, If the FED pulls at the right time, we will miss the Inflation. If you are not the first, you are probably in the group that own bad debt in the first place. Nope. The definition of Inflation is: sustained increase of prices of goods and services. Money Supply increases faster than real output Well. . .that was dickheaded of me. I edited my rude comments out of my last post. _____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln

Just did. There's more money released; no hyperinflation. The fed has been pumping money into the economy since the middle of last year. the supply of money did not increase the costs of much of anything at all. Things still cost the same now. If anything, it's cheaper. I had to lower my rent to future tenants by $100 this past month, for instance. We do not have your hyperinflation because no one is using money. This is easily checked just by watching the News and various websites. If you can manipulate supply and manipulate demand, you can change the "logical" outcome of a enonomic probability. There is no "always upper pressure. . ." Most of the time, when the Fed throws money into the economy, it does not cause inflation: During health periods, as well as down times, the Fed does this, and they also take the money back out. _____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln

This is a false quote. The phrases "inflation" and "deflation" did not come about till way after his death. "Deflation" is a 1900's term. Besides, this was a period around the Revolutionary War. _____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln

Yes they can. Except in this time where nobody is buying stuff. Cost is still low. When talking about supply or demand, there are other things here that can make assumptions false. _____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln

What the FUCK does that mean? Holy shit! Does the author even undestand that line of shit? It means if you are under Vetrans coverage, and the VA say you are granted a certain level of coverage, the Sec. will tax you if you underutilize it. Sounds like you are being taxed for not spending tax money. _____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln

Please excuse my lack of attention to detail I'm thinking more of conventional warfare. Their version of the tomahawk, anti-ship missiles, harbor mining, ect. ect. Also, with Russia now exporting their Nuclear powered boats, along with thier conventional diesel boats, a lot of countrys have some deadly capabilities of cold war Russia. _____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln

All you guys are arguing about air attacks. No one here yet has talked about submarine threats and their ability wreck havoc. What about threats from surface ships? with our 65 bil navy, we would have three subs per coast and 5 warships. Most threat countries have highly capable subs that no UAV will be able to find. Also, the UAV arguments and their future capability are starting to add up cost and maintenance wise. I have an idea that if we have to scale down to meet the minimums, and use UAVs to cover the area that the abandoned surface radar and sattelite used to do, their resulting numbers will never allow for getting close to 2X the budget. _____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln

Yeah, you are right. What the hell would Canada want with montana? That sounds good on paper, but you still need the manning, and a considerable amount of it. As of right now, the total of personnel required per vehicle (maintenance, pilots, TOC personnel, transportation types, ect.) would be lost in the proposed crunch. There is a lot more behind-the-scenes with these vehicles than a person can read about. Also I haven't heard of any of them shooting down fast flyers and missiles yet. Don't get me wrong here. This is a fine idea for me. I get to stay home more. But my thinking here is the fact that maybe political pressure from these other countries may get in the way. The move will hurt them some. Maybe they really want their programs. They may make an economic issue with it since they have enough of a leverage nowadays. _____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln

Interesting concept. If we go that route, we would have a lot of barriers to overcome. Though we play with NATO, there are security clearance barriers. If countries share assets equally, one country couldn't be restricted from a certain area. Granting a blanket Top Secret for all participating nations is definitely a big negative. We have enough security issues as it is. This would mean that some country would have to completely own it and as far as I know, we would definitely be the country that supplies the most, which means that the cost isn't decreased. It will probably increase. Canada is bracketed by Alaska, G-I-UK, and the U. S. They use U. S. torpedoes and other major weapons and sensors and has major partnerships with the U. S. Military (example, CASR) _____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln

That would give us no air craft carriers, one marine amphibious ship 10 cruisers/destroyers/frigates, 6 submarines, half a SEAL team and 23 people to support them, 1 USMC infantry brigade, no aviation program for them, Air Force's air defence would be too spotty to even need to exist. Coastal defence would be enough to cover the whole coastline of South Carolina. Ect, ect. Actual combatants in the Service are heavily outnumbered by their support. There's no way around that. There wouldn't be enough to protect us at our borders and coasts(which are many times larger) Many of those european countries have very agreeable terrain and geographically located in which they don't need much of a military, especially with this community protection under the politically friendly. The U. S. contributes greatly (with the wars removed out of the equasion)If we are to scale down, they all will need to pitch in and contribute to the huge hole left with our presence not being there. (good luck in the Sea Lanes) I believe if they had to do that, they would not be able to have their perks they enjoy, like their free health care and others. _____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln

GMGMQ.PK= GMGM(name of stock), Q (code for bankruptcy proceedings), .PK (traded on the Pink Sheets) The list of codes on the last letter of a stock symbol: Code: Meaning A: Class A. B: Class B. C: Exempt from Nasdaq listing requirements for a limited period of time. D: A new issue of an existing stock. (Often the result of a reverse split.) E: Delinquent in required filings with the SEC as determined by the NASD. F: Foreign. G: First Convertible Bond. H: Second Convertible Bond, same company. I: Third Convertible Bond, same company. J: Voting. K Non-voting. L: Miscellaneous situations such as foreign preferred, preferred when-issued, a second class of units, a third class of warrants, or a sixth class of preferred stock. M: Fourth preferred, same company. N: Third preferred, same company. O: Second preferred, same company. P: First preferred. Q: In bankruptcy proceedings. R: Rights. S: Beneficial interest. T: With warrants or with rights. U: Units. V: When-issued and when-distributed. W: Warrants. X: Mutual Fund. Y: ADR (American Depositary Receipts). Z: Miscellaneous situations such as a second class of warrants, a fifth class of preferred stock, a stub, a foreign preferred when-issued, or any unit, receipt, or certificate representing a limited partnership interest." _____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln

Like any company that declared bankruptcy, it's stock is knocked off to the "pinks" or over-the-counter. It's almost guaranteed that they will be declared useless and GM will be relisted under new stocks. The original stocks never convert to the old ones. And they rarely, if ever, recover and get relisted. It's much easier if the company to declare them worthless and reissue new stocks under a new IPO. I'm pretty sure you may know this, but I know a lot of people who have it in their heads that if they buy the stocks now it will sooner or later go back to its original heights. And .60 a share to 30 dollars a share is an extreme multiplication of money that people are attracted to. This is not the "fire sale" of buying stocks like companies such as AXP. They don't realise the fact that a delisted stock never recovers. Delisting is an "event horizon" in the market. _____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln