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For hundreds of years bad translations have been made of bad translations that were made from bad translations....... With that in mind, how could anyone possibly know the exact content of the original writings? Exactly, but I like the ones that include reincarnation and no hell

"I'm really just a boring, conservative pastor and I start everyday reading the New Testament," he says. "But my suggestion is that we should read the text as it is, not as we think it is." Jerry, Which New Testament are you referring to? The market-place is being glutted with new books which are being represented as versions of the Bible. Each one claims to be the very word of God, yet there are literally thousands of differences between them. Protestant translators sometimes did not have access to all of the Received Greek Official Text of the King James version, they sometimes put words into their translations based upon the Latin which were never there in the original Greek. There are a shitload of wrongly translated versus, omissions of important teachings like reincarnation, and inclusions of myths like “Hell”. These exclusions were designed to keep the masses in order. You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

Thank you for your service to our Country. And thanks for having the balls to do something our government wont. http://pobeptsworld.wordpress.com/2009/07/24/illegal-aliens-are-a-real-threat-to-americans/ You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

The Skyvan & Otter are carpeted and have more room, but they all climb about the same. The PAC is certainly more efficient in regards to eating fuel which equates to the continued success of the DZ which we all want. You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

I like the slow lane because it's easier at 60 than 80 to pitch the empty beer bottles at road signs. Right you are, and its also easier to throw your trash onto the side of the road leaving the roadway free from unsightly litter. You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

Yeah, but what if we can't reach it anymore?

Here are the 1st 400 from an old thread here 1 MA Lewis B Sanborn 2 MA Jacques A Istel 3 MA Dana Paul Smith 4 MA Darius Vakharia 5 PA Steve Snyder 6 MO George P Taylor 7 AK Heisel Christian 8 VA Verlin Glenn 9 CA Lt. James P Pearson 10 NY Robert M McDonnell 11 GA Danny Byard 12 NC Loy Brydon 13 NY Jim Arender 14 Ernest Lynn Pyland 15 NC Merrill L Shepard 16 MA Edward F Strong 17 Ray Love 18 KY Michael Kremar 19 Jack Helms 20 NC Herry E Arter 21 MA Mark Schmidt 22 NC Gerald F Bourquin 23 PA William C Edge 24 PA Robert Spatola 25 NC Harold R Lewis 26 MA William G Jolly 27 Lee Ray K Smith 28 GA Elfers, William 29 KY Kirtley, Thomas 30 NY MacPherson, Allan 31 MA Straus, Bradford 32 Unziker, William J. 33 CA Hulick, Gerald W. 34 PA Bahor, Erick M. 35 KY Meyers, Lee A 36 OH Reed/Sherman Wilson 37 TX Duncan/Edmond C 38 NC Fortenberry, Richard T 39 NC Jorgensen, Keith C 40 NC Dunphry, Richard 41 NC Martin, Roy D 42 TX Jacks, Clyde E. I had about 50 Jumps with Clyde who had Gold Wings 1 or 2. 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Berg You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

Maybe because studies show that liberals are on average more intelligent than the opposing parties? Who's study? One performed by the Left? I prefer this study, it has more validity since its filled with truth; http://www.libertymind.com/index.php?page_id=257 You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

I don't know why you think the hybred makes a better accuracy canopy. I jumped a 230 Silhouette up until September '09 and went to the Spectre after a few demo jumps. It's much easier to get on target and doesn't have the final approach inconsistencies of the Silo. But for really tight areas I would choose "only" canopies designed specifically for accuracy, they're much safer for that kind of stuff. You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

Because libs are truly fair and balanced. you forgot the smiley OK, I put on the smiley, sort of You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

Because libs are truly fair and balanced. Yes! They are truly legends in their own minds You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

...and 83,119 were killed in the USA between 2004 and 2008 http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2008/data/table_07.html Between 2004 & 2008 is irrelevant. The animals have been on the warpath in Mexico only lately. This dysfunctional narco government is helpless as they're killing police, public officials as well as innocent victims. This cannot in any way be compared to the US where similar killings would have immediate and very severe full scale consequences for the offenders. You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

Great Movie. I had a flight school near where they were shooting and when I got there early one morning, my parking lot had 3 or 4 vehicles parked out front with swastikas on them. I guess they decided to use my lot as a staging area for the Nazi's. Anyway I let them keep the cars around back which they did for a couple of days. I also took Henry Gibson for a plane ride around Chicago. You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

Make other plans if you can. The others are right about the danger there. Under normal conditions its OK but the uncontrolled killings are now spreading to the tourist areas. You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

Mojo, Most of us who have spent any number of years in this sport have experienced the grief you are experiencing now. Loosing someone close to us in a jump related incident leaves all kinds of chaotic emotions. The first few weeks are a real bitch and say whatever they may about grief being a normal human emotion, I personally hate it. Its a very depressing time and there's always that feeling that you really won't get over it. Grief really does suck. Every jump we make has an element of danger, and this danger makes many of us think about what would happen to family members if we had an accident. My own Mother says she worries about me and dreads the though of that phone call, but I tell he to remember that I am doing what I loved to do, and if this sport takes me, please understand the years of enjoyment and the family of people I've met was well worth any risks. Blue Skies You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

Actually we tried that with a "cheepo" (28' 7TU for you round wuffo's) back in the 70's and it seemed to work quite well. You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

Has it been jumped nekked yet? No, Were waiting for you Jeff You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

We didn't jump above 9500 feet back then. It was 2 years later, in Nov '62 that I made a 60 second delay from a 182 at Doc Anagnostis Galveston Skydivers at Midway. Yeah, our normal jump altitude in those days was 7,200 at our DZ with a real occasional 12,500 but that was considered an event. We would all be great-full when the pilot would squeeze another 2 or 300 ft. Even the Gypsy Moths movie was limited to loads at 8,500. You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

PAC-750 1st load on brand new plane June 20, 2010 You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

TK, Right, but I hate the deception. But I'm a bit bias on this subject anyway. I have a claim in to BP which was submitted early (May 4) on a business I have in Mississippi. So far they have lied continuously and their shit in the media is misleading propaganda. You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100618/ap_on_go_co/us_gulf_oil_spill_slow_payments To watch TV for a few minutes or read the papers, you would think that they were actually doing something. But paying less than 12% of the claims submitted just proves they have about as much credibility as the US Government. You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

You'll get your pie at jump number 1000 and if you piss off the wrong people or your dog shits the peas you will get the punch much sooner Welcome You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

Thanks for posting. Though it may have appeared before I never read it. You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

Well, Lets get some people together and do it again. I'm game You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

I know a lot of pack rats. Its amazing since most don't even remember whats under all the shit. Its kind of fun to go through the stuff when they're gone. I had the pleasure of cleaning out 2 hangers full of airplane shit my Uncle accumulated. Uncovered all kinds of stuff that had been buried for many years. It was also quite profitable as I got big $$$ for some of it. Among the most memorable items were 6 brand new in the crate airplane engines from the 1930's. You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime