Farflung

Sounds like a……. “First Attempt To Taste Like Vanilla Ice Cream” …… again and again and again.

Smokin99 hotly identifies some more sloppy information with: “from ckret old post: The money was provided by Seafirst bank which is now Bank of America. The money had been earmarked for situations such as these and was always on hand. It had been photographed and serial numbers recorded by their security so the FBI did none of this. The money was then transported by SeaFirst bank security to a Seattle police detective who then drove it to the airport and handed over to NWA. The money was bundled in various counts so that no bundle was the same. Each bundle was secured by rubber band and different counts so that it appeared the money was hastily gathered.” Where was that headless corpse going? They usually spring from someone ‘just looking for the truth’ who is looking for a buck. What can I say smokin99 besides: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37KR8FW7YDo&feature=related Not since the iridium selling DC-7 pilot have we had such an undeserved attack of syphilis and Cooperrhea with the same host. I think it may have been cured with a quick dose of honesty and intelligence.

I guess this has more to do with being less sloppy with words and claims and ‘facts’ while searching for the truth. As all truthful people need to declare for some reason. Weird. I’ve asked for examples of why this or why that for different faith systems and have consistently been met with BS. Yes it’s that easy to see. So I will go ahead and let the data miners do as they will since this is ops normal. I’ve not seen anyone jump from STAIRS on any video anywhere, anytime. I’ve seen jumps from the rear compartment of a 727 but without any stairs. See the attachment for the difference between jumping from a 727 and jumping from the stairs. This would answer one of the previous inconsistencies where I questioned how Cooper would have Special Ops experience but didn’t know how to operate the aft stairs. This may (may here don’t get a tattoo yet) explain how Cooper knew Tina would not need to be lashed inside the fuselage but did not know how to operate the stairs since there weren’t any when he jumped previously (as a Special Ops Spy of Death). Now this can become some ore in the data mining cart and added to the BS list of reasons why Cooper was Special Ops because it NOW matches the pre-plotted conclusion.

This is why I try to follow the information and try to avoid data mining and confirmation bias. Well, at least I try anyway. This thread has the terminal habit of telling a person how to build a watch when asked what time it is. Everything is ponderously and poorly anticipated in a thinly veiled attempt at steering whoever or whatever towards a pre-selected conclusion. Now there are Special Black Ops jumping off aft stairs in Viet Nam even though there is no information to back this up. There is simply a klaxon call that this has been discussed already and is protected territory not to be inseminated with further discourse. Not sure which Page 4 was being quoted (PDF file or document reference) but there was the phrase ‘negotiable currency’ sans the American and on the PDF page 4 it says “$200,000” and the parachutes are “2 chest pack”. Here’s a refinement for page 9 (5 PDF), the T/C section is questioned as First Class where that is the old parlance for the cheap seats in “Tourist Class”. How about some behaviors that actually reflect a search for the truth with some source references and minimal interpretation with the answer? Speculation is fine when it is presented as speculation. The same way bologna is fine for a sandwich as long as it is not called ‘Miracle Meat’ with certain magical powers. After years of eating the stuff I can say that it didn’t grow an inch, so that makes the Miracle Meat company look stupid.

Why don’t facts seem to come with a little source attribution? Why are facts eaten from within because someone just made a simple mistake? After reading Bruce’s article with a conversation about how the money was handled I’m struck again with how some lore can grow. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKbADFJOCkU So a bunch of rubber bands were stretched across some various indexes on a board then buried in a backyard to measure durability I suppose. The fact that some money wasn’t tested in parallel in a similar fashion is vexing but expected. The rubber bands are then exhumed and precisely measured with a micrometer and viewed with a microscope to measure various properties. OK, I got it there was sciency stuff done to the rubber bands. Now for the not so sciency stuff. Where are pictures, drawings of, or plastic bottles containing some rubber bandy evidence? It says the rubber bands are a fact (‘known fact’ for this thread) but they seem to be like Sasquatch and UFO facts in that only a select few and self identified have seen them and they have already said too much. Now Brian is telling Bruce that the money was grabbed by the FBI and separated then put into envelopes without mention of the rubber bands or existing artifacts. Is this fact about the rubber bands in fact a statement from someone and nothing more? If there were three bundles which I assume (assume) were banded at least individually, there would be some rubber band ‘bones’ stuck between the stacks the FBI separated. I mean there are fragments of titanium being found in neckties but no chunks of rubber bands? Is this more ‘You know what I mean’ type stuff being slammed around like paratroopers jumping off aft stairs in Viet Nam?

377 there was a reason I asked about Tina’s experience viewing someone lashing a chute to their backs and it has a genesis from the late 70’s. Except this had to do with Shoe Clerks and what they thought an experienced crew should sound like. The story you are about to read is true. Some Psych or Sociology professor was engaged in a study on communications of some sort. For some reason he wanted to record cockpit conversations from various aircraft which were for the entire mission rather than the last half hour or whatever the civil recorders are capable of storing. This professor has laymen listen to the tapes to get their opinions on what they heard. Virtually every one said that one group was working better and smarter where the other came across as lazy or lost. Would you believe they got it dead wrong across the board? I can’t recall the exact ratio but it was something like 7:1 for words spoken from a new and struggling crew versus a crew with old heads. But people will vote for frenetic motion over substance in this situation. Here’s a dramatic recreation of an interaction: “Pilot turn the plane to the right to a heading of one hundred and sixty two degrees and reduce indicated airspeed from 420 knots presently flown to 360 knots and descend from twenty four thousand feet to eighteen thousand feet and then level off, over.” Versus… “Turn 162, slow 360, descend one eight thousand.” Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh……..Rog. Plus the former matches Hollywood’s version better and that’s what the people want. You know Scotty was going to pitch a fit about how much more the ’Dilithium’ crystals could take while Kirk kept insisting that she could take more, a lot more; then things began to shudder and quake while everyone held on with sweat running down their face. Ya know there may have been some undertones to that program that I’ve never noticed before.

OK 377 it’s time to define something or at least produce a matrix on the subject. About parachutes in general there are roughly two species which a person can use which are ‘Sport’ and ‘Emergency’ types. I say roughly since there are F-111, Cirrus, Mercury and Apollo systems which people used. When I wore the Emergency chute there were no reserves and no way to attach one from my weak recall. They were designed for high speed exit and designed with the assumption that the crewmember may be unconscious thus the round design and the 4-line mod you could do after you had your shit together. They truly are a marvel of design and function for one use. My understanding (I’m sure this is wrong) of sport jumping is that a reserve system is required which is packed and inspected by a licensed party on some schedule. So anytime I see a ‘Skydiver’ I should be looking at a person with two parachutes. It this true? I don’t see how an NB would be put on with some expectation of attaching a reserve system. Someone experienced would have balked I would think before grabbing the thing and trying to add the reserve. If the NB was Cossey’s sport chute how did he use it? Or was it just a jump pilot’s rig that Cossey used or owned? I don’t see a relationship between a sport jumper selecting the emergency chute then attaching a reserve. How many people did Tina see put on a chute? Dozens or was this her first time? Did the other chute have a way to attach those reserve systems? Was it finally settled as to who provided the chutes and what type they were? I don’t recall any resolution to that subject with Hayden.

Way to go hangdiver with checking out some Cooper stuff. Make sure the ‘OL’ is out there just meandering around and give her a stick to poke things with. That’s how Cooper is going to be found ya know, by someone poking things with a stick that doesn’t really care. The money find by Brian poking sand with a stick, gold discovery at Sutter’s Mill poking the tailrace with a stick and of course the tensile strength of three sixteenth, chain restraining a grizzly bear; yep poking with a stick. Just give raspberrymoon a stick and tell her to start poking under that flight path, we will know how things turn out by watching the news tonight. Good luck.

Naturally having such a large gathering of people will produce a plethora of ideas and theories but this is a wee bit too fanciful for prima facie consideration. So a person named Cooper selected a comic book featuring a character named Cooper therefore the alias of Cooper was selected by a person named Cooper who had an accomplice named Cooper? This certainly would qualify as criminal genius in that there is no such case study with similar attributes in the history of man. Yet the question about the source of McNally’s, McCoy’s and LaPoint’s alias is met with cricket chirps 100% of the time. Why the lack of confidence regarding these American born citizens? Am I the only person who has been to Quebec (pronounced: North Vermont)? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNalcAF6yyI No accents? There may not have been one as I wasn’t listening to a word she said but found the video to be utterly delightful. There sure are some linguistic differences then. I was working with a Canadian who asked me if I would like to go to Horny Tim’s and get some Beaver Tail. I was instantly in complete agreement with that suggestion and can assure you that it didn’t turn out as I had anticipated. No accent associated with Canadians is news to me and about thirty million Canadians. Just a little skepticism would sure go a long way and may prevent another Cooper comic showing up at Shemya.

I would agree that Geoff Gray deserves credit for crafting a dais of DB Cooper invitees where the full spectrum of all things Cooper were reviewed. I was surprised, in the best of ways to see that the company known as “Kick Ass Oregon History” was in attendance. I would like to see their contribution since listening to their performance of what happened to DB Cooper was Fellini-esque in presentation while being Shelby Foote-ian in accuracy. OK, I’ll admit that those guys push every button I’ve got….. with one notable exception.

Well that’s flattering to know that some people enjoyed my stupid, little, multi-syllabic, disjointed non-diction prose at the symposium. It really is like intellectual heroin and makes me feel very happy or is that the Hindenburg in my pocket (down boy, DOWN!)? Thanks Hunkettes for forcing me to do something that I’m too shy to try……again…… and again. Vicki dressing like a nun is always an inspiration and smokin99 getting out of those Blevins induced BVDs; in favor of a little, French cut number in turquoise silk and buff colored lace only adds to the mystique. Gawd you chicks are hot. For Bruce to get on stage and pull this off is more of a feat than most can imagine. There must be a thousand ways to phuq up and around one and a half to do it right. I salute Bruce for the success and courage to face such a beast. I’m glad some people could have fun and a giggle while I continued to work on my Tina shrine and grill.

OK….. there wasn’t a video contest for the Cooper symposium but that didn’t stop me. After the Hunkettes encouraged my submission (something which I’m just fine with, by the way ladies) into the poetry contest I was ready to lower the bar some more. Not being content with simply eating turkey, I decided to make one also. http://youtu.be/JBZMG9KutPs I see that 377 placed a poem into to the hat and perhaps he will also throw down a video as well. As a sort of WHUFFO versus Jumper death match, except everyone will still be quite alive but guys like talking this way because we think chicks dig it.

Tomorrow’s Thanksgiving, today is folklore, Last year is history, like forty before. So stop what you’re doing, give your brain a long rest, Hear a tale of great daring, from the Pacific Northwest. He dressed all in black, with a long skinny tie, He looked just like anyone, a regular guy. He asked for a ticket, a twenty in hand, One way to Seattle, my first name is Dan. Off to the gate, he would blend with the crowd, Sit and have a few smokes, back then that was allowed. His eyes were quite dark, and filled up with hate, Northwest just announced, his flight would be late. It started to gust, began pouring rain, It would only get worse, for that three engine plane. Now chiseled in history, not some dark archive, Is a skydive of infamy, from Flight 305. He sat in the back, the very last row, He gave his instructions, and wouldn’t ya know. The Stewardess ignored them, this killed the whole plot, She thought he was flirting, because she was hot. He stood from his seat, took off his raincoat, Said to her flatly, you should read that note. All right sir she said, with an audible hiss, It said I’ve got a bomb, come sit next to me miss. He showed her his package, thoughts raced through her head, What are all those things, and why are they red? He said I’m in charge now, this is my last stand, Get four parachutes, and two hundred grand. She went to the galley, the note she would show, To another Attendant, named Tina Mucklow. She was blonde and soft spoken, and now a subplot, Cuz Tina is gorgeous, I mean smokin’ hot. She talked to the stranger, he said what to do, Now go to the front, and tell all the crew. Tina went to the cockpit, to see Captain Scott, I hope that I mentioned, that she’s scorching hot. Now land in Seattle, and pick up the chutes, Tina will get them, in her Go-Go boots. Then outside again, to pick up the money, This also was done, by 305’s honey. She brought him a drink, and lit up his smokes, He sipped at the bourbon, and took a few tokes. Now Tina was stuck, in the worst of nightmares, When he said, OK miss now open those stairs. She did as instructed, and did it just right, For the pilots could see, the small flashing light. They stared at each other, not one word was spoken, That light said it all, the aft stairs were open. Now Cooper just jumped, into the cold air, The first to have used, those little known stairs. Some blame it on Nam, or President Nixon, The answer’s much closer, with 305’s vixen. She turned down his money, when he offered some, Would soon join a convent, and be a hot nun. What can be learned, from this history and lore? Even with two hundred grand, some guys still….. just can’t score.

Yep, just when you thought the Dan Cooper comic book was dead and buried, this Cooper Zombie has managed to dig itself out of a shallow grave on Tena Bar and lope towards Portland in an uncoordinated, tweaky and spastic gait while emitting the stench of death. Or that’s just how people in the region normally walk, I’m not sure yet. http://www.katu.com/amnw/segments/134147058.html

Rather than deflect or insult others by claiming that they misunderstood me or simply deny in the face of overwhelming evidence I have decided to use a different approach; a mea culpa. For the longest time I have crafted some sort of weird and freaky fantasy about smokin99 and it was admittedly sick. Probably due to the subdued approach in posting styles I assumed smokin99 to be a female. The constant lack of seeking credit for various research activities (the left handed tie clasp) only fueled my fantasy about some kitten with a whip behind a keyboard persona. Well that and the fact that she made references to a husband only reinforced my prurient vision to a more twisted level. So now it’s time to come clean and admit that I had a much different picture in my mind as to smokin99 incarnate and have been thoroughly disabused of any such notion by RobertMBlevins and his usual insightful perspective, analysis and unavoidably damning conclusions. I’m glad I found this out before smokin99 and I ‘may’ have somehow ended up together on a canoe trip in Georgia, a tent on a cattle drive in Wyoming or a hovel in rural Nebraska. I’ll admit this is was simply too close and on the precipice of a very slippery slope from which there is no return. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8CDERzun4k

Thanks to RobertMBlevins’ well focused research, investigative skills and abilities to glean information from whence I can’t find any data; I must confess another weakness on my part. I had NO idea that smokin99 was a BASE jumper and therefore have some latent Airstream owning tendencies in that I had pictured smokin99 as a genial, sweet, intelligent woman with a leather peak cap in her closet right next to a whip. Now I kinda feel creepy since RobertMBLevins has exposed smokin99 as a BASE jumping many, man with hairy arms and no toupee. I think I need another shower; but the type with a fixed stare and curled in the fetal position for hours and hours.

Well, well, well….. good catch Vicki. It’s a rare moment when actual intentions are exposed to the bright white light of righteousness. I was totally convinced that everyone was just seeking the truth and not using that statement as a foil (code for headless corpse) to cover some colossal wet dream about acquiring fame, fortune and hunkyness. I found the immediate killing and attenuation of other suspects WHILE amplifying a favorite under the guise of ‘aww shucky darn, I’m the victim here and wish I could get on with life if not for my noble cause’ stuff to be genuine, intelligent and admirable. I hope it continues in an even more frenzied and near uncontrolled pace. Like misquoting the McCoy trial, having Captain Scott speak to Cooper, a suspect with a Forrest Gump-esque presence in every possible scenario, declaring DNA too degraded, fingerprints too mixed, Tina too unreliable, Airstreams too heterosexual, FBI too unresponsive, History Channel execs too irreproachable, scorned wives too honest, living witnesses too accurate, dead ones too bad, hairy arms too Sasquatch-y, Roswell Aliens too freaky and leave the thinking two them. Ugh! Competition is best left between opposing teams with like skills, level playing fields and officiating. The best competition in commerce is by focusing on your customer base and delighting them with a product. I don’t think McDonalds is competing with Ruth’s Chris Steak House any more than Kenny could be competing with Duane, it is a silly concept. Besides everyone already knows full well Shirley MacLaine is behind all this obfuscation since she is the only one with the resources to hire and train so many people to act like Norman Bates except weirder.

I guess I just don’t comprehend so good and my sintax is death. It’s clear that you NEVER said any such thing.

Attached is an article from the trial involving Karen Burns McCoy (aka ‘A Headless Corpse’) where the reason for pulling the book appears to have nothing to do with McCoy being in the Beehive State for turkey and that cranberry sauce that is served in a cylindrical form with the ribs from the can still visible. Nope. Looks like the lion’s share of the settlement came from a lawyer who Karen McCoy had intended to write a book with and was scorned, deceived and betrayed. Well played Attorney Taylor crossing a woman who was hip deep in a crime for money without regard for her husband or children. Hard to believe that one came home to roost, I mean all the women I’ve violated have simply forgotten the transgressions and gone on to lead happy and revenge free lives. Bit of bad luck in this case.

RobertMBlevins sez: “One big difference between those people you listed and Cooper: Cooper was not caught.” That was PRECISELY the point Captain Obvious. The very fact that Cooper wasn’t caught (source???) is why the Cooper Guano Factory Outlet Stores are open extended hours. Those five goobers don’t exactly represent the super stealthy, skilled and omnipotent criminal which Cooper has become. Now Cooper can read comic books on Shemya years before publication, talk to Captain Scott and escape from the aft stairs on a magic Unicorn. I realize the average Unicorn is supposed to be magic but Cooper’s Unicorn was extra super magic. Cooper was heard on VHF ground comms from 30 miles away, flares were seen, jets flew menacingly low over terrified citizens who would be re-menaced by Men In Black, pressure bumps reached twenty atmospheres in intensity, food was splattered on the walls and ceiling, welders skydived to remote pipelines, lives were threatened who knew too much, there were failed CIA experiments where ants were crossbred with men in an attempt to produce ‘mants’ which would spy on people’s sink cabinets and toilet bases, Sirhan Sirhan supplied Cooper’s tie, his eyes were of an unknown type of color, he was polite and rude (polude), Tina’s mind was controlled, the jet was several thousand miles off course, Cooper stayed on the plane, Cooper never existed, Chuck Norris is Cooper, blah, blah, blah. Yep, Cooper was never caught so any and all of this can be true. How did LaPoint select his nom de crime? No way anyone is wasting effort on that because he was caught and they could be wrong. It is better to stick with an unknown and just make stuff up as you go. Captain Scott walked down the cabin scanning the passengers as if looking for a friend……..

So now there is a ‘professorial’ opinion that Cooper had an M.O. of escalating crimes sparked because his mother forgot his twelfth birthday, upon which he spent the day crying in her closet and plotting revenge against an airline. Oh brother. So what about some of these other ‘head cases’ that did similar acts but made the unique error of getting caught? Any worthy intelligence associated with these crimes? Richard McCoy, prior criminal activity? That’s right, he didn’t have one. Unless you consider teaching Sunday school a crime, where a boy is forced to wear a clip-on, bow tie and memorize versus verbatim or be put across the lap of Sister Beverly and spanked till he walked in a stooped gait for the next ten minutes. Robb Heady, prior criminal history? Nope. Just a parking lot attendant that couldn’t see any change to his station in life and spent days parking cars for people to squander money in casinos. Money that he could make better use of. Charles LaPoint, prior criminal history? YES!!!!! (boner time!) He was a car thief with a well known background among the police and sheriff from where he previously lived. His vocation (during the crime) was selling magazine subscriptions over the phone. Billy Eugene Hurst, prior criminal history? Unless you consider multiple stints in a laughing academy a crime, then Billy Boy was not a super tanker of malfeasance, but he was a little dinghy. Martin McNally, prior criminal history? No…. ummm… Yes… arghhh… sort of. Well Martin was hijacking a plane (his first) and minding his own business when a fast thinking drunk from a local bar jumped into action after watching news coverage on the TV (where Americans get all their education). The drunk took his Cadillac Eldorado to ramming speed and crashed the airport gates and slammed into the 727’s main gear thus grounding the plane. As a result, Martin had to hijack a second plane, therefore making him a serial hi-jacker with a brief criminal past (several minutes). There are five bozos with their backgrounds which can then be ignored while acting like Cooper must have had or didn’t have a criminal background of increasing crimes. Oddly, most of these characters simply appear to be desperate with a narrow view of alternative solutions to the problems in their lives. Just like a Cooper researcher who fabricates data out of whole cloth or suppresses data in order to advance some theory, book or whatever. Either way, I hope everyone enjoys ignoring this information.

There is no use in asking because they always deflect, minimize and deny, deny, deny. I wonder why someone is soooooo sensitive about how a word is used…. ummm… like 5 months ago…. and then it becomes OK and encouraged all of a sudden today. Well, I could behave that way; but then I would be that word where the utterance is viewed worse than the behavior. Oh well. I’ll just say classy instead.

georger succinctly and accurately states: “Maybe Im missing something.” Ummm…. yeah georger…. You missed the part about Melvin facing 25 years in a Federal Pound You In The Ass Prison. You know, the types where there is no parole and you get Pounded In The Ass. Yep georger, most men would view that as a downer, a minus or something that would not be sought. Mel was 40 something looking at being in his late 60’s by the time he got out and getting Pounded In The Ass for 25 years. Think his previous stints were that long? I’m guessing (monkey guess here) NO. Starting to get a clue yet? How about a raging clue? http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/155280/raging-clues Check the prints, compare the DNA that Vicki’s brother ALREADY has on file and put this to rest or talk about pressure bumps sans any data, experience or protocol along with chasing down some titanium artifact recovered from a Salvation Army tie. Gee which would be the most logical and conclusive? I know, ignoring those reserve lines that Cooper definitely grasped to cut from the reserve and debate how many Coopers can be ejected by an average pressure bump.

“Vicki wrote: ‘What if they just look at the prints?’ 377 responds: Easy. They should do it.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgOlgWaFh8Q&feature=related A rare moment of clarity………………… thanks Vicki and 377.

Mel Wilson was and is running from a Federal warrant for counterfeiting. Why would he want a car with that messy paper trail with titles, registration and identification being tossed around? That’s how they traced Janet Leigh in ‘Psycho’ ya know. You gotta think like a crook. Well I am not a crook…… but would likely try to score some fake ID (assuming that isn’t already part of every Junior Bad Guy’s larceny kit) then get a fist full of Greyhound or Amtrak. Ride like a Gypsy to Union Station then walk to a flop house and craft a plan. It’s clean, light and simple but by god, it….. just…. might….. work. After visiting a Goodwill store for some slightly used business attire and a hardware store for some wire and flares, I would be ready to take a bus to the airport and make the rest history. McCoy landed within 4 miles of his house in Utah but screwed the pooch on getting home. No Walkie-talkies used or ever suggested here which is odd since they actually would have worked. No payphone call because McCoy was worried about someone else answering the phone at home (nice planning there Richard). No car at the SLC airport either (case study). Out of curiosity, who did leave a car at an airport? LaPoint, Heady, McNally, Hurst? Bueller……. Bueller?