Farflung

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Case in point 377. Hominid is a world class BS-er to try and fly a 20 atmosphere pressurization system off on this thread. He thinks that everyone is as shallow as georger and just as technically inept. Notice the silence from the Glimmer Twins? Shame on them BOTH! SHAME!!! Do these senior citizens with marginal control of their bowels know the depths of their depravity? Clearly the answer is no and they don’t care to learn.

You’re right again 377, Vicki KNOWS that I’m awesome to a level that does not require the fabrication of a 20 atmosphere pressurizations system or some senior citizen sidekick that spends his free time ‘gassing’ Hometown Buffets. She’s cool like that. I win. Go ahead georger, use all your power and intellect to try and garner the attentions of fair Vicki. You probably don’t have the ball. But I could see how she may be attracted to your persona since you must while away the days just laughing and laughing and being ever so lighthearted. You are a great catch for more than just your ‘fanboi’ Hominid! Stay classy georger!

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Why is Hominid ‘thanking’ you for the invitation georger? Why did he say you gave him a pet name (kinda Brokeback Mountainy here)? Is that some weird and freaky code for ‘tossing salads’ in Iowa? Why aren’t you upset with Hominid for making YOU look like a BS-er? I simply displayed the source of my opinion that you invited him to this forum and had a multi-paragraph welcome post that you have NEVER had for anyone else before (nothing gay intended here). Why all the anger? You are so honorable and honest and true and consistent. Gosh, I guess I just can’t get anything right. You got me good georger, everyone thinks you’re the hunky one now.

georger will respond with his typical: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ff6ySJf_20&feature=related The Amazing Farflungini, has spoken!

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/155280/raging-clues No, they aren’t boys because they are old as dirt. Two old codgers who think they can use the internet to mask their acts of ‘forbidden love’ while assuming no one has a clue. Are there any ‘Hardly Boys’ who would be willing to help a younger whippersnapper with some calculating? Nothing too scary, just the stuff you can do with an abacus. No need for any of those store bought electronic counting books here. Is this coming across as folksy or douchey? I’m fearin the latter may have become obvious.

georger continues his ham-handed deception with: “You do realise the pressure issues have not been resolved - I sit and wait for some genius to do it - Far-a-flung .... and No, I did not bring Hominid here? (How would I and when?)” And they won’t be resolved by a person who has been exposed as some self proclaimed expert who is another Walter Mitty. You have seen the evidence which was sourced. Something you and Hominid appear to have a crippling allergy towards. You just want some hiney kissing and have no standards as to the source of that activity. Attached are the communication which gave me a clue, even a raging clue that you may have invited Hominid to this site, gave him a screen name and other things that I’m sure the two of you would like to keep ‘buried’ between each other. Till after a nap then you will want to bury that clue again. Hope this helps georger, an anxious nation awaits your pure and honest work to continue.

Probably the most ‘primitive form’ of living is associated with those who are devoid of anything resembling a moral compass to guide them through life. It’s amazing how people can be deep into a sixth decade of life and have absolutely no appreciation for sincerity, honesty or humanity. These are the type who fabricate from whole cloth their realities and then attempt to propagate these false idols upon others under the guise of being ‘folksy’. Kinda surprising that you aren’t aware of this already. Oh well, you know how they say the best way to cure cancer is through early detection? I have no idea why I asked that question. Well looks like it’s about time for ‘ol Farfy to scare up some vittles cause I’s gots a powerful hunger. Kinda primitive of me, isn’t it?

The Wright brothers once gazed up in the sky and observed gulls flying and said to themselves, why can’t I do that? Another man’s desire to emulate behaviors of animals has not been quenched by the passage of time. No, in fact Hominid had the exact same experience with observing animals and pledging to himself that one day he would possess a similar ability. He was a true pioneer and experienced a great deal of failure along the way. One design led to another and just when he thought there was a solution in sight, the acrid winds of war began to blow. Invasion forces now occupied places that were once free and Hominid volunteered his services. Training was rough and he felt the envelope was being pushed too far when he was in a formation of ten. His legs quivered and his thighs flexed nervously with the knowledge that he was at the very limits of his abilities and endurance when he crashed. No blame was assigned but Hominid knew who was responsible. This career ending mishap returned Hominid to the streets of civil life where he continued to perfect his craft. Never far from his seat, Hominid continued to imagine and create until the time was right to release all his knowledge on an unsuspecting group in a violent, abrasive and self important storm of data he could barely contain any longer.

I realize there are certain mysteries which will never be solved like the Pyramids of Giza, the statuary of Easter Island and the utter destruction and havoc wreaked upon the restrooms in Hometown Buffets on ‘Senior’s day.’ At least one of these mysteries could be mitigated through pressurization. I don’t know what the deal is with this secret club or the part of the olfactory organ that atrophies when people transition from living to fermenting. But I suspect it accompanies impotence which triggers the ‘brag gene’ to grow and seek relevance in some delusional fantasy of past importance which never was. As stated earlier, this remains a mystery and I have no fantasies of solving the thing just making it more tolerable. If polio can be eliminated and civil rights passed then harnessing the daily atrocities committed in Hometown Buffets across the nation should be simple. We’ve all seen the procession of Zombies and piles of dusty meat wearing a shirt outside the door of a Hometown Buffet twenty minutes before they open. Closer examination reveals that they aren’t Zombies or dusty piles of meat but customers anxiously waiting for the ‘Senior’s Special’ to begin that runs a marathon four hours. This is an event where the goal is to bankrupt the enterprise while exacting a slow torture on the employees and scant number of younger patrons who will NEVER return. Sure seniors have buffet specials, store discounts even segregated housing they demand where the rest of us can’t discriminate based on age. But do they demand senior restrooms? By a margin of 100% they don’t and the reason is patently obvious; they know exactly what there’re doing and think it’s hilarious. I’ve tried to simulate the atmosphere but the closest I came involved throwing half a dozen skunks into a concrete mixer filled with over ripened durian on an August afternoon in Houston. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZp9UsHv-i0&feature=related What better place to create a negative pressure environment Hominid? Make these ‘destinations’ the sucking portals to hell that they already represent into a less offensive version. I don’t care what Hominid is doing in there and your welcome to stay for hours as appears to be the habit anyway. This simply allows those who are on a lunch break (and alive) the ability to wash up without becoming temporarily bulimic, then spending the rest of the day praying for the arrival of sweet death over the fire made from burning the clothes worn in the restroom. What sort of power would be required? Three phase? What size motor would produce an acceptable vacuum? Of course the need for separated redundancy and an un-interrupted power supply should be obvious and more reliable than that required for a heart/lung machine. After all, it’s not like the guys on the machines are awake or anything, let’s try and consider the living for a change. This should be enough of a thumbnail to get the ‘Hominid pressurization team’ to knock out a design and create some cost estimates. Don’t worry, the younger crowd will gladly fund the entire venture. Good luck and thanks for being so humble and helpful!

Strange, you said georger invited you to the forum. Your knowledge of the stairs appears to be just a porous. Having a tough time telling which reality you’re typing about at such an advanced age? Yet you know which light was illuminated at the Flight Engineers panel and won’t share that information (there are two). You like to ask ‘leading’ questions and steer people to your pre-plotted answer. So fresh, so new.

Oh, I see…… so everything you posted earlier was just a bunch of guessing and speculation from stall 2 at the Hometown Buffet. Sure smelled that way and you know what I mean don’t you? Gosh, you were so cock sure of yourself with all your ‘big knob talk’ where you knew everything. Now I see a great deal of backpedalling from what YOU said was an absolute. Buying data from ‘garage sales’ sure compares with FREE info from people that actually worked with those systems for years and were willing to share that information. Sure would take a class ‘A’ loser to toss all that experience away because his ‘Yard Sale’ data didn’t agree with all his reading. I’ll alert the media that Hominid is on the job.

My father told me (over and over and over) that the ONLY time a senior citizen uses the ‘Senior Citizen Age Card’ in order to get respect is because they are and have ALWAYS been JERKS. Some old people get through life being treated with respect the same as younger (less deserving??) people and make all the transitions seamlessly. This is due to their conduct and interactions with society regardless of chronological age. Otherwise Charles Manson would qualify except Hominid would kiss that butt because he is older. Way to go Hominid, stay classy. Why Hominid feels his age gives license to abhorrent and disgusting conduct is beyond me and I will never give quarter to such a suggestion. Robert99 may or may not be older because it has never been an issue. Robert99 occupies a rare seat (one I can’t obtain for good reason) on the DBC thread for consistent and thoughtful analysis. His participation is numerically less in the number of total comments but contain the density of iridium compared to anything I’ve penned in 700 wasted moments of time. Shame on Hominid for using such a flaccid ‘sympathy card’ in an attempt to bait a response from Vicki in some sort of freaky and weird guilt trip for his own sick and perverse pleasure which will result in the same empty feeling he has known for so long. Does advanced age offer knowledge of the final depths to depravity? For Hominid the two are indistinguishable and intertwined in a dirty tango which is performed before an empty audience. He deflects and minimizes his arrogant behaviors while amplifying non sequitur medical conditions and age without knowing the same about me or anyone else. Nor does he bother to ask. Truly the definition of narcissism.

7) Impotent 8) Incontinent 9) Insecure 10) Impolite

Presumably if a person has access to the internet they have a…. wait for it….. little longer…… computer! With a computer (assume PC here) you (or anyone) can go to the ‘start’ icon, then to ‘all programs’, then select ‘accessories’ and you will find a calculator!! Hey that’s great!!! Or…… Go on the interwebs and search the word umm….. wait for it…. little longer…. CALCULATOR. Then do your calcs and publish the results rather than attempt what many may view as a thinly veiled manipulation. If you are a so called ‘Geek’ you sure don’t know much about technology either. You’re welcome for the two (2) sources of a three function (cheapy?) calculator and all the wonders which no doubt will be divined.

I’ve read the transcripts and searched for something that would indicate some level of aviation experience acquired beyond that of a barstool conversation or some Walter Mitty in a slow death, desk job reading some romance novel about a pilot named Max Guano. I have not found any such evidence. That’s not to say there isn’t some but what has been offered always leads back to the back of a male bovine for some reason. It’s hard to cover all your tracks since the parlance becomes second nature to someone in the ‘biz’. I used the word TACAN and was identified with military aviation. That is a perfect example of such a ‘tell’. The same holds true when one of these Walter Mittys are bragging about their experience when no one has even asked about their desired subject. I passed on some information to Hominid that included some standard airline jargon as a way to speed up the ‘open and honest’ exchange of data. Hominid responded that he couldn’t understand ‘gibberish’. Strike ONE Mr Mitty. Clearly a person has limited knowledge and likely zero practical experience needs a more simplistic and detailed explanation. This involved moving the handle to the DOWN position (I know so confusing) and calling the Flight Engineer to run up some pressure to create a positive differential and break whatever aerodynamic seal may (may here again) have kept the stairs retracted. This sparks rage in the heart of the BS-er, don’t worry as that’s their ONLY tactic. It always is with cowards. Then comes the techno-babble about running it to 20 atmospheres which isn’t a possibility in any airframe on the planet. Strike TWO Walter Wannabe. Now that Hominid is exposed as a person with extremely limited (fictitious/fantasy) knowledge and a boundless desire to speak with authority; here comes the Hail Mary of all internet bullies with a ‘Mr Green Special’ where his last missive was an attempt at humor (pulllleeease). Here is yet another area Walter Mitty types fail because along with being utterly devoid of any relevant knowledge, they are just as deficit in the arena of humor. Strike THREE Hominid. The stairs were an obstacle and nothing more, as Jerry Thomas succinctly opined. Cooper demanded that Tina stay in the back with him to assist with the stairs as recorded in the transcripts. No need for any revisionist history here unless fantasy is the goal. In a matter of months a Parking Lot Attendant, University Student, Magazine Salesman and Gas Station Attendant managed to open 727 and DC-9 stairs and bail. These should be case studies with equally exotic analysis to use in forecasting or reverse engineering but are constantly ignored since the data is too easy to verify and presumably those interested in fiction avoid such exercises like the plague. System B hydraulics indeed.

Now this pressurization subject is taking on new capabilities which have never before existed. I guess this would be a fitting subject since about zero percent on this thread must have a clue about the stuff and others are more than willing to exploit that condition. This reflects poorly on the ‘authors’ not the receivers. If you’ve seen those old photos of manly men from WWII flying bomber missions you will notice that they have some rather thick fashions. The weapons actually stuck out of open windows because the planes were not pressurized and were a painfully cold operating environment. That’s also why they wore the oxygen masks. Pressurization roughly preserves the environment most experience in day to day life (living at or below 1000 feet MSL). When an aircraft is pressurized you don’t have to wear an oxygen mask and can heat the air effectively thus making for more comfort. The principle is simple enough, compressed air is fed into a vessel which has a slow and adjustable leak. This facilitates cabin altitude and some air exchange. So far this seems simple right? Well that’s because it is. Now for some airplane stuff. The average airliner will pressurize around five to eight thousand feet typically. There are exceptions like landing in La Paz, Bolivia which is over 13,000 feet field elevation. Imagine having the cabin pressurized at 5,000 feet and landing in that configuration. The pressurization simply could not keep up and the masks would deploy when the engines could no longer compensate for the pressure loss. Obviously you would pull the O2 breaker and depressurize much higher than normal. Obviously. Pressure is measured by atmospheres or PSI (pounds per square inch). Most people are experiencing around one atmosphere (14.7 lbs). To feel the effects of two atmospheres you would have to dive to around 33 feet in the ocean and 666 feet if you wanted to experience 20 atmospheres and die. To go from one atmosphere to zero you would need to go to space. That’s simple also, isn’t it? Obviously an airplane only cares about maintaining pressure of some value below one atmosphere from another value less than one atmosphere. In short, there is no pressurization system which will need to pressurize to a value of one atmosphere (14.7 lbs). This will give you a baseline to consider when measuring the value of information. Let’s learn some more about this Black Art, I know it’s been six arduous paragraphs and reading isn’t like texting and your brain is sore. So just stop here and take a nap. A maximum altitude of 50,000 is a good design limit for two sound reasons. One, most aircraft are not capable of reaching that altitude. Two, this is the altitude where liquids boil at body temperature (like your blood). Since most aircraft fly well below this and most don’t want a decompression to be a fatal event, 50,000 feet (1.7 lbs) is the top. Now for some horribly scary maths which so frighten most that they would prefer to tremble while sitting in their own puddle of yellow. This isn’t that tough. Most aircraft pressurize to 5-8 thousand feet which would be 12.3 lbs which is 10.6 lbs from the pressure at 50,000 feet. So your system would need to supply 10.6 PSI of pressure at 50,000 feet altitude in order to make the cabin ‘feel’ like 5,000 feet. Annnnnnd exhale. See this really is simple stuff. Here’s a ‘real world’ example of a system from a SAAB 340 (see attach). I dig knobs and buttons because they comfort me with all their knurled manliness and 3-D-ness. That’s what one of these Voodoo pressurization panels looks like. I know, yawwwn. I hope one can notice the advisory printed between the Cabin Alt and Cabin Rate (Alt and VVI in miniature) gauges which says, ‘DIFF PRESS MAX 7.5 PSI.’ This is a secret code which means the maximum pressure differential available is 7.5 lbs. It’s OK, I’m fluent in speaking ‘Steam Guage-ese’ and don’t speak but recognize BS in many, many forms. Look at the graph on the lower left, I said look at it. Find the pressure for 5,000 feet (OK here- 12.2 lbs) and subtract that number from the pressurization panel maximum (7.5 lbs) and you should have 4.7 lbs as a result. Now compare the 4.7 lbs in the column for absolute pressure and the closest value is 4.4 lbs which correlates to an altitude of 30,000 feet. My goodness this research sure builds a powerful thirst, take a break and have a beer or a mug of waste oil if you’re man enough. Wanna ‘guess’ what the service ceiling is for a SAAB 340? Ahhhh you got me because you’re so smart. That’s right, the engineers designed the pressurization system to match the capabilities of the aircraft, which was to provide about one-half of an atmosphere differential to maintain pressurization. Not 20. Too bad how Walter Mittys, Harvey Milquetoasts and Percy Dovetonsils are always willing to believe their own garbage, then post it here. Well now you know what some limitations are for pressurization systems and can decide for yourself. If someone claims that the Boeing 727 could produce 20 atmospheres then you also know that data point probably came from the first person to drive four Clydesdales abreast.

In order for Cooper to pull off his caper there was a school of thought that these stairs were complex to operate so it would take a Boeing engineer or Black Ops veteran to operate the things. It has an UP and a DOWN and that’s as technical as it needed to get. There were no sources for the aft stairs so like all lore it grew legs and a third nipple and became more and more and more complex until just recently when 377 posted the schematic of the things. UP and DOWN and gravity assist down. Period. Nope. Now the stairs are a danger to open in flight even though the transcripts show there was no such concern. Only about leaving them down for takeoff and landing. I believe (believe that is) that 305 was the only plane to land with the stairs down. The dozen copy cats to follow had none of the troubles Cooper did and one was from a DC-9. The resistance is from the pre-plotted desire that Cooper had to be aviation savvy and all James Bondy because that’s what is wanted. If it turns out to be some Goober like LaPoint or McNally that will make people cry. No one wants Cooper to be a former magazine subscription salesman or gas station attendant. Notice how those case studies are soundly ignored by the illuminati?

Hominid states after asking for a source: “Statements of prior intent. Nothing at all about what really happened. Where was she when the got the lite?” Yep, just like everything else. It is however the source of how Tina was involved in opening the door and that was the initial issue. What ‘actually’ happened? I’m sensing the arrival of secret information which only one person is aware of with a lofty title. Will the Amazing Farflungini predict the future accurately yet again? Who does know the one true answer and is the gatekeeper of relevant information by self proclamation this time? I don’t know any of that stuff but I do know a leap of logic when I smell one. That’s all I got, seen this program already.

Hominid asks with scathing passive aggression: “Are you high right now? You can be honest. I doubt the cops are monitoring you while you're posting here. Or is that humor? Actually, I'm so good at figuring gibberish out that I think I know sorta what ya must be sayin. Maybe I can help. If Dan put the handle at DOWN, the whole thing about pressurizing in hopes of pushing the stairs down would be unnecessary. The most Dan woulda had to do is put his hands on the handrails and step out onto the stairs maybe three or four steps. Stairs woulda been down for him to use and woulda stayed just as far down all the way until the crew disobeyed his orders to get them back up, or until the plane tore up its rear landing probably around Red Bluff since the stairs hanging down the extra amount woulda made them burn more fuel. Yes, assume the handle is put to DOWN if you want the crew dead.” Am I high? Well if you call someone who loves America and freedom high; then the answer would be yes. I hope this knowledge assists you with your evening. I behave the same way in front of the police as I do in other places. No need for a second, secret life. You should try it Hominid, much less stress. If Dan put the handle to the down position then what’s all the hub-bub about? There is a school of thought that you needed to be an aeronautical engineer working at Boeing to operate those nasty old stairs. Then 377 posted some information and it is clear that anyone could open the stairs with the slightest experience. As you have just confirmed. No need for any more discussion on the subject. Dan did NOT know how to open the stairs and Tina DID know. Gee that was easy. There really is nothing to this stair subject after all. So sorry for causing the discourse, I’ve always been an advocate that these are not difficult things to operate.

Here’s a little more data pek771 so you can decide for yourself. Did she or didn’t she?

Hominid asks: “And why do you assume that "he" was Cooper?” A. The transmission is FROM Flight 305 not the controllers. B. Who else wanted the stairs down? C. There were three men in the cockpit and one made the transmission. I did not consider that one of the crew would want the stairs down and spontaneously level off before the prior demanded altitude by the guy holding the bomb. D. Context. We are going to level off here. Who is this ‘WE’ that is leveling off at 7,000 feet where ‘he’ wants the stairs down? With all that, I still gave a wild ass attribution of ‘assume’ as not to make things up out of whole cloth.