Farflung

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RnjWLVyMps Once again I have exceeded the bounds of generosity and cobbled an image of the suspect letter sent to a newspaper. I have included the ticket which Cooper was issued where his name is in fact Dan and not the widely published, and incorrect, DB. You will notice that whoever wrote the letter also spazzed out on the postage, with a pair of 6 cent stamps instead of the 8 cents required. I guess even a mastermind like Cooper can blow it and forget to buy some 2 cent, filler stamps. Looks like the system beat his silly ass that time. I excluded the letter where Cooper mentions the $200,000 is for revolution, as this is clearly a hoax since the ‘Real Cooper’ knew he only had $194,200. Who besides the most mentally infirm would have considered that legit? Pulllllease. I also included an image of the letter AND painstakingly transcribed the entire document like a Trappist Monk. That is if Trappist Monks were wicked cool and took a couple nuns to heaven and back on a daily basis, then that’s just how I did it. You can see the message isn’t that long, so sailshaw should be able to answer two questions about how he surmised a “black tie” is mentioned. If you would be so kind sailshaw as to explain either of the following: 1. Where in this letter is there mention of a tie? It could be ANY tie, like a bit of haberdashery, creosote soaked wood used in railroads, a pair of exact finishing times in a race, that device which holds a bread bag closed, that dude that co-starred with Randy Mantooth in ‘Emergency!’ or a citizen of Thailand. You see, I’m open to any type of tie, thus saving you from having to ask for some faux clarification, where it is obviously a stalling technique. How did you (sailshaw) extract a tie from the DB Cooper letter? Please explain your process or simply point out what must be a painfully obvious reference to a tie. I’m simply too dense and thick to see it. Many thanks in advance for your thoughtful, complete and kind answer. 2. Where is there any mention of the color black? This does not even have to be associated with the tie, even though YOU (sailshaw) said the letter referenced a black tie. I’m just too cool to make you do all that extra work, so I’m just asking for the reference to the color black. It could be the classic definition where black is represented by the amalgam of all the frequencies in the visible light spectrum or the total absence of the same. Or even Navy blue which is defined as ‘black in appearance’ will suffice. Again you can use anything which may not necessarily be in the color realm but something emotive like a black mood or perhaps racial as with black people. You see I’m looking for how you (sailshaw) found or interpreted ‘black’ out of this sixteen word letter. You (sailshaw) said that you only mentioned a black tie and did not (not that is) call it a clip-on. Well, you can be sure that I will make it my life’s mission that you (sailshaw) get full and constant credit for mentioning the ‘black tie’ in the Cooper letter, which is attached to this comment for all to see for themselves. Here’s where you (sailshaw) can demonstrate your objective, sincere, honest and genuine approach to this subject, which is a refreshing change from the usual techniques which involve: deception, fabrication, delusion, faux authority, confirmation bias, cold readings, conjuring, force of wills, douchebaggery, false statements, hearsay, lore, Satan’s frothy stool, denial, deflection, leaps of logic, time travel, the reversal of river courses, vanity, braggadocio, false witness, data mining, misrepresentation, data suppression, asshattery, assclownery, attention whoring, abject disdain for science and a couple things that might actually embarrass the average person. There you have it. I know that there’s no chance of a mea culpa being issued and penned with contrition or humility as that would make the planet implode. If I were a betting man, the next move will involve an explanation, or the brilliant technique where the subject goes all quiet for a while, then reappears assuming that everyone has forgotten their last faux pas. But then I’ve always been an all or nun kind of guy.

I searched high and low for some vehicle which would represent the irrational target fixation experienced by several ‘Walters’ on this thread (they DON’T know who they are). It’s so hard to put into words how a person appears while they stalk their Larry (Sheridan, Kenny) under the guise of seeking the truth, which was nothing more than a foil from the beginning. I think these three minutes may best encapsulate what has transpired in the last three years: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9taJL3vcoE If I’m wrong, God help us all.

I mean, for crying out loud, after making a ‘chick magnet’ graphic, with all the pertinent information, sailshaw still needed something which transcends spoon feeding and even something resembling a sort of gastric tube, which allows whatever to arrive in the stomach, while the recipient shows no more intelligence than a Zombie. Yet sailshaw remains baffled, in spite of my best effort, which hails far beyond anything sailshaw has ever contributed or offered to this thread (I’ll assume all others as well). You owe someone a measure of gratitude for taking time from making women glad they’re alive in spite of being married to someone like you sailshaw. You are a poor manipulator, and are angered for the simple reason that you were ‘called out’ for sucking at something the average person would find offensive and deny doing. Your attempt at steering some resources which would only facilitate (in YOUR view) the guilt of Sheridan is sleazy and unethical, while cast in the best of light. How dare you. Sad and tragic are words best reserved for those free of the nefarious intent you display; then deny to an audience which have been sorely underestimated for their ability to comprehend such a perfidy. Love your hat, have a nice day. See you next Tuesday.

Deny, Deflect and Minimize It looks like sailshaw is using the rarefied technique of selective recall. Where ‘sailshaw’ NOW says it was only a black tie, sailshaw said I (Farflung, of sound mind and awesome body) was the one to make it a ‘clip on’. Oh really sailshaw? Let’s review with YOUR WORDS, shall we? I will now quote from the book of sailshaw where it was written on 25 August 2012 at 7:06 AM: “I (sailshaw) would add the black tie to the list….. AS FOUND IN DB COOPER DECODED.” I have attached a graphic, which holds an eerie similarity to the previous one which illustrates just what was being communicated AND BY WHOM. ATTENTION sailshaw: The tie as found in DB Cooper Decoded IS listed as a CLIP ON. Do you see sailshaw? You are the one who quoted it (poorly) and then ignored some more push-back rather than review YOUR actions…… again…….today.

A-B-C-D-E-F-G…… H-I-J-K…. lmn-oh-pee Q-R-S T-U-V Cooper’s black clip-on tie, left behind on the plane and known before the public X-Y-Z Now I know my DBCs, I can write conspiracies.

Looks like another contestant has decided to bet big and bet it all. Well that’s what makes life exciting and entertaining. While anything is possible as my statistics professor would say, don’t bet on the sun NOT coming up tomorrow. Little did I know how many people did just that on a daily basis. The irony is lost on these personality types who think when the Mayan death year has passed, they will still be viewed as a credible and balanced person. So I guess a review of this ‘Playboy letter’ is long overdue. According to someone’s analysis, a letter was sent to an Oregon newspaper which was crafted from several Playboy magazines. The evidence offered to support this theory is compelling and plausible. Has anyone thrown down $5 to obtain a copy of these magazines and verify the articles and advertisements inside? That’s a terribly low cost barrier to validation and I will surmise the answer to be a resounding NO. No one has gone so far as to validate what the mystery person has claimed and just accepted what he says on faith. I would consider this poor form, but on the DBC thread have learned to anticipate such folly. Moving on, the person who connected the Playboy magazines to the Cooper letter generously went on to decode and decipher, precisely what Cooper was communicating to the newspaper. Of course this is where things become hazy, convoluted and ultimately knocks the wheels off the wagon before it can careen off a cliff. All of the ‘analysis’ follows the same pattern where some vague association is made which is then tied to another vague association which evolves into something relevant before being definitely tied to Cooper. It is the technique used by Psychics and they use it for one incontestable reason; it works. Just like juries, you only have to fool one of them in order to succeed. Attached is a graphic which illustrates what was offered, said, and then the final interpretation from that one person. You can see that the character ‘W’ is circled on the Cooper letter then on the article titled ‘Bow Brummell’ which is accompanied with an image of four bow ties, none of which are black. But the ‘W’ in the letter came from an article which has ties, and they are classic bow ties, and classic dress is a black tie affair, which is a black tie, and ties can be clip on, leaving a black, clip-on tie, which is exactly what DB Cooper left behind proving he wrote this letter and is taunting the FBI with his clip-on, black tie, which the FBI has in their evidence room, which they have overlooked even though this is all so obvious. Then sailshaw makes his comment “I would add the black tie to the list as found in DB Cooper decoded.” Where was this black tie found? Here is where the ‘mark’ becomes an active participant through the use of hearsay with ‘poetic license’. The character ‘W’ has now evolved into a black tie versus a letter cut from some article (presumably from the correct Playboy) which represents a tie after several assumptions. Armed with the above module of ‘information’ sailshaw then goes on to add to the lore by stating this clip on black tie as being published before the public was aware of it. Of course he leaves out that the message was so incomprehensible, that the public was unaware of this till 40 years later, when someone made the first connection, thus making this the worst message since the Mayan death calendar. Keep in mind that all the while, one MUST also begin with accepting this letter as Cooper’s. After some collective push-back on this subject, sailshaw is faced with a decision point. Review his position regarding the Cooper Playboy letter, or the far more travelled choice of claiming a conspiracy from a group who don’t know each other, while playing the role of martyr with a second degree case of butthurt.

You’re right MrShutter45, the name should be altered which embraces the collective experience on this thread. ‘Silence of the Scams’ would be a good counterpoise with lashings of irony since these scammers are anything but silent. Let’s face it, Hannibal was far more intelligent than anything associated with DB Cooper. I like the concept of using ‘National Treasure’ where little disjointed clues are deciphered just in time, but it lacks the texture that inhabitants on this thread have supplied. So I would combine it with a film that features a town, populated with detached and corrupt citizens, who are beholding to some criminal sexual sadist like ‘Blue Velvet’ and name it ‘National Blue Velvet’. It would dovetail nicely into the David Lynch genre where the dialog can drift from some red dwarf talking backwards about his gold mines and private aircraft, to some self important Major who thinks his years in the military is endlessly fascinating to talk about. Plus Lynch heavily used FBI agents in his ‘Twin Peaks’ series. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36_vlZha7bg Now I just need to find a way to tie all this together with the dignity associated with being a contestant on ‘Supermarket Sweep’ and this task will be complete. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO_tm-C7yfU

That ‘Decoded’ letter makes no mention of any ties. A single letter (the dub-ya) was cut from an article about bow ties which was then morphed into a black tie, then morphed into a clip-on tie, then offered as the only alternative to the tie Cooper wore, which was found on the plane. That’s a massive number of assumptions and leaps of logic to arrive at that conclusion. It would have been exponentially easier to say “The letters were constructed from a Playboy magazine, which features Bunnies wearing clip-on ties”. Instead a meandering and convoluted path, paved with broad sweeping assumptions was chosen to augment the author’s ‘Silence of the Lambs’ persona, where he had MrShutter45 trying to guess his identity while cooking up some fava beans. Who would engage in such behavior that is above the age of 22 and not a psychotic? But cold readings have entertained and fleeced millions of people who were waiting with bated breath, to be told what they wanted to hear. I wonder if there is some more clues which can be ‘Decoded’ from the ignored but famed Playboy letter. Playboy magazine was named after the Playboy automobile which featured a Continental engine typically used in aircraft. This was Cooper’s way of hinting that he hijacked an airplane. Playboy magazine also owned a DC-9 which featured an aft set of stairs which were used by hijackers. This was another of Cooper’s hints. This was unique to Playboy. Hefner has the same number of letters as Cooper. This no doubt, was the inspiration for his name selection. Mucklow has the same number of letters as Playboy. Clearly Cooper knew who he was going to hijack in advance. Placard has the same number of syllables and letters as Playboy. The emergency placard was thrown by Cooper as a clue that a letter would arrive, made from a Playboy magazine and literally fall into the laps of newspaper publishers. There simply is no denying this staggering implication. I will continue my brilliant decoding efforts…. Clarice, but you must tell me something first, quid pro quo….. What was Cooper doing in the lavatory for such a long time and alone? Could this have involved a Playboy magazine too Clarice? My fava beans are ready.

Just so you don’t think I’m making any of this up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0anaCNDvGo When it has entered the lexicon of pop-culture via ‘Family Guy’, denial becomes impossible.

PAX does in fact mean passenger smokin99. It’s not dumb, just jargon which is commonplace in the ‘biz’. Plus chicks dig it when a man gets all pilot-y and says: Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh welcome aboard Flight 305, non-stop Denver with a time of ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh one thirty-six with ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh winds light and unlimited visibility. We’ll push away once all the PAX are seated and ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh begin our engine start procedures. So sit back and be sure to ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh keep those belts low and tight ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh and if you need any extra assistance you can ahhhhhhhhhh call on ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Stay ahhhhhhhh cee or ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Tri ahhhhhhhh sha who will ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh be glad to ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh chooo excuse me ahhhhhhhh assist ahhhh have a nice flight.

Here’s the NTSB report about the prop strike: http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/brief.aspx?ev_id=41151&key=0# Little information, but it says he was partially deaf. The aircraft was a 1956 Cessna 182A (Skylane) with a registration of N5878B. The aircraft is still airworthy and in Yakama, WA: http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/N5878B.html

I guess I don’t understand this whole Amboy chute thing, because all roads lead to a dead end. If there was to ever be anything resembling a test protocol, analysis process or logic tree; the end users would be stuck going to the same point. The chute is silk? Yes or No If yes, THEN what? If no, THEN what? The material of the chute was identified by the rigger, and the rigger was Earl Cossey. So if the chute is Nylon, THEN have Cossey ID it? Bzzzzt…. He already looked at the thing and said it wasn’t Cooper’s chute. So what’s the next step? The chute is a Pioneer C26, constructed under military contract MIL STD O9857467XXXX and weighs 5.732487 pounds. THEN ask Cossey to ID it and hey says - it’s still NOT Cooper’s chute. The only options appear to be Cossey, who said it aint duh one. Or Hayden, who owns a Pioneer made in the late 50’s, which is not in alignment with being the sister chute to the Amboy artifact. With all the gnashing of venom dripping fangs and abject scorn for the FBI, I simply don’t see what could be benefitted by living with and feeding the Amboy chute, then putting it under an electron microscope. The source validation already ruled and said NO. Perhaps it would be better to try and lure Cossey to that flea bag ‘Motel Puyallup’ and give him the third degree, Indian burns and make him drink a Slushie very, very quickly. Oh, I’ll guarantee he’ll ID that chute then. Cuz that’s the only way any of this effort would change anything. What am I missing here?

I don’t see how with such little information, a person can be accused of being an accomplice to a hijacking, using an Airstream trailer (where there was no buttseks), yet with a manufacture date, stamp font and serial number on the Amboy chute - nothing is known. If Bernie can be condemned with such scant data, why can’t the same ‘super dicks’ figure out the provenance of that near perfect canopy? I’m so perplexed. OK, that last part was a lie. I checked some images of various parachute makers and found the serialization of the things to be pretty standard with six digits. That’s great, at least with a VIN you could ID the builder and plant with some options, no so with these chutes. But the stamped data had different fonts and formats (June 1944, Jun 3 1944, Jun 44, etc.). Could this be a clue? I have no idea, but did notice that one company used the same format and numbers (like the 1 having a serif and no foot) so I figured I would offer this to greater minds to ponder (code for the 99’s). Below is a list of parachute manufacturers, which I’m sure is woefully incomplete, from the 40’s. National Automotive Fibres Inc. Switlik Pioneer Parachute Co. Vanity Fair Reliance Co. Simmons Co. Atlantic Rayon Co. Hayes Manufacturing Co. Fashion Frocks Inc. of Cincinnati, Ohio Standard Parachute Corporation M. Steinthal and Company The company which had a stamp that closely matched the Amboy canopy was named ‘Vanity Fair’. So I thought I would prime the pump with this suggestion and see what is discovered. Compared to identifying Cooper this should be easy. Something tells me it is going to be a bitch.

You’re the self proclaimed expert on this subject RobertMBlevins and have repeatedly yelled upon the mountain top how the FBI has failed. Here are some points I noticed: 1. This report was published 25 March 2008. Within a week or two of the discovery. 2. KOMO is a Seattle station which should be viewed by people living in the area (code for RobertMBlevins) who were able to see the chute first. 3. Agent Carr is asking the public for help. 4. Agent Carr is open with the information, calling the chute ‘fragile to the touch’. I don’t see what the FBI did so poorly other than……. NOT issue a statement that it was obviously a parachute used by a former Northwest purser who was DB Cooper, and Tom Kaye is a smart guy, right or wrong. Additionally the FBI would like to declare the 25th of March, RobertMBlevins day, while simultaneously renaming the millennium ‘Blevins’, thus making today: August 22nd Blevins12. Am I missing anything here?

Here’s another perspective of this undamaged parachute which has been EXPOSED…. SHOCKINGLY AND FIRST by RobertMBlevins, author, five time winner of the Buckeye Newshawk Award and amateur expert on the decay of biodegradable fabrics stored in an anaerobic environment: http://www.komonews.com/news/local/17000841.html?tab=video&c=y Check the video at (1:20-1:30) and (1:38-1:48). Then decide for yourself. Once again, RobertMBlevins has expertly identified an FBI cover up. The nation maintains its nonplussed posture fully aware of the source.

Gosh how was that information handled that the Citizen Sleuth team had access to? Did they scan the documents and hang them on a web page? Take photographs of artifacts and publish them? Offer a portal for interested parties to participate via the miracle of the internet? Or…… Was it life imitating what it bitches and complains about with the entire team engaging in comms out procedures for…… years. That’s right, plural….. years. So what’s the beef exactly RobertMBlevins? The FBI behaved in a near identical way that the Citizen Sleuth team conducted themselves. Or is this too iconoclastic for a hopeless fanboi to recognize or even consider? Who hath gone without handling things poorly should cast the first press release. Did the Citizen Sleuths even have a parachute expert on the team? Nope, so what would be the point of involving them? Vanity and ego is all I can see. This was something that the FBI did as a courtesy/experiment for which they were richly punished. Think it’s ever going to happen again? Never. You have put them in the position of being damned if they do, and damned if they don’t; guess what every rational life form on this planet will choose when confronted with that situation? Surprise, surprise, surprise…….. they choose DON”T. Perhaps they don’t’ return your emails because you damn them anyway, and they can save a lot of grief by putting yours in the spam/crank folder.

Smokin99, This subject still gives me a headache because the simplest questions always took several iterations thanks to all the anticipation and deflection, rather than a spontaneous and sincere answer. Here’s the research Bruce Smith did on the two back-pack chutes: http://themountainnewswa.net/2011/10/25/db-cooper-case-heats-up-again-with-controversy-over-parachutes/ It seems so simple. Hayden purchased two similar, if not identical emergency aircrew parachutes for his aerobatic flights. Presumably the one Hayden displayed is the one which Cooper left behind which offered some slight clarifications. One being that these were NB-6 ‘type’ chutes and not military as previously published/thought. Sort of like what a Hummer was to a Humvee, I would imagine. Second was the era of manufacture. There is an image which clearly has a manufacture date of April 1957. Nothing close to the Amboy chute date of 1946. So if the Amboy chute was made out of silk, nylon or unicorn mane mattered not, since Cooper’s chute was presumably manufactured a decade later. But hope springs eternal with any error on anyone’s part because this still could be the ‘Golden Ticket’ to the chocolate factory. I gave up in abject disgust once it became obvious that the Amboy chute would not go quietly into the trivia heap.

Here’s an article published less than a week after the great Amboy discovery with all the pre-selected answers going at it. They are fully aware of the date on the chute and that it isn’t Coopers. No ambiguity there at all: http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Suspected-D-B-Cooper-parachute-may-actually-be-1268879.php What we have here is a couple of locals who are hell bent on making this parachute belong to Lt. Walling in spite of all the contrary evidence. Just like Dan Cooper comic books on Shemya or which way the Columbia flows in relation to Paradise Point Park. So utterly blinded by dogma, people can’t see what is patently obvious. So incredibly desperate to tie the chute to Walling that the date of 21 Feb 1946, stamped ON the parachute was, without source or evidence, surmised to be a repack date. Are you kidding me? What possible purpose would a repacking date stamped on a parachute, which is then packed into a container and sealed, possibly serve? Hey Lieutenant Walling, when is that chute due for a re-pack? Hold on while I pull the ripcord, then unravel the canopy, find the date stamped and I will know when it is due for a repack. OK, Lieutenant, that sounds good, I’ll wait over there next to that herd of unicorns while you check to see if your parachute needs repacking. Burroughs said it was possibly Walling’s but they weren’t doing anything with is since it is NOT Cooper’s. She was “shining them on”. Just like being soooo desperate to tie Kenny with a comic book on Shemya which would not be published for several years, these yokels were willing to suspend disbelief and declare a manufacture stamp, a re-pack date. Same silly behaviors by two different people who can’t see the error in their respective approaches, but oh so clearly see it in others. Bizarre.

Why not follow your own advice RobertMBlevins? The FBI hires smart people just like the Burke Museum. The FBI is a national police force which requires educational accomplishment, physical training and studies in law enforcement before getting to wear the badge of a Special Agent. Their investigations are far more complete and sound than any citizen collective of part time amateurs. You should just accept the analysis of the FBI just the way you want everyone to accept the flight path from the Citizen Sleuths, without any independent validation (look what came home to roost in less than 24 hours). Why is everything so incongruent with you? If the FBI said the parachute from Amboy is irrelevant, then so be it. The FBI is smart and strong. Why waste effort on something which has already been answered? Just accept what the smart FBI says whether they are right or wrong (poetic license, not an irrational ethos). The FBI are a smart group of people who I want to know more about rather than get bogged down with any of their data. I’m sure you know that is was a local author who published the Amboy chute being from an aircraft crashing during WWII and NOT the FBI. The smart FBI who are hired by the FBI because they don’t hire dummies, that’s for sure; said Cooper probably died with science and flasks with bubbling fluids. This is enough for anyone to know and they can move on to help by discovering the grave of DB Cooper who is dead. So please stay on the one true path which involves finding Cooper’s grave, where he died in 1971. There’s no need to question the FBI.

Wow, that was ‘poetic’ license regarding Tom Kaye? Poetry to a man? Well Ok then, now it all makes sense. You just go ahead and ‘respect’ Tom all you want RobertMBlevins. Not a lot of men would advertise how they write poetry to other men, and I’m one of them for the simple reason that I don’t and never will. But you go boy, and I hope Tom responds in kind, you two are perfect for each other. You’re right about the museum hiring smart people, same way Penn State hired smart people to guide and train men and young boys about ‘teamwork’ and life. It’s good to worship people who can then be elevated above others, I hope the tradition continues. Hey, did Tom Kaye, the man you ‘respect’ conduct an experiment where the money was tossed in the river while in a ….. wait for it….. little longer…… canvas bag? I mean putting a single bundle on a fishing line is sort of comical since there is NO evidence of a single bundle ever traveling anywhere. I guess you didn’t know that just like not knowing which way the Columbia flowed, Captain Scott talking to Cooper, the Dan Cooper comic not being published while Kenny was on Shemya, Jet A fuel freezing in Seattle and a jet engine vapor locking. Nope, the money was either in a canvas bank bag or in the group of bundles found by Brian. How exactly those bundles were oriented and bound is a mystery since Brian’s father tried to separate the bills on his kitchen table. Don’t know how Tom would know different, but you have played victim to far worse then denied it later. So what would happen to a canvas bag filled with cash being ‘wheel rolled’ in environments where rabid construction and low value materials were being processed by heavy equipment? I already know your answer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8E_zMLCRNg You might want to consider using some standard research techniques since the University of Buttlick doesn’t seem to work too well for you. But I know you won’t.

Warning: This post contains historical maps. I thought I would compare some historical maps around the Columbia River and V-23 for no other reason than to avoid violating Occam, in ways I dare not imagine. Oh goodness. Well it turns out there were (past tense) a couple islands near I-5 and under V-23 called Hayden and Tomahawk. Pretty much a couple sand bars with some trees and wildness just like ‘Deliverance’. Ooooh that sounds so dangerous. Then around 1970 some mens with big tools and equipments, began to build and construct on those two islands. Those big burley mens were digging, clawing and mercilessly pounding those islands with their huge equipments. I can only imagine what it must have been like. Oh dear. Then the mens took a nap for a while, then in 1978 they began their pounding and pounding, while building cute little homes for boats, so arrogant people who are full of themselves would have a place to live. That’s so sweet. My gracious what must it have been like with all that material being pushed and grabbed with those big sweaty mens, in their hard hats driving back and forth across those islands so much, that they became one (I feel faint). I wonder if there was any buried treasure. Gosh that just too weird to think about. Oh well.

RobertMBlevins bizarrely suggests: “Go to Tom Kaye’s website and use the flight path he supports. Right or wrong, he's a smart guy.” What would the point be in using an already established flight path when the creation of an INDEPENDENT model is being attempted? Is it to prove that with the same answer two people can arrive at the same answer? WTF? The second sentence is even more perplexing or disturbing. “Right or wrong, he’s a smart guy.” Where I would wholeheartedly support the notion that being correct is typically a parameter associated with intelligence, the part giving equal weight to being wrong is simply ‘Jumping The Shark’ intellectually. How can someone be wrong all the time and be considered smart? Oh, the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor, that’s the prose of a genius. The Earth being flat is another savant example. Because you can be wrong and somehow be smart…… ummmm….. nope. I think that statement was little more than some fanboi spreading a pair of butt cheeks, then taking a very public and painfully long lick.

One thing which will keep the flight simulation sane is the fact that it is removed and independent from the influences of this thread. Thank gawd. I’m talking about the firewalls put in place by Boeing, Microsoft and Mother Nature regarding the flight characteristics of a 727. No matter how often repeated, with associations to various phone conversations with alleged crewmembers, and the assorted bullshit which has polluted this subject for years, the plane will operate like one made on Earth. This is a damn fine thing too. Even with the input of all the self proclaimed professionals, this airframe will not be where they want it to be due to a force of will. Of course this will lead ‘them’ to modify their story with jet stream winds of several hundred knots to blow Cooper to their preselected location. This is the one constant I have found, bullshitters will keep bullshitting, till they arrive at the answer they already have. I’m 100% certain the winds will become the next hot topic, because the flight simulation simply will not provide what anyone needs to match their story. I’m a little surprised that there hasn’t been a request to enhance the simulation by placing a series of Airstream trailers along V-23. All in the interest of finding ‘the truth’ of course, because there were Airstream trailers in Washington and they should be represented, if anyone besides me cares about the truth, freedom and puppies. I predict that some people will learn that with flaps deployed (even at 2 degrees), the envelope of where 305 could have been at any given minute, is much smaller and less elastic than assumed. Watching the cajoling, lobbying and ham handed manipulation is oddly entertaining.

Here’s another perspective on …… perspective: http://www.prisonpolicy.org/zones/thousand_feet.html You can see just how nature gave us just enough vision to see things we want to eat or mate with, while avoiding things that want to eat us or do the other thing to us. Being ground pounding animals most of the time, having the vision of a hawk without being free of obstacles, would be a handicap. Try walking around the house with a pair of binoculars and see how you do. Not that I typically walk around my house peering through those things. Unless I’m Captain Ahab in search of a great white whale….. thar she bl …. Ummm… like I said, I don’t do that anyway. I thought this may be of use for those interested in top-down research for a change. This is where you stop digging once you hit a ‘no go’ condition. If someone says they observed Cooper from eight miles away; you can stop there. No need for their address, favorite color, who they like for the Super Bowl and any of the other stuff Cooper investigators give such high value. The same would be true for any other condition which typically defies the laws of physics for the universal reason that it is pure bullshit.

This will be a giant yawn to those who prefer to hammer out their realities by saying they have super secret or privileged information or think driving aimlessly in the field is somehow virtuous or of greater value. Nope, all ya need is a computer and internet access and you can follow along, share a few tears and who knows, maybe learn something along the way. For this exercise I have selected a city absolutely free of any bias or braggadocio which is so favored by many on this thread. No need to live there or own property or any of the other BS which has been smeared across the screens via this thread. Of course I’m talking about Fresno, California. Take a look below: http://www.airnav.com/airport/KFAT This website is all about airports which are cool places you don’t even know. But I do because I’m so cool and strong. But Fresno is going to be a yardstick for this demonstration on distance and visual resolution. If you scroll down to runway information for 11L/29R you will see the dimensions listed as 9227 x 150 ft. Wow, that runway is just about as long as 305 was high in the air, that gives me boners. You see, airports are the ultimate level playing field because they are….. umm…. level by design. So looking down the runway of Fresno would be similar to looking down a wicked long yardstick to 305 flying directly overhead. See the numbers? 36.786776,-119.735216 Copy and paste them into Google maps. I said copy and paste. Now grab the street view dude and drop his electronic ass on the pip and orient yourself to look right down Fresno’s runway like you know what the hell you’re doing. Can you see it? I’ve added some graphics to help with orientation, distance and perspective. Can you see anything at the other end of the runway? That’s around 10,000 feet. OK, that’s not fair and makes you sad so let’s focus on something else. If you scan to the right you may notice a large structure which it the tallest on the horizon. That’s Fresno’s control tower which is about 6,200 feet from the same location. Go ahead and zoom in on that thing and see how many people are in the tower. Can you see them? This is less than two thirds the distance 305 was away from Janet and it is day time. Any luck? OK, I’m still being all mean and un-nice so let’s try some place closer. Here’s some more numbers: 36.772537,-119.726901 Copy and paste that and spin round on baby right round till you see that tower again. Go ahead and zoom too. Can you see people? Imagine seeing any? Could you see them wave or do jumping jacks? This is a measly 1,500 feet away. Could you see a ladder or stairs or a billboard if it was on the tower? Now I could have cheated and just made up those measurements to feel like a big man on campus, but I slacked and used free software again: http://www.daftlogic.com/projects-google-maps-distance-calculator.htm Here’s a tool where you just stick pins in things whose distance from each other you covet. Pick miles or feet or whatever makes your day more pleasant and productive. You don’t need years and years of overspecialized training to use these marvels and it completely relieves one of having to depend on another’s word or wait for some magical report from someone who wants to talk in riddles and just make you think. So there’s a cheap, fast and relatively accurate test of distance and expected visual acuity.