Zenister

this bears repeating.. just incase any of the lurking observers missed.... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

they arent even eligible according to the Rules nor are they on the Real List ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

its very simple really.. she had substandard instruction because she didnt follow a standardized program taught by an 'impartial' instructor.. he is very lucky... he could have to live with the fact he was directly responsible for her death... canopy checks, correcting spins and dealing with a possible toggle fire (and other 'common' malfunctions) are all part of the standardized program. If she had attended one instead of relying on her boyfriend she would have known what to do... particularly since it was not her first jump... its a perfect of example of what can happen when you attempt shortcuts in training your life will depend on.. [edit for clarity] ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

mediocre??? you are giving it far to much credit.. that movie blows goats and the producers should be given daily wedgies for abusing Heinlen's name and novel... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

you'll find that doing that, being honest, and calling shit shit, will find you with few friends.... perhaps..but the friends you do have with be those who you'd trust with your life, and they you with theirs.. "never be in the company of those with whom you would not wish to die" the statement is archaic and convoluted, but i would rather have a handful of true friends than a country full of faithless, honorless backstabbers and cheats who only pretend while it is useful to them.... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

not at all.. there are first causes for Everything.. but saying "God did it." isnt an answer, it is a belief and one that has ZERO evidence to support it. my approach requires no faith at all. Merely observation, analysis and an open mind ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

fwd Oprah a link to this discussion, have everyone you know write her a letter/email etc. With the intention of making Oprah aware exactly how this story is being spun and how her show will be used to spread half-truths and miss information in a shameless plea for attention.. Oprah has web boards as well that discuss her show and its content.. join them and add your .02 (eyewitness account and factual information) to set the record straight... make the 'back story' as big a deal as the inital news cast and it will be hard for her to continue to misrepresent herself to national media... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

once again proving you need to do ALOT more research on the subject of Religion.... Zen... You're such an intellectual giant. Your enlightenment brightens the sky for all of us. I'm in awe of your complete understanding of everything while the rest of us continue to crawl around in darkness. the difference between you and i is, i still SEEK to understand everything.. where as you believe your religion has given you all the answers you will ever need ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

not working for 3 weeks straight.. jumping on weekdays... staying in bed with the GF till late in the afternoon.. playing in the tunnel with a few people for their 'beer' time... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

....and a lot of people cannot count. Shark…leave it to and Elsinore guy to hit the nail on the head. That's the problem with timing separation is people can’t count reliably especially newer jumpers who are excited in the door. The problem is magnified the longer the count is. I don’t trust a guy with 50 jumps to count to 10 and give me an honest 10 seconds. He’s perception of 10 seconds is probably more like 5. which is why there are a number of ways to 'personally enforce' a proper count, the most obvious being the one most people learned as kids.. 1 mississippi 2 mississippi, 1 one thousand, 2 one thousand etc... i prefer the 'hand method' (move your hand at the elbow thru its full range of motion for each count) neither are perfect ie exactly 1 second, however both make it very obvious to the counter that they when/if they are rushing the count.. even a new adrenaline soaked jumper will have a more accurate count if taught either from the start... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

The law in Arizona is pretty clear and even if it weren't it still is a privetly owned business. Sometimes one person's fun is another's death warrant. Zen...you know I love ya

i'll send an S.O.S. to the world... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

since you are only half right are you only moving half way? ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

i've been i love with Maureen since i started puberty.. i'm quiet sure it has alot to do with my facination with redheads..... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

well i can 'instruct' anyone on nearly anything if have a good grasp of the basics, (its part of my job) but it pales in comparison to the real expertise available at eloy everyday... so no, i wouldnt call myself a 'skydiving coach'... hell i've still got a A and according to the USPA that means i'm a noob... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

i'll jump with and film you, but i'm not anywhere near qualified to coach... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

very true.. however they may also be interpreting the law entirely to strictly.. particularly in reference to the kind of nudity generally seen in such videos... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

Certain places, ie. DZ bars and so on, will not play those vids due to underage (why are they in the bar in the first place) or older stuckup folks in the bar... everyday it seems there are more people who want to object to another's idea of Fun and Entertainment... a sad state of affairs in the "land of the free" a very nice video Ben (slow slow connection out here) keep it up and continue to make the videos that make YOU happy... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

because you are clearly missing a great deal of the genre...hell "Barbed Wire" shouldnt even make the list at all... there is no 'right side of the bed' out here ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

then why bother to post the BEST EVER!! poll at all?? ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

your list is so incomplete it is laughable... my vote goes to Claudia Black... if you dont know who she is you are not a Sci-Fi fan... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

tell them to blow you.. it is YOUR video.. if they want a PG version they can make their own... censorship ALWAYS sucks... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

once again proving you need to do ALOT more research on the subject of Religion.... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

i am soo going to get my ass kicked... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

see i keep telling people i'm easily forgetable..and sometimes in need of a quick smack to the back of the head.... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.