Zenister

how about Mr. Left? ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

would that at least one woman i know felt the same...somehow 'challenge' always came across as "your not good enough" and that simply wasnt true...i just wished she would have tried.... wasted potential always pisses me off.... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

LOL no worries there...I'm old enough to be his Auntie i know some really hot aunts.... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

soooo many apologies!! i didnt realize the thread police were in full effect... sorry but this is talkback...when you post here you throw your thoughts to the mob...you may start the thread but the direction it takes from there totally up to the forum after that... this is not intended to offend in anyway, but there is no reason to stifle anyone elses social interaction just because you wanted a 'serious' thread, it seem that most posters were enjoying themselves... ....there is no need to take thread drift so personally perhaps you should petition his forkness for a 'serious' social forum..it might be of use for more 'esthetic' discussions than the open bar that talkback is... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

you really dont want to know (well if you do i'd be happy to demonstrate when you have several hours to kill) the ways i've put spare climbing gear and sailing tackle to use.... sometimes you dont even need the knots, tension lines hold rather nicely when properly strung ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

all of you are psycho...its just a matter of degree....less than 6 is pretty good. a 4 is simply divine and likely already taken... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

Someone needs a spanking...... everyone needs a spanking.....

i've been travelling with my rig nonstop for the past month, I always carry it on. American West & Contintal...other than getting flagged becasue my tickets have often been last min it hasnt been an issue at all..sometimes they stop and give it the swab other times they dont even blink...I'd put it in a gear bag though, because you might end up spooking a wuffo or two and that can cause more trouble than its worth... ps.. quade posted a picture of wraping your chest strap thru your reserve handle (if you dont have a pad) and i can personally attest that to a wuffo that shiny handle looks like a really good place to pick a rig up off the table...fortunately the guy that did it (i couldnt go over to where the scanner was as i was being wanded put his hand thru the handle and lifted it by the webbing even with the strap routed thru it.... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

good tips.. My favorite rope is a red one.. belts work too and no knots to worry about .. can actually be buckled nice and tight around the wrists. The ropes work better for the ankles though what with tying to the bedposts and all. cant really get enough tension for proper suspension with belts, they are however lovely for general restraint.. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

not really you can nearly almost tell after the first knot... Say what?! come a little closer, i'll illustrate... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

not really you can nearly almost tell after the first knot... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

they mean different things... like nice and Nioce! use which ever is appropriate ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

interesting...you know the greeks had gods with human emotions too.. and by your own religious texts your god is psychotic... not anything i'd wish to worship...and i thought your savior was 'perfect'? ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

and These are both from the old testament... but I'll bite. I don't deny the flood, and the reasons for it are well explained. He also apparently destroyed the the sodomites of Sodom and Gamora with fire and Brimestone raining from the sky. There is however a large difference between the God of the old testament and the God of the New. The God of the old testament was a vengeful one (An eye for an eye), he saw that he his people failed to obey his will and destroyed them. That was the flow of the operating system he had in place. The God of the new testament is a forgiving one. He realises that we are incapable of perfection and provided we make efforts to right our wrongs, he is happy. There is a new setup, a new operating system. We all know that when you intall a new operating system, you will need to reboot correct? How humanity got tossed out of the garden may very well be a myth, but like many other myths, is told for a reason and holds very real lessons/morals. God gave us free will. It is not enough to love your neighboor if all there is is love. So, he created Love, he created Hate and most importantly, he created FREE WILL. We say unto the Lord "Thy will be done.", but do you not see that this has no meaning if we did not have a will of our own? One that may contradict his at times? ah so you have two gods now?? and he has human emotions? and he changes his mind?? so much for the O & O... btw character analysis indicates you actually have closer to 6 'gods' all with distinct personality conflicts..happens when you have a text written by multiple authors and repeatedly edited...but i guess you'll still say its the divine word of god and can not be flawed?? hmmm perhaps the word of man is more obvious...he does after all create gods in his own image... the paradox is that your god cant be omnipotent, omniscient and the prime mover behind all creation IF man (and satan) has free will. And of course if man and satan are following the plan of your god (as created and foreseen) how do you define evil? Does not everything in creation follow the will of your lord? ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

Hmmm. A lot has transpired since I left this thread last eve... I'm surprised that nobody has provided this in my abscence. Matthew 13: 24-42 Jesus presented another parable to them saying "The Kingdom of heaven may be compared to a man who sowed good seed in his field. But while his mean were sleeping, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went away. But when the wheat sprouted and bore grain, then the tares became evident also. The slaves of the landowner came and said to him 'Sir did you not sow good seed in your in your field? How then does it have tares?' And he said to them 'An enemy has done this!' The slaves said to him 'Do you want us, then to go and gather them up?' But he said, 'No; for while you are gathering up the tares, you may uproot the wheat with them. Allow both to grow together until the harvest; and in the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers, "First gather up the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them up; but gather the weat into my barn.'" care to point to the passages in OT that support Jesus argument? now compare God's actions in the OT with this statement? i guess killing them in the all in the flood doesnt count?? i love christian contradictions...they are soo much fun.. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

they are dying because no one wants to pay the extra $6-10 per disk for the window dressing of the store..It makes no sense that you can order a disk delivered direct to your door for 10.99 but must pay 18.99 for the same disk at Sam Goody.. internet 'piracy' has little to do with why music stores are dying, its the artificially inflated prices the recording industry pushes...and the fact that most of modern 'manufactured' mass produced bands really suck. yes. It is stealing, however its also civil disobedience as a direct result of the gross inflation in music industry while actual production (both the physical reproduction and the original recording and creation) costs continue to go down!! ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

Morphine A Good Woman Is Hard To Find M. Sandman She painted a bull's eye on my mind. No matter how I moved her aim was never high. I guess that was what I needed at the time. A good woman is hard to find. A good woman is hard to find. A good woman is hard to find. A good woman is hard to find. She was heavy, on the back beat. She played me just like a tambourine. Well, she took me to church, prayed till it hurt. A good woman is hard to find. A good woman is hard to find. I'll live to love another one more time. A good woman is hard to find. She was a helluva woman, from a helluva town. She took me all the way, it was a long way down. She makes me wonder, wonder, all day long. Can a good woman, ever be found? Can a good woman, never be found? She was beauty and adventure. She seemed so glad to be alive. I want to be happy, but not all the time. A good woman is hard to find. A good woman is hard to find. I'll live to love another one more time. A good woman is hard to find. She wrapped me up. Saved me for later. There was no way to penetrate her. Guess that was what I needed at the time. A good woman is hard to find. A good woman is hard to find. I'll live to love another one more time. A good woman is hard to find. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

rotflmao... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

You just quoted one of the few places where the word of MAN hasnt corrupted the word of God...now if you can just get past the "this way and no other" you'll start to see that there are far more paths to God than the mythos of a single culture. No matter what the MEN who recorded their experience of divinity thru that literary means might claim. Don’t believe me? Why don’t you try asking God yourself instead of asking Man. She isn’t hiding, his voice is on the wind, written in the sand and felt on the waves. You just have to still your mind and listen. the rest of your post illustrates exactly why i (and any other non-christian faithfully following their path) am not a Sinner. i have never been separated from God, I never will be, God would not take that joy from me ever. No matter what christian dogma claims. I need no blood sacrifice to be 'righteous', i always have been. I was born that way (and so were you), you may need the guilt and redemption rituals to feel 'cleansed' of your failings, but that is a HUMAN need/custom, not something God requires, All God asks of you is faith in her and in yourself. I may stray from my particular path from time to time, this however does not separate me from God, and it never will. He knows my failings, he doesn’t hold them against me. She does expect me to overcome them. I am and have always been a child of God. of course since you have trouble with the words of man in his attempt to define God by a single cultural idea, you'll likely have more trouble accepting ie. "getting your head around", the idea that there is more to God and your relationship to him than the christian mythos claims.. break your vessel. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

Nioce! Congratulations! ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

i've got to get something to eat...i would however, like to thank everyone for keeping things reasonably civil given the passonate nature of this discussion oo thats a baaaadd pun but... i would also like to suggest a book to everyone, it makes no claims of truth, but it might help to clarify many things... Life of Pi by Yann Martel ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

fortunately i dont care how i 'strike' you..i dont claim to be an expert, but i imagine i can discuss the majortity of world religions far more intelligently than you based on your responses so far in this thread ps. the same consideration applies to your faith as well, it is the fundamental nature of faith.. its perfectly possible you've been 'wasting' quite a number of sundays ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

perhaps the next question is is Yahweh omnipotent and omniscient? if so how could Satan make any choice other than the one he was created to make?? [I] btw using the proper names since we are discussing them in the context of their mythos. God is larger than anyone’s mythos[/I] ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

this is a deap subject that can go so deap that it will make your head hurt. been there done that many many times and i always enjoy an exercise in the 'fortunate fall' aka freewill vs. predestination and several other key issues of faith. its a great discussion with many opportunities to evaluate and question your assumptions and beliefs, where the answers you find lead you i cannot say, but i'd be happy to have it again.. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

actually it shows his ignorance. he's gettting his religions completely confused, but then i generally expect from most american christians who get all their answers from a nice little book, and the platitudes their church gives them...no individual thought or effort required.. have fun guys i'm done when you've spent as some time actually looking for answers to the really important questions and can talk intelligently about all the world's religions and the various experiences of divinity in each without resorting to ignorant misconceptions and tired cliché’s, I'll be happy to have a nice conversation with you about them and your interpretation of each... until then enjoy your faith, safe and ignorant of all you do not know. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.